Post-Game Talk: 9/26 PRESEASON 1 - Blue Jackets 3 BRUINS 2 - F/SO

[Fossy21]

He's still slow, just not quite as slow as last year.

Wait until the games actually mean something to the Bruins. He'll step up to the challenge.

...only he'll dip his blades in molasses on the way.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Love Krug but Trouble from Winnipeg is a much needed beast. We have a number of players in the system that can replace Krug.

If the B's had "a number of players in the system that can replace Krug" (someone who has average more than 40 pts a season in his first 3 NHL campaigns)...we all wouldn't be crying for them to add more NHL ready D.

If the B's add Trouba, subtracting Krug puts them in as bad/worse position for the coming year.

 

[Blowfish]

Wait until the games actually mean something to the Bruins. He'll step up to the challenge.

...only he'll dip his blades in molasses on the way.

Bruins really need to do something with Hayes...he's brutally slow and isn't an elite goal scorer so where does that leave him?

Goal Scorer on power = no
checking role = no
penalty kill = no
4th line = no

Sorry but i'm extremely disappointed with Hayes and looking back this is up there for very bad trades.

 

[Pia8988]

If the B's had "a number of players in the system that can replace Krug" (someone who has average more than 40 pts a season in his first 3 NHL campaigns)...we all wouldn't be crying for them to add more NHL ready D.

If the B's add Trouba, subtracting Krug puts them in as bad/worse position for the coming year.

I think Krug will have a big year after the surgery to repair his shoulder. Hopefully it will put to bed the trade Krug talk, but doubtful because of his size. I look forward to Krug being around for a while and soon to be wearing an 'A'

 

[ODAAT]

Zboril just seemed to have 'it'. Smooth, smart. Sending him back to junior this year could be a waste.

a waste? Disagree, while he "may" be ready for pro hockey his age doesn`t give the B`s much in the way of options, NHL or Junior, no in between.

I`m encouraged he`s showing many here a game that is strong but there`s no reason to rush a kid too soon and going back to Junior isn`t a bad thing at all and it`s far from a waste IMO

 

[DKH]

If Boston is getting Trouba they need to deal McAvoy or Carlo. All are RH defense and that is how Claude does it. Agree with Colt that Carlo looks to eventually be a top 4 beast. McAvoy you could get the motherload. Boston wants Trouba that bad they can do three ways with McAvoy or Carlo. Right shot D are gold and Boston has TWO teenage ones who easily project top 4!!!!

 

[Blowfish]

If the B's had "a number of players in the system that can replace Krug" (someone who has average more than 40 pts a season in his first 3 NHL campaigns)...we all wouldn't be crying for them to add more NHL ready D.

If the B's add Trouba, subtracting Krug puts them in as bad/worse position for the coming year.

I hear you and recognize what Krug has accomplished and brings to the team. Like i said one of my favourite players however a Trouba is badly missing on this team. He's a top pairing D that can log big minutes. He's a really good prize and bruins need to do whatever it takes to get him. With Morrow, C Miller and it appears Carlo you could replace some of the points Krug brought to the team. McAvoy is our new Krug.

 

[ODAAT]

Love Krug but Trouble from Winnipeg is a much needed beast. We have a number of players in the system that can replace Krug.

we do? While I`m exceptionally excited/optimistic with the progress of all those young D in the system, I see none of them being able to step in right now and provide what Krug can and does

Prediction: If Krug were moved (which I doubt is going to happen) within 10 games fans here would be screaming at Sweeney to find a guy who can play like Krug

 

[GloryDaze4877]

If Boston is getting Trouba they need to deal McAvoy or Carlo. All are RH defense and that is how Claude does it. Agree with Colt that Carlo looks to eventually be a top 4 beast. McAvoy you could get the motherload. Boston wants Trouba that bad they can do three ways with McAvoy or Carlo.

I would not touch either McAvoy or Carlo if at all possible. And if you are talking about a 3-way deal, the team that fits best is somebody like ANA, who doesn't really need more D prospects.

 

[ODAAT]

I hear you and recognize what Krug has accomplished and brings to the team. Like i said one of my favourite players however a Trouba is badly missing on this team. He's a top pairing D that can log big minutes. He's a really good prize and bruins need to do whatever it takes to get him. With Morrow, C Miller and it appears Carlo you could replace some of the points Krug brought to the team. McAvoy is our new Krug.

it`s not just about points in regards to what Krug brings and as pumped as I am to have McAvoy in the organization, he`s played 0 minutes of pro hockey

Trouba is a very nice player, one that could undoubtedly help this team, but he`s not some generational talent that I sell the farm to acquire

 

[Blowfish]

we do? While I`m exceptionally excited/optimistic with the progress of all those young D in the system, I see none of them being able to step in right now and provide what Krug can and does

Prediction: If Krug were moved (which I doubt is going to happen) within 10 games fans here would be screaming at Sweeney to find a guy who can play like Krug

I agree however fans will be more than excited to have a Trouba on the team who is no slouch for offense / creativity at the same time brings some major physical presence. Just saw your post and disagree. I believe he is a generational player. Watch what the Jets get for him...that will indicate generational.

 

[BruinDust]

Bruins really need to do something with Hayes...he's brutally slow and isn't an elite goal scorer so where does that leave him?

Goal Scorer on power = no
checking role = no
penalty kill = no
4th line = no

Sorry but i'm extremely disappointed with Hayes and looking back this is up there for very bad trades.

If he isn't scoring, I don't disagree Hayes has little use.

But he was pretty decent last night, as far as his typical performance goes.

If he's going to be here (and all signs point to him being in Boston to start the year), they need to figure out what to do with him.

He's not a 4th line guy. And playing with plugs does him no favors as he doesn't create his own chances. Plus you need those 4th line roles for penalty killers as Claude runs 6 PK forwards per game.

Spooner as his C doesn't work. The last 20 games of last season are proof of that.

Backes and Hayes on the same line seems pretty redundant. Neither create their own chances and both gravitate to that net front presence role.

So your left with

A) Bergeron line

B) Krejci line

C) Press-box.

I'd vote for C but let's assume the Bruins don't have the depth to scratch him.

Between the two, I'd try him on the Krejci line. Let Pasta play alongside Bergeron or Backes.

 

[Pia8988]

Losing Krug kills the power play. That's not to say he's a PP specialist, but no one currently on defense can run the point anywhere close to how well he can.

 

[GloryDaze4877]

If he isn't scoring, I don't disagree Hayes has little use.

But he was pretty decent last night, as far as his typical performance goes.

If he's going to be here (and all signs point to him being in Boston to start the year), they need to figure out what to do with him.

He's not a 4th line guy. And playing with plugs does him no favors as he doesn't create his own chances. Plus you need those 4th line roles for penalty killers as Claude runs 6 PK forwards per game.

Spooner as his C doesn't work. The last 20 games of last season are proof of that.

Backes and Hayes on the same line seems pretty redundant. Neither create their own chances and both gravitate to that net front presence role.

So your left with

A) Bergeron line

B) Krejci line

C) Press-box.

I'd vote for C but let's assume the Bruins don't have the depth to scratch him.

Between the two, I'd try him on the Krejci line. Let Pasta play alongside Bergeron or Backes.

I don't find this to be true at all. If Hayes gravitated to the front of the net naturally like Backes does, we would not be having this discussion. I agree that if Hayes was doing what he SHOULD be doing, they would be redundant.

 

[DKH]

I agree however fans will be more than excited to have a Trouba on the team who is no slouch for offense / creativity at the same time brings some major physical presence. Just saw your post and disagree. I believe he is a generational player. Watch what the Jets get for him...that will indicate generational.

Trouba is a generational player. Wow. I had him pegged in the Glen Wesley good solid 2/3 'I like you but want more'

 

[BruinDust]

I don't find this to be true at all. If Hayes gravitated to the front of the net naturally like Backes does, we would not be having this discussion. I agree that if Hayes was doing what he SHOULD be doing, they would be redundant.

You probably right about that.

Backes does it with gusto, Hayes does it about 25% of the time.

Maybe my perception is skewed as the other 75% of the time he's doing absolutely nothing and I don't notice him.

I also found with Hayes off the rush at least he was often times last year so far behind the play that by the time the he got to the front of the net, the play was often over and blown dead. Especially with Spooner who Hayes just couldn't keep pace with off the rush.

 

[ODAAT]

I don't find this to be true at all. If Hayes gravitated to the front of the net naturally like Backes does, we would not be having this discussion. I agree that if Hayes was doing what he SHOULD be doing, they would be redundant.

exactly, I only saw the highlights from last night, and Hayes goal is one I thought we should have seen more of last year, going right to the front of the net and try to bang home rebounds, screen the goalie

The report on him before he arrived was he wasn`t a bruiser, wasn`t someone who`s going to bowl over anyone, just isn`t his game so I wasn`t expecting that. But what I also wasn`t expecting was a complete absence outside of a game here and there of seemingly any willingness to push his way to the front, use that big frame to cause headaches and a frustrating habit of appearing completely disinterested

 

[ODAAT]

I agree however fans will be more than excited to have a Trouba on the team who is no slouch for offense / creativity at the same time brings some major physical presence. Just saw your post and disagree. I believe he is a generational player. Watch what the Jets get for him...that will indicate generational.

we have a different definition of what a generational player is. IMO, if he truly was that, the Jets would find a new home for Buff or Myers

 

[Pia8988]

we have a different definition of what a generational player is. IMO, if he truly was that, the Jets would find a new home for Buff or Myers

Bobby Orr, Ray Bourque, Nicklas Lidstrom, and ............ Jacob Trouba

 

[ODAAT]

Bobby Orr, Ray Bourque, Nicklas Lidstrom, and ............ Jacob Trouba

same thing IMO

 

[bruinsfan1970]

Heinen is making this team

He reminds me of a young P.J. Axxelsson.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

If the B's had "a number of players in the system that can replace Krug" (someone who has average more than 40 pts a season in his first 3 NHL campaigns)...we all wouldn't be crying for them to add more NHL ready D.

If the B's add Trouba, subtracting Krug puts them in as bad/worse position for the coming year.

I completely agree with this. In fact at this point i think Carlo is closer to giving the Bruins what Trouba can give them than any of the Bruins young defenseman are to replacing Krug.

Maybe Gryz replaces Krug, but I think he a year or two to adjust to the pro game, and show he can handle the physical beating. Maybe McAvoy can replace some of what Krug brings, but obviously not this year

If Boston is getting Trouba they need to deal McAvoy or Carlo. All are RH defense and that is how Claude does it. Agree with Colt that Carlo looks to eventually be a top 4 beast. McAvoy you could get the motherload. Boston wants Trouba that bad they can do three ways with McAvoy or Carlo. Right shot D are gold and Boston has TWO teenage ones who easily project top 4!!!!

I disagree. The Jets are looking for a LHD, although if forced to settle they may just accept Boston's best D, but right now there is a long way to go before they are forced to settle

It may be an issue in the 2020-21 season that the Bruins are too deep on the right handed side, as McAvoy and Carlo both mature and are ready to take on 22+ minutes a night, but that is 4 years from now. And if all 3 are stud RH D at the NHL level at that time, then you can deal one of them for a stud at a different position or an impact prospect package.

 

[ODAAT]

He reminds me of a young P.J. Axxelsson.

Disagree, I think Heinen owns a comb/brush

 

[GloryDaze4877]

Bobby Orr, Ray Bourque, Nicklas Lidstrom, and ............ Jacob Trouba

Dan is in full on "exaggeration for the sake of affect" mode this morning

 

[DaStinger]

I thought Mueller looked like the best forward on the ice. Carlo and Zboril made some nice plays. I like how Heinen always seems to go to the net mouth looking for tips/rebounds. De Brusk looks like he could turn into an effective energy player in due time. Hayes was in the right spot to bang home the beauty pass but still seems slow in comparison to those around him.

Overall a pretty fun time to be watching the prospects play, large amount of young talent in the pool.