World Cup: 2024 World Cup - rosters

[Mathieukferland]

You have waaaay to many old players

They won’t be able to keep up with the Americans

Only 6 of the 18 outskating players are over 30,
I don’t find that to be that much of an issue and as long as they are producing, in Vancouver Canada had 7 over 30 and in salt lake they had 8. That being said if production drops off I’m all for picking younger, more in form players

 

[BigBadBoar]

Why no Krejci? Retired in 2024? Too old?

Galvas?

Do you think zacha would actually go?

Our rosters are very similar!

Yes, I think Zacha would go. He is kind of demonized in CZE, mainly because of some controversial steps of his father, but if he gains better confidence with Bruins, he is going to be a very good player and I believe he would accept the invitation.

Regarding Krejčí, he will be 38 in 2024. He would probably be retired.

Galvas: He might be an option if he earns a stable spot in the NHL, it is basically the same like with Král.

 

[Lartsaman]

Regarding Krejčí, he will be 38 in 2024. He would probably be retired.

I thought that the czech players don´t retire before they turn 50.

 

[PecnoTrunk]

“Established” was for “right now.” It’s hard to project two years out, during which time an unknown number of players could break out. If I had to give it a shot:

Quinn-McDavid-Marner
Huberdeau-Thomas-MacKinnon
Lafreniere-Crosby-Marchand
Point-Suzuki-McTavish
Batherson, Byfield

Byram-Makar
Chabot-Dobson
Power-Ekblad
Chychrun, Drysdale

Hart
Jarry
someone not under consideration right now

Pierre luc Dubois and cutourier and Sheffield and stone for size , we need size

 

[Czechboy]

Yes, I think Zacha would go. He is kind of demonized in CZE, mainly because of some controversial steps of his father, but if he gains better confidence with Bruins, he is going to be a very good player and I believe he would accept the invitation.

Regarding Krejčí, he will be 38 in 2024. He would probably be retired.

Galvas: He might be an option if he earns a stable spot in the NHL, it is basically the same like with Král.

Do we have any C's with good offence after Krejci and Hertl? I know we have lot's of C's but none of them feel like a legit Top 6 NHL C to me?

I don't know who is better between Galvas and Kral or if either will be an NHLer but Galvas should be full time this year on a poor Chicago team. Kral is probably good enough to make an NHL roster but he's on the Leafs and that will be tough.

 

[Blacephalon]

Pierre luc Dubois and cutourier and Sheffield and stone for size , we need size

Never heard of this guy, what team does he play for?

 

[BigBadBoar]

Do we have any C's with good offence after Krejci and Hertl? I know we have lot's of C's but none of them feel like a legit Top 6 NHL C to me?

I don't know who is better between Galvas and Kral or if either will be an NHLer but Galvas should be full time this year on a poor Chicago team. Kral is probably good enough to make an NHL roster but he's on the Leafs and that will be tough.

Zacha, Chytil ... Nečas can play C as well. None of them is an offensive top star, they are all rather hard working two way guys, but pretty decent ones.

 

[Goodman68]

Zacha, Chytil ... Nečas can play C as well. None of them is an offensive top star, they are all rather hard working two way guys, but pretty decent ones.

To me, after those two players, it seems like a rather significant drop in performance. At least that's how it seems so far. I still hope that all these players can improve their performance even more. Zacha like that looked like the best player on the pitch in some of the games I saw, but in maybe two weeks he was completely lackluster. Nečas would need to play center, but if the Canes really let him play center, that is not at all certain.

 

[CharlestownChiefsESC]

That's why I hate the NHL.

This league is too imperialistic and hurts ice hockey.

Rather than leaving a window for the IIHF to organize world championships in September, the NHL is looking to crush.

So let me get this straight, you hate them for doing the same thing the IIHF and IOC did to Canada and the US in the 60s and 70s by basically not letting their best players play.

 

[duul]

Hope by 2024 this Russia thing blows over and we can have an actual best-on-best.

 

[Belloco]

So let me get this straight, you hate them for doing the same thing the IIHF and IOC did to Canada and the US in the 60s and 70s by basically not letting their best players play.

When history is rewritten backwards...

 

[RorschachWJK]

Hope by 2024 this Russia thing blows over and we can have an actual best-on-best.

Zero chance of that happening. By 2034 things might be getting there but I wouldn't be surprised if it's going to be more like 2044.

 

[Lartsaman]

I´ll take a shot at Team Finland:

Lehkonen - Barkov - Rantanen
Teräväinen - Aho - Puljujärvi
Hintz - Granlund - Laine
Kakko - Lundell - Kapanen
Kotkaniemi, Manninen

Heiskanen - Ristolainen
Lindell - Hakanpää
Mikkola - Jokiharju
Lehtonen - Vatanen

Saros - Husso - Olkinuora

 

[Czechboy]

I´ll take a shot at Team Finland:

Lehkonen - Barkov - Rantanen
Teräväinen - Aho - Puljujärvi
Hintz - Granlund - Laine
Kakko - Lundell - Kapanen
Kotkaniemi, Manninen

Heiskanen - Ristolainen
Lindell - Hakanpää
Mikkola - Jokiharju
Lehtonen - Vatanen

Saros - Husso - Olkinuora

JP in top 6?

 

[Lartsaman]

JP in top 6?

He might play better with his old linemate Aho. Worth trying at least.

 

[jonlin]

I´ll take a shot at Team Finland:

Lehkonen - Barkov - Rantanen
Teräväinen - Aho - Puljujärvi
Hintz - Granlund - Laine
Kakko - Lundell - Kapanen
Kotkaniemi, Manninen

Heiskanen - Ristolainen
Lindell - Hakanpää
Mikkola - Jokiharju
Lehtonen - Vatanen

Saros - Husso - Olkinuora

Laine - Barkov - Rantanen
Teräväinen - Aho - Kakko
Granlund - Hintz - Kapanen
Lehkonen - Lundell - Puljujärvi

xtras, Donskoi, Manninen, Armia, Kotkaniemi

Lindell - Heiskanen
Mikkola - Ristolainen
Heinola - Hakanpää

Jokiharju, Välimäki, Thompson

Saros
Husso
Raanta

He might play better with his old linemate Aho. Worth trying at least.

I assume Kakko will be a lot better in 2yrs. Puljujärvi can grind on the 4th. He lacks finnishing ability.

 

[wetcoast]

Hope by 2024 this Russia thing blows over and we can have an actual best-on-best.

Sadly I doubt this will be the case.

 

[ORRFForever]

Sadly I doubt this will be the case.

Agree, but we can hope/pray - for everyone's sake.

 

[centipede2233]

the day Putin decided to invade Ukraine, is the day Russia got permabanned from all international competitions for atleast a couple of decades.

 

[NordiquesForeva]

All of Canada's best forwards are centers so I'm not worries about it - it's always been like that and it's always worked out.

Goalies, on the other hand, are a real concern.

I agree with you on the goaltending. Regarding the forwards though, since Yzerman assumed EGM duties for the 2010 OGs, Canada's forward group has been built from the center out...with the wingers (Iginla, Nash, Richards, Benn, Carter, Perry, Marleau) usually being fast (well, maybe not Perry), physical, defensively responsible, and good goal scorers. Any centers that were converted to the wing had played wing at some point before, and the remainder were natural wingers. There are no players of that caliber or style available at this point, besides someone like Marchand, Stone or Stamkos, who are all getting up there in age, or maybe Scheifele or Dubois (if converted to the wing). That's a bit of a dropoff, barring someone like Kyrou or Lafreniere continuing to step up their games this season.

The forward group, for the first time in a while, will likely be comprised of mostly centers and some playmaking-oriented wingers like Marner and Huberdeau, which can come with line formation challenges. Maybe not so much on NHL-sized ice, and of course our centers are outstanding, but something I'll be keeping my eye on.

 

[JAS 39 Gripen]

FIN
Hintz-Barkov-Rantanen
Laine-Aho-Teräväinen
Granlund-Lundell-Kakko
Lehkonen-Kotkaniemi/Haula-Armia
Kapanen/Puljujärvi

Heiskanen-Jokiharju
Lindell-Ristolainen
Mikkola-Hakanpää

Saros
Husso

Wow, aren’t they better than that? Huge drop-off after the Top 6 forwards and Top 3 defensemen + Saros….. but it’s Finland so they’ll get to the finals using their Sisu-magic

No, I heard Ukraine will replace them so everyone’s happy.

I really hope so!

 

[sr edler]

Russia wouldn't win any best-on-best tourney today anyways because their D group isn't good enough, and their two-way forwards aren't good enough. So this whole debate about "not a real best-on-best" is kinda moot anyways. While it's technically true, it's still largely moot. They probably wouldn't even medal.

You can't win these tourneys simply with flashy wingers and a world class goalie. And if you think Vasilevskiy would get the same or even similar support on the national team in the World Cup he gets with Tampa, think again. More likely he would get shell-shocked. Then they would have to throw in Shestyorkin, who would get mildly shell-shocked too.

By the way, what's the time-line on Kuznetsov's cocaine ban? Because they would need him 1) back, and 2) in a time machine to 2018 playoffs form, to even have a remote chance of beating a team like Canada, or even Finland.

All of this is not happening anyways because of non-sports.

I feel the US are a bit overrated too. Yeah their D group is looking real nice, but Kane is getting old and I wouldn't trust Jack Eichel to walk my dog if I had one. Though they would still likely medal. Way better overall composition than Russia.

 

[Hanji]

Russia wouldn't win any best-on-best tourney today anyways because their D group isn't good enough, and their two-way forwards aren't good enough. So this whole debate about "not a real best-on-best" is kinda moot anyways. While it's technically true, it's still largely moot. They probably wouldn't even medal.

You can't win these tourneys simply with flashy wingers and a world class goalie. And if you think Vasilevskiy would get the same or even similar support on the national team in the World Cup he gets with Tampa, think again. More likely he would get shell-shocked. Then they would have to throw in Shestyorkin, who would get mildly shell-shocked too.

By the way, what's the time-line on Kuznetsov's cocaine ban? Because they would need him 1) back, and 2) in a time machine to 2018 playoffs form, to even have a remote chance of beating a team like Canada, or even Finland.

All of this is not happening anyways because of non-sports.

I feel the US are a bit overrated too. Yeah their D group is looking real nice, but Kane is getting old and I wouldn't trust Jack Eichel to walk my dog if I had one. Though they would still likely medal. Way better overall composition than Russia.

I'd agree with you if the tourney was a Stanley Cup playoff style format..
But any one of CAN, USA, RUS, SWE and FIN could realistically win the World Cup. All of these teams can defeat eachother on any given day.

Hell, look at the Czechs at the 1998 olympics. They had the worst on-paper roster (defense, offense, two-way players) of all the upper tier teams. But they all bought into the team concept and gained momentum as the tourney progressed. And it wasn't like Hasek stole the final games against Canada and Russia. I'd argue Roy actually had a better game than Hasek in the semis.

A lot of it comes down to coaching, usage, chemistry, players accepting different roles, elimination matchups, luck, etc.
I mean would Sweden have won gold in 06 if they didn't purposely lose their last prelim game and had to face tougher competition in elimination? Who knows. The difference is razor thin.

 

[ORRFForever]

I agree with you on the goaltending. Regarding the forwards though, since Yzerman assumed EGM duties for the 2010 OGs, Canada's forward group has been built from the center out...with the wingers (Iginla, Nash, Richards, Benn, Carter, Perry, Marleau) usually being fast (well, maybe not Perry), physical, defensively responsible, and good goal scorers. Any centers that were converted to the wing had played wing at some point before, and the remainder were natural wingers. There are no players of that caliber or style available at this point, besides someone like Marchand, Stone or Stamkos, who are all getting up there in age, or maybe Scheifele or Dubois (if converted to the wing). That's a bit of a dropoff, barring someone like Kyrou or Lafreniere continuing to step up their games this season.

The forward group, for the first time in a while, will likely be comprised of mostly centers and some playmaking-oriented wingers like Marner and Huberdeau, which can come with line formation challenges. Maybe not so much on NHL-sized ice, and of course our centers are outstanding, but something I'll be keeping my eye on.

There is a drop off. Canada WAS (past tense) in a lull and it hurt. Thankfully we have a ton of high end forwards on their way.

We need young players to step up ASAP.

 

[Miro4Norris]

Wow, aren’t they better than that? Huge drop-off after the Top 6 forwards and Top 3 defensemen + Saros….. but it’s Finland so they’ll get to the finals using their Sisu-magic

Yeah they don't have more than 6 star players but 3rd line isn't concern for me because somehow Granlund is always elite when he plays for Finland, Kakko and Lundell should have development and they're all very good defensively so I feel like they can shut down anyone. 4th isn't good but they won't play much. Old Montreal line Lehky-Kotka-Armia can play 10 minutes a night. If Lehkonen plays like last season and especially in playoffs, he's one of the best defensive wingers.

Scoring will rely strongly on top2 lines (or maybe they put stars on three lines?) and d looks bad after Miro and Lindell but i can't see coach Jalonen's team Finland without good defense no matter who the names are.


Finland have had good success with much worse teams, actually I think Finland have never had better team than they will have on WC24.