Boston Bruins 24-25 Roster/Cap thread II

[JCRO]

Zacha-Stephenson-Pastrnak
Marchand-Coyle-Arvidsson
Frederic-Poitras-Geekie
Beecher-Kastelic-Brazeau

Boqvist/Lauko?

 

[Dr Quincy]

Korp still makes no sense and they haven’t come out and talked about the player similar to Martin Jones. I know we aren’t getting a first or anything of value for him but maybe there is a deal in the works of some kind.

DET just paid a 2nd to dump a better player with a better contract. And Korpisalo has a 10 team NTC

 

[GordonHowe]

Why would Lindholm not be here in 3 years? He's 29.

Who was Mr Nasty in the Panthers defense? Or the Oilers?

You don't think Kastelic is a Mr. Nasty add to the bottom6?

Thanks for the clips. I'll take a look at them.

 

[yazmybaby]

DET just paid a 2nd to dump a better player with a better contract. And Korpisalo has a 10 team NTC

I saw that too and was alarmed when I saw the trade.
Walman is a top 4 dee and was not making a great deal of money.
I would have rather traded for him and a second rd pick for LU, vs the Sens deal.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

I saw that too and was alarmed when I saw the trade.
Walman is a top 4 dee and was not making a great deal of money.
I would have rather traded for him and a second rd pick for LU, vs the Sens deal.

But Detroit has to want to get Ullmark as a return. Seems like they are opening space for a different reason.

 

[JoeIsAStud]

The AAV may not be far off but I think Stephenson will be looking at a term of 4 years. GMs are becoming more and more reluctant to hand out big term, we saw it last summer as well. He's not an elite player I don't think 6-7 years is a realistic demand from him.

At this point that is just pure speculation. I don't believe that will be the case, but maybe NHL GM's suddenly got a lot smarter. He will certainly have longer offers than 4 years.

I tend to believe that come July 1, the fog of war sets in and reason flies out the window, as fan bases see big cap space numbers available for their team, and are demanding it gets spent

 

[GordonHowe]

Why would Lindholm not be here in 3 years? He's 29.

Who was Mr Nasty in the Panthers defense? Or the Oilers?

You don't think Kastelic is a Mr. Nasty add to the bottom6?

I don't see any of the guys mentioned being a long-term solution. When I say three years, I just mean he's a stopgap. They all are.

That's okay, as far as it goes. There isn't much Sweeney can do about that. The market is what it is.

That's why I was hoping they would get NJ's 10th overall.

 

[BruinDust]

At this point that is just pure speculation. I don't believe that will be the case, but maybe NHL GM's suddenly got a lot smarter. He will certainly have longer offers than 4 years.

I tend to believe that come July 1, the fog of war sets in and reason flies out the window, as fan bases see big cap space numbers available for their team, and are demanding it gets spent

One time I would agree, but I think things are changing. We saw the reluctance last summer. See Bertuzzi, Tyler and his one-year deal in TO.

The Bruins extended a former MVP in Hall for 4 years.

And let's be honest, GMs don't care about fans demanding cap space spent. Now owners on the other hand, they can push a GM to do some foolish stuff.

 

[yazmybaby]

I'd be ok with Stephenson, as long as we add a high end winger like Guentzel or Reinhart.

Not happening, unless we move out a player like HL.
We only have 21.6M in cap space.
SR is going to want and get 10M +, CS will get 5-6M, JG will get 8.5-9M. and we still need to sign Swayman and roster 2 other players ( we have 4 contracts open).

 

[Oates2Neely]

Stephenson and Domi and I'm a happy camper. Speedy, competitive, and both centers that are good at the dot. Cheaper alternative to Lindholm and allow the bruins the ability to find another scoring winger and/or D.

What type of contract would you offer for a 29 year old center/ LW, who in 80 games played last season scored 9G, 38A, with a faceoff percentage of 50%? And where would you play him in the lineup?

 

[JoeIsAStud]

One time I would agree, but I think things are changing. We saw the reluctance last summer. See Bertuzzi, Tyler and his one-year deal in TO.

The Bruins extended a former MVP in Hall for 4 years.

And let's be honest, GMs don't care about fans demanding cap space spent. Now owners on the other hand, they can push a GM to do some foolish stuff.

Last year was a really cap constrained year, and Bertuzzi had better offers that were multi year (including from boston), and he didn't want to do that.

 

[BruinDust]

Last year was a really cap constrained year, and Bertuzzi had better offers that were multi year (including from boston), and he didn't want to do that.

Multi-year but were they the number of years he wanted? Very few players got 6+ and they were both among the youngest UFAs (Graves and Wood). Orlov was supposedly the best D-man available and he got 2 years.

Like you said, it's pure speculation. I just don't think Stephenson gets 6+ years. I think he's around 4 with a chance at 5.

Lindholm might not get 6+ either.

Really the only two surefire guys I see getting terms of 6 or above are Reinhart and Guentzel. Lindholm has an outside chance.

 

[Beyonder]

A headline just flashed across my phone but I can't seem to get to the story. Says the Bruins "may have" just traded Maroon. Sorry for lack of details, I'm sure somebody else can come up with those - headed into a meeting unfortunately (always).

Sorry, I can find more about this. Must have been clickbait bs. I would assume they mean Maroon's rights, and even that doesn't make a lot of sense.

 

[PlayMakers]

I don't see any of the guys mentioned being a long-term solution. When I say three years, I just mean he's a stopgap. They all are.

That's okay, as far as it goes. There isn't much Sweeney can do about that. The market is what it is.

That's why I was hoping they would get NJ's 10th overall.

I think Lindholm is a long-term solution. I think he signs long-term and would be a top6 center for us for the duration.

 

[Greek_physique]

I think Lindholm is a long-term solution. I think he signs long-term and would be a top6 center for us for the duration.

I agree as well.

When he was on the Flames top line with Tkachuk and Gaudreau, he was exceptional.

If he plays with Pasta or Marchand, we will be more than fine and he's proven to be an effective top 2 center

 

[Hookslide]

The AAV may not be far off but I think Stephenson will be looking at a term of 4 years. GMs are becoming more and more reluctant to hand out big term, we saw it last summer as well. He's not an elite player I don't think 6-7 years is a realistic demand from him.

What do you think he is looking at; I think you are in the 4-year range what about money.

 

[PlayMakers]

Haters gonna hate, ainter's gonna aint.

 

[BruinDust]

I agree as well.

When he was on the Flames top line with Tkachuk and Gaudreau, he was exceptional.

If he plays with Pasta or Marchand, we will be more than fine and he's proven to be an effective top 2 center

Lindholm needs play drivers on both wings to get the most out of him as he's a complimentary player.

What do you think he is looking at; I think you are in the 4-year range what about money.

Money is harder to peg but I'd say between 6 and 7 AAV.

 

[Mr. Make-Believe]

DET just paid a 2nd to dump a better player with a better contract. And Korpisalo has a 10 team NTC

Right. AND Walman went to a team with nothing but money and time. No Cup aspirations in SJ. And only two years worth of contract to eat.

Sweeney gave up a first to Anaheim to take half of Backes’ hit for a little over one season. He should know the cost of doing business by now.

 

[Blowfish]

What type of contract would you offer for a 29 year old center/ LW, who in 80 games played last season scored 9G, 38A, with a faceoff percentage of 50%? And where would you play him in the lineup?

He had some good regular seasons...meh on regular seasons, what matters is the playoffs.

I have no clue ... I hate presenting contract deals but here we go
$4x4
- Dude is a playoff warrior BULL (4 playoff experiences)
- In 50 PA games he has 7 goals and 19 helpers a +2 , averaging 57% at the dot a high 66% against the bruins and low 51%
- Domi surprised me this playoff and would love to see him on the bruins
- HF board fans would have a Dom and Domi to cheer about

Stephenson (cheaper alternative to Lindy, cup winner so a winner, speed, scoring)
Coyle (proven 2nd line center)
Domi (aggressive playoff pro who can dominate at the dot)

Add D

Lindholm and Steve are same age
Steve much better playoff +/-, Lindy a -
Steve heavier player with more speed
Equal F/O
The $1-3 million in cap savings with Steve will benefit other areas of need on the team
Steve has interesting look and Lindholm too model like LOL

 

[pucksindeep92]

I agree as well.

When he was on the Flames top line with Tkachuk and Gaudreau, he was exceptional.

If he plays with Pasta or Marchand, we will be more than fine and he's proven to be an effective top 2 center

Barring a trade, a home run draft pick, or a Poitras explosion, Boston won’t have a bonafide top tier 1C for a bit. That’s fine, we were fortunate to have 2 of them with Bergeron and Krecji for years. The all star names people see on next summer FA list will likely all sign with their existing teams or be traded for absolute hauls (Drai).

Go out and get Lindholm. He’s the best center you can get without subtracting right now, and is by far and a way an improvement in the middle, also strengthening wing by moving Zacha there. Stephenson is great and has wheels, but not as good of a playmaker. If you somehow grabbed Reinhardt but didn’t have a big upgrade in the middle like some are suggesting, it would be like having under inflated tires at the racetrack - looks good on paper, but doesn’t perform for what you paid for. I’d take Guenztel over him if given the option as you aren’t paying for that outlier record year and championship premium.

Lindholm + an offensive minded shooter likely gets you further these last playoffs where the biggest issue was simply not scoring. Kastelic addition should quiet the grit guys too.

 

[PlayMakers]

Lindholm needs play drivers on both wings to get the most out of him as he's a complimentary player.

I don't know... I watched him in the Vancouver series and last year with Calgary when we were rumored to be trying to trade for him. He's a pretty energetic player. He's also bigger and more physical than I thought. He averages around 100 hits and 50 takeaways a season so he's certainly driving in terms of creating turnovers and transition.

He also rated pretty high in terms of play driving micro stats in '23; primary assists (86th percentile), primary shot assists (77%), shot contributions (77%), shots off high danger passes (93%). All those numbers took a hit this year so there is definitely some risk. Did his play drop because of injuries or something else?

 

[Dizzay]

If we intend to keep Korpisalo, Sweeney better be working some magic with the Swayman signing. It better not start with an 8 unless its years. 7 years, 6.5 million, 45.5 million. Then, and only then will I forgive him for the Korpisalo deal.

 

[Patdud]

Sounds like Bert is going to market (for those looking to bring him back), more interestingly, Skinner is likely bought out, would be a perfect fit with Marchand and Coyle and a cheap option to allow them money to bring in another LD and bump Wotherspoon to no7.

Thinking along the lines of Duchene last year, 1 or 2 years around 3million would be a great target and a cheap way to add 20-30 goals. doesnt replace Jake as a PK'er but we cant ice a lineup of exclusively 2way players. need to have more finishing and offensive acumen.

 

[BamBamCam]

But Detroit has to want to get Ullmark as a return. Seems like they are opening space for a different reason.

Stamkos??