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There seem to be all kinds of reports of players that teams want to move or players who want out of their present teams. Pierre LeBrun has mentioned a few guys who could be more or less comparable to DBC that Ott could target.
 
aragorn said:
There seem to be all kinds of reports of players that teams want to move or players who want out of their present teams. Pierre LeBrun has mentioned a few guys who could be more or less comparable to DBC that Ott could target.
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None of those guys would want to be in Ottawa.

If they want out of Winnipeg, or NJ, they aren't going to settle in Kanata
 
Nac Mac Feegle said:
100% this!

We're at the point where we have to stop begging players to stay here. It's a freaking honor to be an NHL player and to get paid millions to play a game. And Ottawa is a great city for a family, and we're going to have legit solid owners in a few (days? weeks? months?) that will bring about a new era for the team and city. Anyone who isn't totally excited and 100% onboard with it in that locker room needs to be jettisoned immediately. No more excuses.

Bring in a big boy who loves to play both ends of the ice and plays a strong physical game with grit and skill. Rock the house down.
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Ya, hoping that with new ownership that will improve and change some things.

Speaking of the Fiala trade, isn't Faber a good d-man prospect? From what I read, that's the impression I got and what I remember. Is Faber being overlooked or downplayed perhaps?
 
BondraTime said:
None of those guys would want to be in Ottawa.

If they want out of Winnipeg, or NJ, they aren't going to settle in Kanata
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Unless we know these guys personally we don't know what they want & it's presumptious to think so. Dubois wants to be closer to Montreal last time I heard, & Ottawa is an hour away without the pressure of the Montreal media. Bratt is Swedish & both Alfredsson & EK played here & both seemed to love it here. Boeser seems to want out of Van why wouldn't he want to play here with the players we have he could play with? It's a myth that players won't come here, they are individuals who will decide for themselves where they want to go, but some have no choice are traded here & end up loving it. It happens.

People need to stop saying players won't play here, we don't know who will & who won't & what they want exactly unless you have talked to these players. Who wants to play in Winn & yet players go there & see it's a nice city. Players also play in Calgary, Arz & Columbus, Philly is a mess right now, but I imagine there are plenty of players who will play there. There are plenty of reasons for players to want to play here especially on an up & coming team of good young players.
 
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Is there any chance of getting 2 hard to play against forwards for him? Guys who can chip in offensively, but are really heavy players to play against?

Leaning towards this being the best option, aside from him signing.
 
SpezDispenser said:
Is there any chance of getting 2 hard to play against forwards for him? Guys who can chip in offensively, but are really heavy players to play against?

Leaning towards this being the best option, aside from him signing.
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They could get one and get another in free agency. Or they can get futures for him and flip them to another team for a guy. The bottom line is not what they are getting for him right now given the flat cap it just has to be good value.
 
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SpezDispenser said:
Is there any chance of getting 2 hard to play against forwards for him? Guys who can chip in offensively, but are really heavy players to play against?

Leaning towards this being the best option, aside from him signing.
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These are the types of pieces that you'd hope your pro scouts could find - via free agency or trade - that don't require a premium asset like DeBrincat to acquire. And I know we have terrible pro scouting, but that's all the more reason to clean house. There's a lot of talk about "we need a goalie" or "we need middle six" depth, and that all might be true, but I don't think we should feel like we have to use DeBrincat to directly fill those needs.
 
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bert said:
They could get one and get another in free agency. Or they can get futures for him and flip them to another team for a guy. The bottom line is not what they are getting for him right now given the flat cap it just has to be good value.
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As long as we end up with 2 really nice forwards in lieu of DBC, it can be made to work. Plus allocate a tiny piece for Andersen or someone similar.

This is all unfortunate, not really happy with this transaction for obvious reasons. I appreciate the gamble to a degree, but it didn't work.
 
L'Aveuglette said:
Looking forward to watching DBC score 40 goals with another team while we force some 3rd liner onto the 2nd line who will struggle to net 20 himself.
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I think 40 is being conservative personally. Imagine him with an elite level passer? Or Stutzle for that matter?

Give him a top line C and he goes to town. Boo, wish we could keep him.

EDIT: That said, that's not exactly accurate. You want 2 guys who can score ~20 for lines 2 and 3 to add some serious depth.
 
Silencio said:
lol at DeBrincat's agent saying he'd be happy to play one more year in Ottawa...he'd literally be that meme of the guy holding his girlfriend's hand while whistling at the girl in the red dress. Just cut bait.
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If you don't get a deal you like you wait until the deadline. If we're true contenders by then keep him as a rental. If we're touch and go to make the playoffs deal with retention for a solid rental package. He's not going to sulk in a contract (UFA) year.
 
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HoweHullOrr said:
Ya, hoping that with new ownership that will improve and change some things.

Speaking of the Fiala trade, isn't Faber a good d-man prospect? From what I read, that's the impression I got and what I remember. Is Faber being overlooked or downplayed perhaps?
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Yes, that's correct, Faber is pretty highly regarded as a D prospect. Drafted in the 2nd round in 2020 and his stock rose post draft year. Plays the right side too which is conventionally regarded as more valuable. That package for Fiala essentially had the value of 2 first round picks.

To put it into perspective, the Fiala package likely has very similar value to a mid/late first (think somewhere between 16th-24th overall) + Greig.
 
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Cosmix said:
I wonder if Dorion call pull a white rabbit out of his hat this time?
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I am definitely curious to find out. While in hindsight the trade does appear to be a bust, it's hard to criticize definitively without knowing the return. I assume it will be a bit of a let down, but hopefully all things considered, we come out okay come training camp as far as the full squad goes.
 
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Lol at DeBrincat's agent saying that his client would be happy to spend another year in Ottawa. No kidding - he collects about $8 mil after arbitration then walks to UFA status in a year when the cap is going to rise significantly. Absolutely he's going to be OK with that. We, of course, aren't, which is why he's getting moved at or before the draft. He gets a hand in picking his destination alright, but he has to do it now, not a year from now.
 
Sens of Anarchy said:
Thats what we need. Maybe we get 1 in trade, 1 UFA, maybe we take futures and get 2 in free agency ..
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I hate free agency usually, but this might be a year to actively pursue a few guys. Not sure who though. Killorn would put us in cap trouble, so he's out and I don't know how many good, solid guys there are left.
 
Larionov said:
Lol at DeBrincat's agent saying that his client would be happy to spend another year in Ottawa. No kidding - he collects about $8 mil after arbitration then walks to UFA status in a year when the cap is going to rise significantly. Absolutely he's going to be OK with that. We, of course, aren't, which is why he's getting moved at or before the draft. He gets a hand in picking his destination alright, but he has to do it now, not a year from now.
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He doesn’t though, he doesn’t need to sign an 8 year deal prior to a trade.
 
Larionov said:
Lol at DeBrincat's agent saying that his client would be happy to spend another year in Ottawa. No kidding - he collects about $8 mil after arbitration then walks to UFA status in a year when the cap is going to rise significantly. Absolutely he's going to be OK with that. We, of course, aren't, which is why he's getting moved at or before the draft. He gets a hand in picking his destination alright, but he has to do it now, not a year from now.
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Yup. No hard feelings, but he can GTFO.

Good point above though, there's no forcing an extension here, he may be moved as a rental, but he should be moved this summer without question.
 
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StrakaCorvoHoffman said:
Yup. No hard feelings, but he can GTFO.

Good point above though, there's no forcing an extension here, he may be moved as a rental, but he should be moved this summer without question.
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It's not his fault, but it's the other side of the gamble that everyone feared - and really should never happen again. Even Chychrun has too little term left for my liking.
 
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Cosmix said:
If he refuses to sign a long term deal now, then trade him now.
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100%. I would hate to see him brought back.

Nothing but a distraction with a bad ending imo. We're either collapsing and out of it enough to actually deal him, which means the season was a waste, or, we're in it and the team can't trade him because of that and we all know they wouldn't end up doing it.
SpezDispenser said:
It's not his fault, but it's the other side of the gamble that everyone feared - and really should never happen again. Even Chychrun has too little term left for my liking.
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Yes, unfortunate in hindsight for sure. At least Chychrun appears excited to be in Ottawa. He was practically crying in his interview after getting here. Cat on the other hand never once gave off the vibe that he was happy to be in Ottawa and looking back, barely seemed motivated enough to give the standard ufa lip service.
 
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SENStastic said:
If Nashville is on his preferred list, meaning he'd be willing to sign an extension with that team, then Saros would be a great target assuming Nashville is heading for a small rebuild/retool for the next few years. Saros is 28 and they'd be wasting the last few years of his prime by the time they are on the upswing again, and he's one of the better trade pieces they have available to get assets back to reload. DB will still be in his prime at 28-29. They also would have Askarov ready to take the helm by then.
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Nashville fan here, you guys need to forget about Saros, if we're dealing him we need a legitimate defense or center prospect/young player or a top 5 pick. Ottawa fans scoffed at Sanderson, but that is the quality of prospect we are looking for in a move for Saros. Apparently our ask from LA at the deadline was 2 1sts + prospects, the ask is high.

As for DeBrincat, we've got Forsberg, Duchene, Tomasino, Evangelista, Kemell at wing and Parssinen and Novak who can play center and wing.
 
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