Boston Bruins 22-‘23 Bruins roster and trade proposals discussions. VII
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Gonzothe7thDman
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I thought they always said defense in hockey is like pitching. You can never have enough.
The Storm
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Yes. Especially after they draft Bedard. That kid is going to be a superstar.
The Yotes need to be in Tank mode. Better to trade Chycrun and as soon as possible. The Blackhawks are in prime Bedard position. So are the Blue Jackets.
Let's not forget there is a race to the bottom for the right to draft the next "Sidney Crosby".
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TCB
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The Best Top 4 without a doubt with Chychrun on board, today not so sure about that. Their pretty dam good but without their forwards willing to play the system and covering for the D men and the great Goaltending of Linus, those plus minus numbers may not look so good. its a total team effort Monty has them playing and if you can get a talent like Chychrun with that cap hit, you do it imo.
Montecristo
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I’m sure he does. I was just supporting Trenton’s thought that it would be enjoyable/cool/whatever to see a vet or two win their first cup here.
At least that’s how I took it.
For example…a guy like Okposo, (I know they’re in the hunt and won’t move him…just using him as an example)…
He’s a guy who has been around for a while and is pretty well respected but never been on a great team.
I‘d enjoy seeing him come here and win a cup more than Toews or Kane winning another one here.
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They kind of already have that in Foligno though TBQH.
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Arizona wants a pair of 1st + Prospect or young roster player for Chychrun. As far as "young roster players" go we don't have much. I'm counting young roster as 25 and under. That means Frederic or Zboril, Lauko. Not names that are going to wow Arizona. We likely would need to go picks/prospects route:
2023 1st + 2024 1st + Lysell
^Likely gets ARZ attention, but that a steep price and we'd still need to move out cap.
2023 1st + Lysell (equals a 1st) + Lohrei
^Again still need to move out cap and we've traded our 1st + top two prospects.
2023 1st + 2024 1st + Lysell
^Likely gets ARZ attention, but that a steep price and we'd still need to move out cap.
2023 1st + Lysell (equals a 1st) + Lohrei
^Again still need to move out cap and we've traded our 1st + top two prospects.
The Storm
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The Yotes will have to take Smith and his salary. Just like the Ducks took Moore and his salary in the Lindholm deal. Moore was worthless at that point, Smith is still functional.
Lysell is the equivalent of a 1st round pick.
ON3M4N
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I just want the Bruins to win the Cup and want us to acquire the player that gives us the best odds of don't that. I want to see guys like Bergeron, Marchand & Krejci to win one more before they call it a career. I want our future core to get that taste of Stanley Cup like the current core did when they were younger.
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I still can't believe the bruins landed and signed Lindholm!!!! Beauty!
ON3M4N
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Smith is a pending UFA who the Yotes would have to flip to another team this year. He'd have no future with the team and ARZ would just be paying his salary. He has no value to ARZ. Moore had multiple years left on his deal when dealt to ANH. Two different situations
BruinDust
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This is basically ever successful team in the NHL. The days of leaving defending solely on the feet of the D-men are over and have been for awhile. Commitment from the forwards on both sides of the puck is pretty much a requirement among good teams in today's NHL. It's basically why Bruce Boudreau is out of a job, he couldn't get any buy-in defensively from the Canucks forward group, so they brought in someone who they think can. The Bruins are not unique in the sense they get buy-in from their forward group to play strong on both sides of the puck.
TCB
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I think it all depends on what prospects the yotes like and where your first maybe. Army and yotes may-be in love with one or more of a Beecher Merkulov, Lohrie, Poitrais, Svedbeck,Gallagher, Jellvik or a Brunet. We don't know only Sweeney and Company does. He's been pretty well known to sticking to his guns with dealing on his terms, but its been a couple of years he's had Chychurn on the block and times running out on him on what was once an unbelievable 4 year contract is quickly down to two.
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Kegs
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Son of Donegal
Stay-at-home defenseman with zero upside.
"According to Emily Kaplan of ESPN, the Coyotes have set an asking price higher than what the Anaheim Ducks landed ahead of the 2022 NHL trade deadline for Hampus Landholm. In that blockbuster deal, Anaheim received the Boston Bruins’ 2022 first-round pick, second-round picks in 2023 and 2024 along with John Moore and Urho Vaakanainen."
Based on this and the fact that BOS does not own a 2nd in either 23 or 24, it would have to be something along the lines of:
2023 1st, 2024 1st, Lohrei or Lysell, Zboril, Smith
Zboril has some value...he's not a cap dump. Otherwise, Boston would have waived him a long time ago.
That is a heavy, heavy price, but it would be an ALL IN move.
Lindholm McAvoy
Chychrun Carlo
Grzelcyk Forbert
Reilly Clifton
It would be the best defense in the league by a wide margin.
Do I do it? If you think it puts the Bruins over the top, you have to, no? If the Bruins do not win the cup, they have him for an additional 2 years at a steal of a bargain. If they DO win the cup this year, what's to stop them from trading Chychrun for a package of picks and prospects at the draft or in the offseason?
Based on this and the fact that BOS does not own a 2nd in either 23 or 24, it would have to be something along the lines of:
2023 1st, 2024 1st, Lohrei or Lysell, Zboril, Smith
Zboril has some value...he's not a cap dump. Otherwise, Boston would have waived him a long time ago.
That is a heavy, heavy price, but it would be an ALL IN move.
Lindholm McAvoy
Chychrun Carlo
Grzelcyk Forbert
Reilly Clifton
It would be the best defense in the league by a wide margin.
Do I do it? If you think it puts the Bruins over the top, you have to, no? If the Bruins do not win the cup, they have him for an additional 2 years at a steal of a bargain. If they DO win the cup this year, what's to stop them from trading Chychrun for a package of picks and prospects at the draft or in the offseason?
DominicT
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I love Dave.
Exactly what I said a week and a half ago.
I will take it a step further then Dave: Bruins are one of them.
Two steps further: Toews said they could keep talking.
I now give you back to Dave.....
Blowfish
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You give up those draft picks now and the bruins are an excellent team for another 3-5 years. Problem is, apparently the ducks are interested in Chych. Bruins can match draft picks or high end prospects.
Mr. Make-Believe
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I think going from Gryz to Chychrun would be a massive boost to the powerplay. A genuinely threatening shot from the point and QB skills too. It's one small thing that the roster currently lacks and could really use. Especially considering Montgomery's accumen in getting offense from the blueline.
What makes one more excited is the contract and how Chychrun would fit for the next couple of seasons. He feels like a fit.
That said, you know my stance on the current roster. I won't be crying if it doesn't happen, which of course it almost assuredly won't. Chychrun is just the kind of player and fit that you get in on if you can.
neelynugs
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i imagine it won't get old for you when you nail the deadline for a 3rd straight year
Mr Cartmenez
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It's so tempting that I would probably pull the trigger if I was in Donnies shoes.
Yes, it's obviously steep, but Chychrun is exactly what the doctor ordered in our cap-situation. He'd make the team immediately better on both ends and can be fitted under the cap without much headaches.
If worst comes to worst, you could still trade him to get another 1st rounder back in the future, bit his 2 1/2 year contract fits the championship window perfectly. If the supporting cast is that good, Bergeron and even Krejci may think about another round.
The question is: Do you think you owe it to Bergeron, Marchand (and Krejci) to go all in? They sacrificed a lot of money just to see it getting relocated to bums in the past.
He does, Boston should waive him and he'll be claimed and come off the cap and free space up...lol.
DominicT
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I was out with someone from the Hawks a couple of Friday's ago. I think you and I spoke about that. Anyway, Toews told them he would have his decision by the end of the all-star break. Well, that decision didn't come. I guess he and Kane want to make their decision simultaneously.i imagine it won't get old for you when you nail the deadline for a 3rd straight year
It's going to require a third team getting involved to retain this year, BUT, the Hawks need $23 million worth of cap hits between 8 players to get to the floor next season. So they would take on Reilly's deal but at what cost to the Bruins?
CellyHard
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Bruins basically have two #1 defenseman
The fanbase: get us a third
The fanbase: get us a third
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