Irishguy42
Mr. Preachy
Quinn literally said in the post-game presser that he needs to get more minutes for Chytil, which includes the possibility of putting him at wing.
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Figurative. Not actual. Of course the refs would at least remember that time they gave you a rotten call.
Oscar Lindberg
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I’m aware of what he said
They shouldn’t be putting him on wing. He needs to develop at center.
Everyone gets bent out of shape when someone suggests Andersson play wing. They should feel the same with Chytil
Most kids who play center in lower leagues end up playing wing if they make the NHL. It's not the end of the world if Chytil and Andersson both play wing as pros. In fact, its the more likely scenario.
ReggieDunlop68
hey hanrahan!
The only thing that isnt clear is what Chytil’s actually ceiling is, but it might be less than what a vocal group wanted him to be, so perhaps he needs to earn those minutes instead if getting “the minutes he deserves”.
I agree 100%.
I don't see the need to make him play wing just in order to feed him more minutes.
This team needs centers in the worst way and we we'll have 3 if properly developed..
ReggieDunlop68
hey hanrahan!
Maybe he’s not good enough to be a top line pivot in the NHL, so they are trying to NOT hurt his development by completely destroying him at center
Paulie Walnutz
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Here’s the problem I think many of us are sharing: our brains are telling us it’s going to be a long season because we know the team isn’t good, and it’s the best thing for the organization to grab a top pick in next year’s draft. However, at the same time, we watch the games and root with our hearts and still get angry or upset after a loss. It’s a Criss Angel Mind Freak brain rape.
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A lot of good things today; don't mind the loss. We had some bad luck. It happens. Bring on the next opponent!
Not to knock anyone here and I'm sure the intentions are in the right place but personally, I don't feel it's right for ANYONE to tell someone else how to feel.
We're all a heavily invested in this team and you're entitled to feel however you want.
People aren't all wired the same exact way and some are just more passionate while others just act like they're watching paint dry.
There is not a single thing wrong with that and don't ever let anyone else tell you differently.
To each his own
ReggieDunlop68
hey hanrahan!
I always think of Malhotra with things like this. I’m not saying they are the same type of player.
John Muckler had said something along the lines that he could be a great checking center, but he was not a top line offensive center.
Well the media and more importantly the Checckets group didn’t like hearing that, so the narrative became that he killled Manny’s development.
The reality was, Manny played well over 1000 games as a great checking line center.
His development was only “ruined” in the minds of those who believed the narrative.
The truth is aside from some horrible injury or some other bizzare circumstances, I have yet to see players “ruined” over the long term.
For example, when Super Mario came into the league, the Penguins were so shitty having dismantled the team to get him, that he didn’t want to play for them.
And the Penguins were shit for several years even with him until some draft luck with the fall of the iron curtain and one of the most lopsided trades in modern history with the Whalers.
Long story short, the only thing that later ruined Mario’s career was cancer and back injuires. Until then he met expectations carrying that shitty team in the Berg.
John Muckler had said something along the lines that he could be a great checking center, but he was not a top line offensive center.
Well the media and more importantly the Checckets group didn’t like hearing that, so the narrative became that he killled Manny’s development.
The reality was, Manny played well over 1000 games as a great checking line center.
His development was only “ruined” in the minds of those who believed the narrative.
The truth is aside from some horrible injury or some other bizzare circumstances, I have yet to see players “ruined” over the long term.
For example, when Super Mario came into the league, the Penguins were so shitty having dismantled the team to get him, that he didn’t want to play for them.
And the Penguins were shit for several years even with him until some draft luck with the fall of the iron curtain and one of the most lopsided trades in modern history with the Whalers.
Long story short, the only thing that later ruined Mario’s career was cancer and back injuires. Until then he met expectations carrying that shitty team in the Berg.
I gotta disagree.
If he's not ready to play center at the NHL level then send him down until he is.
Besides, forcing him to learn a new position on the fly, even though slightly simplified, might not be the best idea IMO
ReggieDunlop68
hey hanrahan!
Machinehead
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That's if we drafted well in this past draft and continue to draft well. A lot of trust is being put into this FO.
Jim Ramsay
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Any ideas why post game threads after losses are so much longer than PGTs after we win?
Its so strange to me, its like people cant wait to jump on here after losses and yell the sky is falling, yet after wins the place is crickets
Its so strange to me, its like people cant wait to jump on here after losses and yell the sky is falling, yet after wins the place is crickets
Machinehead
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Not to knock anyone here and I'm sure the intentions are in the right place but personally, I don't feel it's right for ANYONE to tell someone else how to feel.
We're all a heavily invested in this team and you're entitled to feel however you want.
People aren't all wired the same exact way and some are just more passionate while others just act like they're watching paint dry.
There is not a single thing wrong with that and don't ever let anyone else tell you differently.
To each his own
You know what, we don't agree often, but this is a great post.
For those who can be hopeful about the future while this team is atrocious and genuinely feel ok with that, good for them. I really mean that.
I can't do that. I want to win every game. I don't have the patience to say "they'll be good in 3 years." (which is still extremely optimistic and absolute best case scenario, but different debate)
If it were the Yankees or the Giants I could say "you know what, I'm not going to get invested until this team is relevant." I can't do that with the Rangers. Hockey is too special to me.
ReggieDunlop68
hey hanrahan!
If Lundqvist vanished into a worm hole, this team would be lottery for the last few years regardless of intentionally dismantling the team.
There isn’t a plan B.
Furthermore, let’s say the whole rebuild doesn’t work. It’s as much an assumption that the team would be significantly better than they would be anyway. The difference is instead of having cheap players making it a bubble team, they would have mercenaries purchased to keep them afloat which is par for the course since the 70s.
ReggieDunlop68
hey hanrahan!
Machinehead
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Actual new people in charge of this team instead of one of Sather's assistants might be a plan B.
I agree 100% across the board and I can't do it either...I'm just way to competitive by nature lol.
I've been a life long Yanks and Giants diehard as well but they're just not the NYR's.
ReggieDunlop68
hey hanrahan!
Who?
And I don’t see any profesional disagreeing with tearing down and building up. I mean these are inherent parts of fracnhises in draft based leagues particularly those with hard caps let alone the not “cuttable” contracts in the NHL.
A team’s marketers might see different in the short term, but outliers aside the overwhelming evidence [not just in the NHL] supports bottoming out and building up for long term, particularly championship success.
It is what it is.
I'm not really understanding your point.
He's here now but just needs a little polishing.
JG was adamant about developing him and LA as centers so who would say that a 19 isn't a center just because he needs a little more time to adapt?
ReggieDunlop68
hey hanrahan!
Sacrificing is part of competition.
You don’t find it embarrassing icing weak expensive teams to appease the box leases or wasting hall of fame careers because they have to buy shit to fill the holes from poor drafting positions?
I’m going to let you in on a little secrect. For many decades, the MSG brass didnt ice those shitty yet expensive star laden teams because of pride.
Machinehead
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I don't know, somebody besides Gorton?
Since 2000, this FO has drafted ZERO elite players, outside of the crease. Now all of a sudden they're going to draft a 1C, a 1D, and a complimentary winger capable of taking us all the way? Definition of insanity.
And sure, they haven't picked high and now they will. But plenty of elite players aren't taken high. Zero in 18 years. At some point, maybe we have to acknowledge that they can't identify it.
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