Player Discussion Alex DeBrincat

[Gil Gunderson]

We're not getting Tarasenko.

At this point we likely start the season with Debrincat and non-existent depth. An injury away from missing the playoffs.

There’s a 2% chance of that happening.

 

[BondraTime]

DBC will be traded, it will just be a rental.
Let all teams know, adjust their offers, best offer gets him without discussing any contracts.

Already chincy offers will get even greasier, but it is why it is.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

He concerning thing is neither NYI or ANA can give us a good hockey deal

Compared to what though? An ok deal may need to be taken to get this done

 

[Gil Gunderson]

Nashville has the cap space but Lindholm would probably be a smarter target.

 

[Sun God Nika]

'That's the GM's job': Alex DeBrincat's camp responds to being blamed for lack of trade

DeBrincat’s agent told The Athletic the report of their camp’s contract demands holding up a trade is “entirely false and without merit.”

theathletic.com

looks like Jeff Jackson is firing back.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

'That's the GM's job': Alex DeBrincat's camp responds to being blamed for lack of trade

DeBrincat’s agent told The Athletic the report of their camp’s contract demands holding up a trade is “entirely false and without merit.”

theathletic.com

looks like Jeff Jackson is firing back.

Except Bruce/Dorion are not the only ones saying that a comtract is holding it up. Dreger said it today.

The GM’s job is to do what’s best for his team, not the agent or player.

 

[Sens Vader]

Compared to what though? An ok deal may need to be taken to get this done

I am thinking there is two trains of thought; a futures based deal where you have cap space to pursue a free agent, or a hockey deal.

As all free agents are taken, the only way we fix our middle 6 is via a hockey trade. Neither team really has good pieces for that

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

I am thinking there is two trains of thought; a futures based deal where you have cap space to pursue a free agent, or a hockey deal.

As all free agents are taken, the only way we fix our middle 6 is via a hockey trade. Neither team really has good pieces for that

I understood .. Sens may have to make the most of what they can get is what I was saying. Its not a winnable trade.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Except Bruce/Dorion are not the only ones saying that a comtract is holding it up. Dreger said it today.

The GM’s job is to do what’s best for his team, not the agent or player.

That is true. The agents job is to do what is best for the player. In this situation what is best for Debrincat is to make it to FA in a larger cap world where he has complete control of his destination while collecting 8M+ in salary this year.

Sadly that doesn't make sense for Ottawa.

Where this went wrong was Dorion feeling heat and giving Bruce negative tidbits of Debrincat's camp. The "not negotiating through the media" standard is gone and it makes everyone look bad.

Honestly Dorion just collect the L. Give him to the wings for whatever and utilize your cap space to round out the team.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

That is true. The agents job is to do what is best for the player. In this situation what is best for Debrincat is to make it to FA in a larger cap world where he has complete control of his destination while collecting 8M+ in salary this year.

Sadly that doesn't make sense for Ottawa.

Where this went wrong was Dorion feeling heat and giving Bruce negative tidbits of Debrincat's camp. The "not negotiating through the media" standard is gone and it makes everyone look bad.

Could be the final straw

 

[Sens Vader]

'That's the GM's job': Alex DeBrincat's camp responds to being blamed for lack of trade

DeBrincat’s agent told The Athletic the report of their camp’s contract demands holding up a trade is “entirely false and without merit.”

theathletic.com

looks like Jeff Jackson is firing back.

I dont have an athletic sub, any notable bits of info?

Sounds like Jeff is saying he hasn’t engaged in contract talks which is different than what Dorion said in his presser

 

[Sun God Nika]

I dont have an athletic sub, any notable bits of info?

Sounds like Jeff is saying he hasn’t engaged in contract talks which is different than what Dorion said in his presser

My friend just sent it to me working on it now.

tidbits from the article.

- The post media article suggesting Debrincat and Agent holding up a trade due to contract demands is entirely false and without merit as per Jeff Jackson.

- Per Jeff Jackson, The senators have not reached a trade agreement to the point where Jackson has been able to discuss a contract with a team.

The rest of it is Ian Reporting on what is already out there and the different scenarios of how this can play out with a bunch of Dorion quotes.

 

[Ouroboros]

What do we make of this?

Dorion straight up said he's given Jackson permission to speak with other teams.

Other media members seem to corroborate it. Dreger and Garrioch have both suggested that the hold up is the contract demands from the DeBrincat camp. Friedman has also said that Jackson has been given permission to speak with other teams.

Not much else the agent can say, I guess. He's never going to say that teams just don't value his client the way he thought they would.

 

[Gil Gunderson]

That is true. The agents job is to do what is best for the player. In this situation what is best for Debrincat is to make it to FA in a larger cap world where he has complete control of his destination while collecting 8M+ in salary this year.

Sadly that doesn't make sense for Ottawa.

Where this went wrong was Dorion feeling heat and giving Bruce negative tidbits of Debrincat's camp. The "not negotiating through the media" standard is gone and it makes everyone look bad.

Honestly Dorion just collect the L. Give him to the wings for whatever and utilize your cap space to round out the team.

Who cares about the media shit? Debrincat is an RFA and doesnmt have a co teact, of course the acquiring team wants to know what he’s about. The agent has just as much of a role in facilitating a trade here, instead he’s making a shocked Pikachu face.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Steve Warne Public Article just dropped

https://thehockeynews.com/nhl/ottawa-senators/features/analysis-how-will-the-alex-debrincat-conundrum-play-out

He is connected with Debrincat's camp as well.

DeBrincat’s agents have decided that, with unrestricted free agency just one year away, they should hold off on signing long term. While it’s true and fair to say that DeBrincat doesn’t want to sign long-term in Ottawa, a better way to put it would be: DeBrincat’s people don’t want to sign long-term anywhere right now – not unless a team really makes it worth their while to skip unrestricted free agency next summer.

 

[Senscore]

I'm sure Michael Andlauer is thrilled we're getting at least one more very public shit show in under the wire before he takes over.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Who cares about the media shit? Debrincat is an RFA and doesnmt have a co teact, of course the acquiring team wants to know what he’s about. The agent has just as much of a role in facilitating a trade here, instead he’s making a shocked Pikachu face.

It really sounds like the agent has made it clear.

Something along the lines of. "We just wanna ride the QO to Free agency my guy when the cap jumps we can make a lot more than what you and these other guys are offering right now. If someone wants to offer us an overpayment now we will do it."

 

[Inspiration]

Except Bruce/Dorion are not the only ones saying that a comtract is holding it up. Dreger said it today.

Where do you think Dreger is getting it? It's not too difficult to figure out who might benefit from leaking that info to pin the blame on DeBrincat.

There's a lot of weasel words in Jackson's statement, too. "As far as I have been advised" there is no trade "agreement". Also he hasn't entered into an "actual negotiation" (likely an intentionally ambiguous term).

 

[Sun God Nika]

Dorion: Debrincat if we pay you 8 the way the roster is constructed we won't be able to fill it without trading away another player. We also traded a lot to acquire you and it doesn't make sense that you would only play 2 seasons for us.

Debrincat:

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Dorion: Debrincat if we pay you 8 the way the roster is constructed we won't be able to fill it without trading away another player. We also traded a lot to acquire you and it doesn't make sense that you would only play 2 seasons for us.

Debrincat: View attachment 725952

Better hope DeBrincat doesn't have an Uncle Ben parked out front CTC...

 

[Sun God Nika]

Better hope DeBrincat doesn't have an Uncle Ben parked out front CTC...

lol never wish a canon event on anyone.

 

[Bjornar Moxnes]

Better hope DeBrincat doesn't have an Uncle Ben parked out front CTC...

Catman time?

 

[AchtzehnBaby]

Except Bruce/Dorion are not the only ones saying that a comtract is holding it up. Dreger said it today.

The GM’s job is to do what’s best for his team, not the agent or player.

Nah

 

[BonHoonLayneCornell]

Catman time?

He can have the job if he's prepared to wear the Michelle Pheifer Catwoman suit.

 

[L'Aveuglette]

- The post media article suggesting Debrincat and Agent holding up a trade due to contract demands is entirely false and without merit as per Jeff Jackson.

- Per Jeff Jackson, The senators have not reached a trade agreement to the point where Jackson has been able to discuss a contract with a team.

The rest of it is Ian Reporting on what is already out there and the different scenarios of how this can play out with a bunch of Dorion quotes.

If this is true that is some major, major lying on the part of Dorion/Garrioch.