Player Discussion Alex DeBrincat

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Ask yourselves this - if DeBrincat was signing here, would the GM be on a podcast speculating on his future here? Let's be honest - there is absolutely zero indication that the two sides are working on an extension, and DeBrincat gave zero indication throughout the season that he was inclined to sign one. He wants to either hit UFA in a year, or sign an extension in a place more to his liking. That's his right as a veteran player, and it's the risk we took in acquiring a guy in his contract situation.

The only thing to do here is trade him at the draft and try to recoup our initial investment. I'm pretty sure we can do that - Carolina and Colorado are in win-now mode and will be looking for scoring, while Detroit has the cap space and some prospects. (I've always felt like Debrincat has been angling to go home to Michigan.) We can then pocket the picks and prospects, or turn around and flip them for some immediate help.
Yeah that's my gut feeling as well. It's been a month and a half since the end of season player interviews, if you need that long to make a decision on your future then that tells me DeBrincat just isn't that enthusiastic about staying in Ottawa.
 
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please just sign him long term

with the cap going up this won't be an issue going forward
It'll be hard to shore up the bottom-six and goaltending next year if Cat stays, but the year after should be great with the cap going up and shedding dead cap.
 
I can’t take 8 years of Debrincat being a playoff no show. Please move him.
 
please just sign him long term

with the cap going up this won't be an issue going forward
Takes two parties to sign a contract, and I just don't see any indication that ADB is looking to sign. In a perfect world for him, he takes his qualifying offer and becomes a UFA next July 1, with perhaps a side trip as a playoff rental in Spring 2024. Needless to say, that doesn't work for the Sens. We can't have that drama continuing right to the trade deadline next March 1, and we certainly can't risk losing him for nothing if he got hurt in the leadup to the deadline. No, either he signs in the next three weeks or he needs to be moved - period, full stop.
 
I can’t take 8 years of Debrincat being a playoff no show. Please move him.
What indicates to you that he'd be a playoff no show? He had 6pts in 9 gp in his only playoff appearance to date, and that was against the 1st seed and 2nd seed in his division (3rd and 5th in the conference) while his team was the lowest ranked WC team to make it in the play in.
 
Ask yourselves this - if DeBrincat was signing here, would the GM be on a podcast speculating on his future here? Let's be honest - there is absolutely zero indication that the two sides are working on an extension, and DeBrincat gave zero indication throughout the season that he was inclined to sign one. He wants to either hit UFA in a year, or sign an extension in a place more to his liking. That's his right as a veteran player, and it's the risk we took in acquiring a guy in his contract situation.

The only thing to do here is trade him at the draft and try to recoup our initial investment. I'm pretty sure we can do that - Carolina and Colorado are in win-now mode and will be looking for scoring, while Detroit has the cap space and some prospects. (I've always felt like Debrincat has been angling to go home to Michigan.) We can then pocket the picks and prospects, or turn around and flip them for some immediate help.

What's the worse possible outcome? Qualify 9M, TDL last minute deal for Lane Hudson, miss the playoffs after dropping games post deadline?

I think they should be looking to trade him unless he is willing to sign a team friendly deal under ~7.5m AAV. I don't think we get a top 10 pick back. Maybe a later 3rd 1st and a prospect. I am not sure PD would be looking for picks being in as close to win now mode as he's been since he traded for Duchene.
 
What's the worse possible outcome? Qualify 9M, TDL last minute deal for Lane Hudson, miss the playoffs after dropping games post deadline?

I think they should be looking to trade him unless he is willing to sign a team friendly deal under ~7.5m AAV. I don't think we get a top 10 pick back. Maybe a later 3rd 1st and a prospect. I am not sure PD would be looking for picks being in as close to win now mode as he's been since he traded for Duchene.
You can always take the picks and prospects from one team, then flip them to another for more immediate help...
 
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I’m not sure I would risk a 60+ mill contract to injury for 9 mill and a chance for a bigger payday, but that’s just me. If I was ADB, and my wife was happy in Ottawa (likely the real x-factor), I’d extend. But hey, I’m not a US citizen with all my family south of the border. I’m literally in Ottawa because my wife loves it here with her family, so I guess I don’t really know what ADB might be thinking. I hope he signs long term.
 
Not too concerned that an extension hasn't been signed or that PD didn't mention any progress in the situation. Given the uncertainty, I can't imagine any player would want to sign a long-term deal with new ownership looming. Add his wife and newborn kid to the matter, its something I'd rather he take all the time he needs, especially if he wants to commit here.

If we sign him, I hope its 8 x $8 million aav which is fair value considering he showed this year that he isn't exactly a lock for 40g. If we move him...the return will always be underwhelming given what we paid.
 
Given the uncertainty, I can't imagine any player would want to sign a long-term deal with new ownership looming
This argument doesn't really make sense to me, all indications are new ownership will be a strong group, I don't see players having a strong preference over any of the realistic options (I've ruled out Niko at this point)
 
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This argument doesn't really make sense to me, all indications are new ownership will be a strong group, I don't see players having a strong preference over any of the realistic options (I've ruled out Niko at this point)
Players don’t care one iota who the new owners are going to be. Any of the 3 will be the same in the players eyes, they’ll pay the cheques.
 
He has more playoff points than Brady, Stuztle and Norris combined
Good argument. Sigh

Might as well trade the whole team.
Look up the definition of projection.

What indicates to you that he'd be a playoff no show? He had 6pts in 9 gp in his only playoff appearance to date, and that was against the 1st seed and 2nd seed in his division (3rd and 5th in the conference) while his team was the lowest ranked WC team to make it in the play in.
He’s somewhat competitive but definitely not “hard nosed”, I project him to be pretty much what we saw this year. We need better at 8M.
 
please just sign him long term

with the cap going up this won't be an issue going forward
Not if he's demanding 9m+ aav, no matter the term. He wont be able to live up to that number on our roster stapled on the 2nd line behind Tkachuk, and with the other talented players competing with him for ice time, pp min, and offensive zone opportunities, he simply wont have those prime opportunities to maximize his production with our current roster.

Dont get me wrong, he may very well be a 9M+ player and put up consistent 40g/ppg seasons somewhere else, but he needs to be the primary go to guy for the team he plays on to do that. I dont see him more than a 30g/70pt guy on our team, and he likely values himself as being a higher caliber player than that and wont be surprising if he demands to be paid as an elite 1st liner. I was on the fence regarding signing him all season, but i've come around to the idea of trading him and using the return/assets/cap space to shore up the goaltending and forward depth instead, I'm pretty convinced thats the better option at this point.
 
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