DatDude44
Hmmmm?
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So you've seen all the '07,'08 and '09's in the world?
2025 NHL Draft Prospects
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Ryan Van Horne
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Oh, god, here we go again. Do you want to know what the worst part of these threads are?
It's all the wisenheimers that come on hear to make jokes and denigrate the posters who want to talk about young, standout hockey players. Imagine that! Talking about potential future NHLers on a site called Hockey's Future? What is the internet coming to?
As for those who say it's too early? Well, as long as the information shared here is publicly available and does not violate privacy laws, I see no problem with discussing it. Kids from around the world go to high-level hockey tournaments as young as 11 and 12 years old. These tournaments keeps stats and put them on websites. The players know this and the parents know this. If they had a problem with it, they either wouldn't go to the tournament or they would ask the organizers to stop. So, if you have a problem with that, get the WSI organizers to stop hosting these tournaments or go clutch your pearls somewhere else.
The wisenheimers never have anything intelligent to say either, like "Keep things in perspective" or even "He has a lot of developing left to do, a lot can change" it's always an attempt to shut it down and they pretend they are know-it-alls when some of the kids that are talked about in threads like this don't become stars. Guess what? Saying a kid won't become an NHL star is like the house in Vegas saying you're not going to win at roulette. The odds are greatly stacked in your favour, so that doesn't make you some kind of expert. Your comments are also boring as hell.
What is interesting, though, is trying to find out if there is anything about young players that is predictive ... things that we can look for and watch as they develop that teach us something about the development of hockey players. /rant
It's all the wisenheimers that come on hear to make jokes and denigrate the posters who want to talk about young, standout hockey players. Imagine that! Talking about potential future NHLers on a site called Hockey's Future? What is the internet coming to?
As for those who say it's too early? Well, as long as the information shared here is publicly available and does not violate privacy laws, I see no problem with discussing it. Kids from around the world go to high-level hockey tournaments as young as 11 and 12 years old. These tournaments keeps stats and put them on websites. The players know this and the parents know this. If they had a problem with it, they either wouldn't go to the tournament or they would ask the organizers to stop. So, if you have a problem with that, get the WSI organizers to stop hosting these tournaments or go clutch your pearls somewhere else.
The wisenheimers never have anything intelligent to say either, like "Keep things in perspective" or even "He has a lot of developing left to do, a lot can change" it's always an attempt to shut it down and they pretend they are know-it-alls when some of the kids that are talked about in threads like this don't become stars. Guess what? Saying a kid won't become an NHL star is like the house in Vegas saying you're not going to win at roulette. The odds are greatly stacked in your favour, so that doesn't make you some kind of expert. Your comments are also boring as hell.
What is interesting, though, is trying to find out if there is anything about young players that is predictive ... things that we can look for and watch as they develop that teach us something about the development of hockey players. /rant
I have to admit that I always have mixed feeling about threads like this.
Yes it's interesting and can be informative but when conclusions start being made 2,3 or 4 years before their drafts it can a bit like the news media breaking news without context and the rush to be first denigrates the quality or the reporting.
That being said, when we get scouting reports I feel satisfied by reading the threads.
Ryan Van Horne
aka Scribe
Yes, there is a difference between "He is one of the top prospects identified for that draft year" and "He is a lock to go No. 1." I'm not interested in any mock drafts until the actual draft year -- and usually not until after the season has started.
What a lot of people forget is that the 2007 birth year players are being scouted this year. The WHL (which drafts a year earlier than other CHL leagues), prep schools, college teams -- they are all trying to gauge the talent from this birth year during this upcoming season.
Pavel Buchnevich
"Pavel Buchnevich The Fake"
I like to read the individual takes about players. I agree that you can be well informed about some of these kids years in advance of being drafted.
What I don’t agree with are these mock drafts like 3-4 years in advance. There are so many players at that point that you don’t know about. It’s also nearly impossible to accurately discuss strengths of a draft when you haven’t seen most of the full draft class play yet.
What I don’t agree with are these mock drafts like 3-4 years in advance. There are so many players at that point that you don’t know about. It’s also nearly impossible to accurately discuss strengths of a draft when you haven’t seen most of the full draft class play yet.
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Aaron Obobaifo looks like one to watch from Western Canada. Now playing at Shattuck.
Antiillafire
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Pobezal stands out to me a lot with the U18 project, but I’m not sure I would call him a top prospect, more so just interesting to follow right now. 3 pts in 6 matches in Slovakia2. Projecting along the lines of Chromiak imo
That info is wrong. He's definitely born 2007, not 2009.Draft 2027 (!)
Konstantin Hutzinger at eliteprospects.com
Right now the one Austrian worth mentioning in regard to this draft.
Bubbles
Die Hard for Bedard 2023
I just heard about this Matthew Hutchison kid from BC, who just won his first game in the BCHL as a 15 year old. He actually just turned 15 a few weeks ago.
15-year-old goalie Matthew Hutchison adds to his own lengthy hockey history with first BCHL win | The Province
Technically, only 16 year olds are allowed in the BCHL but he was an emergency call up. Made 51 saves.
15-year-old goalie Matthew Hutchison adds to his own lengthy hockey history with first BCHL win | The Province
Technically, only 16 year olds are allowed in the BCHL but he was an emergency call up. Made 51 saves.
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From Finland i have seen some pretty good players born in 2007. For example some forwards: Rasmus Kämäräinen (Jokerit), Niklas Grandell (Jokerit), Jasper Inkinen (Lukko), Aleksi Juusela (Ässät), Oiva Piipponen (TPS) and Urho Mattila (Kärpät). Best dmans from Finland are Alvar Ervasti (Kärpät) and Aaron Paju (TPS).
Antiillafire
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he has been drafted to Tri-City btw, he looks very skilled though. One of the players who look like can be a top end pick for 2025 but its 3-4 years out so there's alot that can change
we now know about two kids named Anton Frondell and Victor Eklund (sibling of William)
tobu
Registered User
whoever is the author of the table, can you once and or all learn the proper abbreviations for Slovakia? It's SVK, not SLO, which is in fact the IOC code for Slovenia.
OneSniffTwoSniff
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I've heard about a super talented kid that has the potential to be an generational player, if i remember right hes name is Waytoo Early
Antiillafire
Registered User
Pobezal is a top 10 talent imo. His production in Slovakia2 is about equivalent to a 0.9-PPG pace in the OHL. Plus a natural Center as well who play all situations
Martinez89
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I think the same. In that list I see many Czech and Slovak players overrated but that´s not a case of Pobezal. I saw most of his games this season and he is amazing. And his hand-eye coordination is very special, one of the best at a young player I´ve ever seen. It´s like Crosby-esque.
scoutman1
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the whole list and Gabriel D'Aigle is super underrated...this guy is the best out of U18 in Quebec in a long time.
Also maybe i passed his name but Jacob Rhyno Jacob Rhyno | Nova Scotia U15 Major (nsu15major.com)
Also maybe i passed his name but Jacob Rhyno Jacob Rhyno | Nova Scotia U15 Major (nsu15major.com)
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It's funny as I have never heard of the term wisenheimers despite being of German heritage and ironically I find that I resemble that remark.
Someone to keep an eye on for sure.
For a country of 5 million people , Slovakia sure seems to be pumping out talent recently.
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I saw him in PeeWee and my mind was blown. Was single-handedly taking down entire teams of “chosen ones” in Calgary PeeWee AA. Think I heard he was a super late starter and a multi sport kid.
And he totally showed up a 2006 kid while playing at Edge School who ended up being a 2nd rounder in the WHL draft.
