Player Discussion Alex DeBrincat

[Daffy]

Contract negotiations holding up DeBrincat coming to Detroit

woodwardsports.com

What a horribly written article lol

 

[Bileur]

Thank goodness Avs didn't get Jack Hughes. Falling to 5th was a blessing in disguise. But I seriously wish we won the 2018 lottery.

Honestly I’d settle for just taking K’Andre Miller instead of JBD and Tychonik

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

This must be your first time at HFSens We never expect good things here

You think Sens fans have it rough

 

[SensFactor]

I'd love to get Debrincat if possible traded anywhere but Detroit. Wings nation is delusional, overvaluing many of their prospects.

 

[Daffy]

I really feel like we have an agreement with Tarasenko. But we need to get this trade done soon or we'll miss the boat.

 

[2CHAINZ]

I'd love to get Debrincat if possible traded anywhere but Detroit. Wings nation is delusional, overvaluing many of their prospects.

This is literally every single fan base.

 

[SensFactor]

This is literally every single fan base.

I find its at the top end of delusional for Wings fans though. I mean, there are proposals for B level prospects being made in the trade that Wings fans think are McDavid.

 

[Nova Stutzlia]

I find its at the top end of delusional for Wings fans though. I mean, there are proposals for B level prospects being made in the trade that Wings fans think are McDavid.

Last year some Habs fans thought Slafkovsky would be the new Jagr.

 

[Speatleysson]

Last year some Habs fans thought Slafkovsky would be the new Jagr.

Pathetic comparison, but not surprising coming from that fan base.

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Contract negotiations holding up DeBrincat coming to Detroit

woodwardsports.com

If this is true, it's hard to blame Yzerman. I would be nervous handing this guy 8x8 too, he was underwhelming last year for that kind of money and term. And considering he's literally picked their city already as his main preferred destination, it seems like they can play hardball with him.

 

[Sens9292]

Yz

The pressure has always been on the Ottawa side

Not sure why some people here think otherwise

If the price is too much Yzerman is not going to negotiate against himself

Yzerman is starting to feel some heat in Detroit. A lot of questionable free agent signings. Redwing fans are wanting to see a quicker improvement and now there’s a 40 goal hometown kid who publicly wants to come there. Yzerman is feeling the pressure to bring him home

 

[SENStastic]

Yz

Yzerman is starting to feel some heat in Detroit. A lot of questionable free agent signings. Redwing fans are wanting to see a quicker improvement and now there’s a 40 goal hometown kid who publicly wants to come there. Yzerman is feeling the pressure to bring him home

The heat he's feeling still seems closer to a whimper than anything else. The cultish devotion to the Yzerplan is still strong af despite showing some cracks this summer. To most Wings fans it seems he can do no wrong and is beyond reproach, his genius is above regular plebs comprehension and understanding, you just need to have complete faith in everything he does and all will be well lol. So don't think he's in that much hot water yet, still got plenty of good will to blow for at least another 2 years I'd say.

 

[SlapJack]

I'd love to get Debrincat if possible traded anywhere but Detroit. Wings nation is delusional, overvaluing many of their prospects.

Who cares what wings fans think of their prospects, Pierre Dorion is negotiating with Steve Yzerman. Some of the Sens fans takes are just as delusional.

And neither GM is sitting there right now sweating buckets because Detroit NEEDS DeBrincat or Ottawa is under SO much pressure to get rid of him. Something will get done and there are probably agreements in place wherever with a contingency on DeBrincat's contract.

If Pierre didn't get a good return, he'll take shit for it, he's going to take shit regardless because fans are never universally happy. But I don't really care personally, he took a risk and DeBrincat decided not to want to stay. Oh well, shit happens

 

[2CHAINZ]

I find its at the top end of delusional for Wings fans though. I mean, there are proposals for B level prospects being made in the trade that Wings fans think are McDavid.

Bro, every time there is a trade situation like this one, every fanbase has fans out to lunch on both sides, as is the case with this situation.

 

[RedWingzz]

I'd love to get Debrincat if possible traded anywhere but Detroit. Wings nation is delusional, overvaluing many of their prospects.

I'm curious, which prospects are you talking about? (not trying to start a fight here lol, I'm just genuinely curious if the prospects are being over-valued, or maybe you just aren't familiar with the player...?)

 

[lomekian]

Sens also fell from 1 to 4 in draft twice and 2 to 5th once

Indeed. One of the multitude of reasons I am sympathetic!

 

[SensFactor]

I'm curious, which prospects are you talking about? (not trying to start a fight here lol, I'm just genuinely curious if the prospects are being over-valued, or maybe you just aren't familiar with the player...?)

Wrong forum

 

[lomekian]

I see this narrative often but I don’t think dorion is under a lot of pressure. I think he either gets the year with new ownership or doesn’t. I doubt he’s judged solely on cat. It’ll be the entire year.

I think Stevie is under more pressure. There isn’t a premiere player on that roster right now. And that cap space is good but lest we forget they will be eating into a fair portion of it for their young studs. Moritz, Raymond, Edvinson, berggren, soderblom, all these guys are untouchable will cost more.

And he hasn’t exactly won over the world with his signings. Holl, a healthy scratch at times, for 3 years. Chairot. Copp. His goalies are who? Why did he buyout Yamamoto?

So I think he’s gotta make a move. Hometown boy. Does Stevie want another year of this type of return? I bet he wants to have a good year. Who knows what happens next summer.

If I’m Pierre I’m taking a good deal from detroit or shit deal from anyone else.

Yzerman is under no pressure. Individual moves get questioned, but he's still a hero to fans and the organisation, and has still got more right than wrong as Red Wings GM. Pierre is trying to still have a job in a few months. He's under immense pressure to try to not make the trade for DBC last year look like a disaster, surely?

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

Yzerman is under no pressure. Individual moves get questioned, but he's still a hero to fans and the organisation, and has still got more right than wrong as Red Wings GM. Pierre is trying to still have a job in a few months. He's under immense pressure to try to not make the trade for DBC last year look like a disaster, surely?

And not to have to dump at least 1 roster player to get under the cap to keep DeBrincat (Arb award or 9m). And to not have to face a lesser return if his only option is to move him as a rental. Not sure how its not pressure on Dorion. Yzerman has the cap space to go sign Tarasenko to a shorter term deal and get a goal scorer. There certainly would be value in getting a younger DeBrincat at the right number but that takes the DeBrincat camp to take less than currently advertised. Dorion can't add anyone until he moves DeBrincat

 

[RedWingzz]

Wrong forum

Wrong forum..? Because I'm a Wings fan you're not gonna answer my question lol....

I'm a Sens season ticket holder, will you answer my question knowing this, or still nah lol

 

[2CHAINZ]

Wrong forum

Answer his question. I am also curious what these over the top wings fans have said to anger you so much.

 

[Hale The Villain]

Wings fans have largely come around on DeBrincat being a no brainer, besides the odd idiot who still thinks he's just going to walk himself to Detroit in a year and so they shouldn't give up anything for him.

Feel like most of that has to do with Yzerman making some questionable signings and putting the Wings in no-man's land right now - not bad enough to tank for a high pick but probably not good enough to make the playoffs. DeBrincat is a big need now to put them in a position to compete for a spot.

 

[bicboi64]

I'd love to get Debrincat if possible traded anywhere but Detroit. Wings nation is delusional, overvaluing many of their prospects.

Not enough of their prospects aside from Raymond and Seider have broken out. Overvaluing is all they can do lol

 

[Boud]

Delete

 

[SensFactor]

Answer his question. I am also curious what these over the top wings fans have said to anger you so much.

Who's angry? I said some Red Wings fans are over the top with the valuing of their prospects. You can see many of these posts in the general trade thread on HF. For example, there was one proposed trade that had Berggren, Kubalik(UFA) and 2nd for Debrincat that was thrown out immediately.