Player Discussion Alex DeBrincat

[Masterplan]

Heck, you sign him to his QO and eat 50% and ship him to anywhere at this point provide the return is a positive. The money is gone next year.

 

[Beech]

If they are low-balling, you simply sign him to 15% off his QO and ship him to the highest bidder during the trade deadline.
If a guy like Jeannot can fetch as much as he did, Debrincat should be acquiring as much if not more from some other lunatic GM.

Adele,

can you explain the 15% off of his QO.

 

[Wondercarrot]

Heck, you sign him to his QO and eat 50% and ship him to anywhere at this point provide the return is a positive. The money is gone next year.

Exactly.
If we don’t get we want then keep him, I’d rather take him to arb and get him down to 8 and see how the year goes with a view of eating half his salary at the deadline and auction off a 40 goal scorer with a cap hit of under a million bucks.

 

[JackieDaytona]

Adele,

can you explain the 15% off of his QO.

Not Adele but

Team Elected Arbitration

Teams can take players to arbitration, to a maximum of 2 Team Elections per year.

If a player made $2.23M or more in the last season, the Arbitration award must be 85% of their previous season pay or more. If the team elects arbitration, the player can still sign an offer sheet with another team prior to July 5 at 5pm, which would negate the team elected arbitration. The Team must elect the arbitration by 5pm on the later of June 15 or 48 hours after the Stanley Cup Finals ends.

If a player received a Qualifying Offer but did not accept it, the team must offer an amount equal to or more than their pay in the previous season. The Team election window is from July 5 and 5pm to July 6 at 5pm.

A player can only receive 1 Team Elected arbitration in their career, regardless of if the case was settled prior to the actual arbitration award.

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Restricted Free Agents agents are eligible for Arbitration if the following qualifications are met (only Restricted Free Agents can go to arbitration): For players 20 years of age or older, Professional experience is defined as any professional league (AHL, ECHL, European Pro League, etc.)...

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I didn’t know about the offer sheet I thought QO nullified that? Is this source correct on that?

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Adele,

can you explain the 15% off of his QO.

Arbitration will surely rule in favor of the Senators and allow them to sign him for 1 year at 7.65M

 

[JungleBeat]

He needs to be crunched next time he’s at the CTC if the rumours are true about him not wanting to sign.

 

[Adele Dazeem]

Not Adele but

Team Elected Arbitration

Teams can take players to arbitration, to a maximum of 2 Team Elections per year.

If a player made $2.23M or more in the last season, the Arbitration award must be 85% of their previous season pay or more. If the team elects arbitration, the player can still sign an offer sheet with another team prior to July 5 at 5pm, which would negate the team elected arbitration. The Team must elect the arbitration by 5pm on the later of June 15 or 48 hours after the Stanley Cup Finals ends.

If a player received a Qualifying Offer but did not accept it, the team must offer an amount equal to or more than their pay in the previous season. The Team election window is from July 5 and 5pm to July 6 at 5pm.

A player can only receive 1 Team Elected arbitration in their career, regardless of if the case was settled prior to the actual arbitration award.

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Restricted Free Agents agents are eligible for Arbitration if the following qualifications are met (only Restricted Free Agents can go to arbitration): For players 20 years of age or older, Professional experience is defined as any professional league (AHL, ECHL, European Pro League, etc.)...

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I didn’t know about the offer sheet I thought QO nullified that? Is this source correct on that?

Offer sheet is out of the question anyway. It would be of benefit to the Senators.
It's either Scenario A or B:
A- Team X offers a good deal for a signed Debrincat
B- We take him to arb where he will have to sign one year at 15% off his QO, at which point we dump him at the deadline for a premium. There will be a bidding war for a "40-goal" scorer with no trade restrictions.

 

[Sun God Nika]

Heck, you sign him to his QO and eat 50% and ship him to anywhere at this point provide the return is a positive. The money is gone next year.

Only way I am content with this is if its at the deadline after Debrincat has played like 50 games for the team. Going into the season with 4.5M in dead cap will be brutal.

 

[Tap on the Ankle]

The list is apparently Dallas, Nashville, Florida, Vegas, and Detroit

 

[Beech]

If a player made $2.23M or more in the last season, the Arbitration award must be 85% of their previous season pay or more. If the team elects arbitration, the player can still sign an offer sheet with another team prior to July 5 at 5pm, which would negate the team elected arbitration. The Team must elect the arbitration by 5pm on the later of June 15 or 48 hours after the Stanley Cup Finals ends.

I didn’t know about the offer sheet I thought QO nullified that? Is this source correct on that?

Arbitration will surely rule in favor of the Senators and allow them to sign him for 1 year at 7.65M

was this date missed? If so, they blew a real smart move!

 

[UglyPuckling]

The list is apparently Dallas, Nashville, Florida, Vegas, and Detroit

That list seems rather restrictive. It makes me think that maybe Debrincat wants his $9 m QO year and then hit Free Agency next year (2024-25), and/or he's pushing hard for Detroit. He'll have more options and suitors then, and the cap should get a pretty decent increase then as well. Those factors would be good for Debrincat. Is Debrincat's wife from the Detroit area?

 

[DJB]

That list seems rather restrictive. It makes me think that maybe Debrincat wants his $9 m QO year and then hit Free Agency next year (2024-25), and/or he's pushing hard for Detroit. He'll have more options and suitors then, and the cap should get a pretty decent increase then as well. Those factors would be good for Debrincat. Is Debrincat's wife from the Detroit area?

No idea about the wife but everything else you wrote is very likely

 

[Icelevel]

Also his agent advising him wants lots o MONEY

 

[Boud]

The list is apparently Dallas, Nashville, Florida, Vegas, and Detroit

This was leaked at least a week ago by Friedman.

 

[NyQuil]

The list is apparently Dallas, Nashville, Florida, Vegas, and Detroit

The list "includes" those teams.

 

[UglyPuckling]

The list "includes" those teams.

Ya, hard to say what the entire list looks like. Doesn't seem to be a whole lot of info from insiders so far.

 

[DueDiligence]

Talk from Wings fans is they want to offer Zadina and #17 in the draft for DBC.

 

[SpezDispenser]

Talk from Wings fans is they want to offer Zadina and #17 in the draft for DBC.

I hope Dorion tells them to stick zadina up their arse

 

[Agent Zuuuub]

can't believe Yzerman passed on Hughes for Zadina.

goes to show even the best can royally f*** up an open net sitter.

 

[Sens of Anarchy]

 

[Sens in Process]

Zadina is not a good player.

The play with Detroit has always been to grab Kubalik, the 17th overall and one of their 2nds in this draft.

The 17th pick could be used to acquire another forward (Laughton) or you could just target one of Bertuzzi, Barbashev or Domi to play LW in UFA.

If we keep the 17th overall, Sens will probably all over Barlow. He is going to drop this year for being a one dimensional goal scorer, but he has those intangibles the team covets so much( grittiness, relentlessness and leadership qualities)

 

[Senator Stanley]

With the names being tossed around as possible targets in a DeBrincat trade, I would just pivot to an all futures deal and try to leverage the cap space that comes with a $7.5-9M player - who apparently we were budgeted to keep at that figure - going out the door.

We don't need to directly solve our problems with the DeBrincat trade, nor do we need to immediately reroute the assets we acquire (i.e. you can acquire 17 and trade other futures - we don't have to force a 17 for Player X deal). Just get as much value as possible.

 

[Sens Vader]

I would rather Rasmussen or Soderblom

id take Perron as well just because I think he can pot 20 goals and be a good fit in the top 9 for a season, without any future cap implications

 

[Senator Stanley]

I would rather Rasmussen or Soderblom

id take Perron as well just because I think he can pot 20 goals and be a good fit in the top 9 for a season, without any future cap implications

If he's thrown in as filler, that's one thing, but Perron is the type of player that we should be able to acquire as a free agent without diluting the return in a DBC trade. That's how Detroit got him last summer - two years at $4.5M/per as a free agent.

 

[Sens Vader]

If he's thrown in as filler, that's one thing, but Perron is the type of player that we should be able to acquire as a free agent without diluting the return in a DBC trade. That's how Detroit got him last summer - two years at $4.5M/per as a free agent.

Yeah sorry that is what I meant, thrown in as a filler

I do not have confidence in the UFA market personally, Ottawa is never a hot spot for players

This year however we may have more advantages with cap space and a new owner