Transfer: 2024 Summer Transfer Window - Closed Window Discussion

[Peen]

I'm here for this at the price.

He followed it up after saying that there’s no indication they’d be willing to let him go below the release clause

 

[KJS14]

I'm here for this at the price.

Chelsea are probably already lining up a 100M bid for him after seeing that we want him

 

[luiginb]

Sesko is overrated, hope he goes to Arsenal.

 

[robertmac43]

Chelsea are probably already lining up a 100M bid for him after seeing that we want him

I'm more down for this scenerio to play out lol

 

[Savant]

Sesko is overrated, hope he goes to Arsenal.

I just see Darwin Nunez similar red flags. I think he’s hit so good things going for him. He’s probably a good fit for what does because he’s tall but I don’t think he’s going to be an incredible goal scorer for them. Not sure he raises their ceiling too much

 

[erikhamren]

That means no Bruno or Isak to Arsenal. YES

 

[bluesfan94]

That means no Bruno or Isak to Arsenal. YES

It doesn’t preclude Bruno imo.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

I like Sesko a lot. Good deal if that's the price

 

[erikhamren]

It doesn’t preclude Bruno imo.

Bruno will cost 115 million, i dont think they will get him for that money now. Wish thinking from me tho

Btw how much is Arsenals budget? Im they can splash like 250 this window im worried

 

[Savant]

Bruno will cost 115 million, i dont think they will get him for that money now. Wish thinking from me tho

Btw how much is Arsenals budget? Im they can splash like 250 this window im worried

They’ve been spending in that range under Arteta recently. No reason to think they won’t again

 

[erikhamren]

They’ve been spending in that range under Arteta recently. No reason to think they won’t again

NOO, ok thx.

 

[cgf]

Looking like Sesko is getting closer to completion.

Idk, took Arteta unlocking Havertz for him to beat his Leverkusen numbers

#ChelseaWay

 

[bluesfan94]

Bruno will cost 115 million, i dont think they will get him for that money now. Wish thinking from me tho

Btw how much is Arsenals budget? Im they can splash like 250 this window im worried

Supposedly Newcastle is willing to negotiate off his release clause. But Arsenal can probably spend a decent chunk of change, especially given the predicted outgoings (Nketiah, Nelson, Ramsdale, etc.)

 

[S E P H]

Why are we getting rid of the good players and keeping the Johnsons, Kulusevskis and Bissoumas of the world

Are you talking about the Barca version of those players or Spurs? If so, Kulusevskis is one of the Spurs' best players quite easily. Even though he plays for the wanks, he's been one of my favourites for the past couple of seasons.

Wow, if that's the rumoured price. I was thinking 70 million for him.

 

[Peen]

Can we be objective on the Havertz thing

He put up 14/5 in all comps in 21-22. It was a bad 22-23. He went up to 14-7 this year. I don’t think he looked entirely different. He’s still good/bad/average at the same traits.

Better coach with a clear identity.

If he starts going up to 30+ in all comps, obviously that’s a significant level up

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

I just see Darwin Nunez similar red flags. I think he’s hit so good things going for him. He’s probably a good fit for what does because he’s tall but I don’t think he’s going to be an incredible goal scorer for them. Not sure he raises their ceiling too much

He had the highest shot conversion rate out of any U23 striker last season. 31%, while Hojlund who is second place had 27%. Small sample size and all, but that doesn't sound like Darwin, who had a 12% conversion rate last season.

 

[S E P H]

Supposedly Newcastle is willing to negotiate off his release clause. But Arsenal can probably spend a decent chunk of change, especially given the predicted outgoings (Nketiah, Nelson, Ramsdale, etc.)

Yeah, we have a lot of players that are going to be on the move like Ramsdale, Soares, Partey, El Neny (already gone), ESR, Tierney, Tavares, Marquinhos (rumours he might be going back to Brasil), Lokonga, and some others could be gone like Nketiah, Jesus, Nelson, and Zinchenko if Arsenal replaces them which see their minutes get reduced a lot in the future.

Can we be objective on the Havertz thing

He put up 14/5 in all comps in 21-22. It was a bad 22-23. He went up to 14-7 this year. I don’t think he looked entirely different. He’s still good/bad/average at the same traits.

Better coach with a clear identity.

If he starts going up to 30+ in all comps, obviously that’s a significant level up

To be fair to Kai, most of those numbers came predominately in the second half of the season. There is some hope if he continues the second half of this year to the entire year next season, we might be potentially looking at an 18/13 season.

 

[Jersey Fresh]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1796210088744452517

 

[Savant]

He had the highest shot conversion rate out of any U23 striker last season. 31%, while Hojlund who is second place had 27%. Small sample size and all, but that doesn't sound like Darwin, who had a 12% conversion rate last season.

Yeah and he out performed his xG by over a half dozen goals in doing so. Think there’s going to be some regression there, especially going to a new league, especially not being in a strike partnership for the first time in his career. Arsenal may not need him to to be like a 20 goal striker; (especially if they get him in a discount) , and that might not even be the expectation but I don’t think Sesko is the signing the way that gets them from 2 to 1, in the way that Rice was. I don’t think Sesko raises their ceiling as high as Rice did

 

[Paulie Gualtieri]

Yeah and he out performed his xG by over a half dozen goals in doing so. Think there’s going to be some regression there, especially going to a new league, especially not being in a strike partnership for the first time in his career. Arsenal may not need him to to be like a 20 goal striker; (especially if they get him in a discount) , and that might not even be the expectation but I don’t think Sesko is the signing the way that gets them from 2 to 1, in the way that Rice was. I don’t think Sesko raises their ceiling as high as Rice did

Outperforming xG could also mean that he's a great finisher. Kind of like what Sonny does every year. But as i said, very small sample size so far.

Did someone say he'd raise their ceiling more than Rice? I must have missed that.

I just didn't really understand your comparison to Darwin. You didn't really provide any context about that.

 

[Savant]

Did someone say he'd raise their ceiling more than Rice? I must have missed that.

I just didn't really understand your comparison to Darwin. You didn't really provide any context about that.

I mean, I dig both of these things earlier in the thread. I can do it again.

I think you are taking a guy with a small, weird sample size, and putting him in a tougher league in a formation that he has never played before. Obviously it’s a lot less risky if the price is low, but those are red flags to me

To me xG is an efficiency measure. I like people who are scoring right around their xG. Think it’s more predictable

 

[JeffreyLFC]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1796210088744452517

Kudus replacement?

Outperforming xG could also mean that he's a great finisher. Kind of like what Sonny does every year. But as i said, very small sample size so far.

Did someone say he'd raise their ceiling more than Rice? I must have missed that.

I just didn't really understand your comparison to Darwin. You didn't really provide any context about that.

I agree I don't see any any Comparable in term of their profile.
Although Darwin might be improve his finishing/ finishing xG next year (hard to be worse)

 

[Peen]

Yeah, we have a lot of players that are going to be on the move like Ramsdale, Soares, Partey, El Neny (already gone), ESR, Tierney, Tavares, Marquinhos (rumours he might be going back to Brasil), Lokonga, and some others could be gone like Nketiah, Jesus, Nelson, and Zinchenko if Arsenal replaces them which see their minutes get reduced a lot in the future.


To be fair to Kai, most of those numbers came predominately in the second half of the season. There is some hope if he continues the second half of this year to the entire year next season, we might be potentially looking at an 18/13 season.

Yeah so if you get that level of production over an entire season, I’ll be right here saying he’s taken a step.

But overall, this season didn’t feel dissimilar to me.

 

[bluesfan94]

Can we be objective on the Havertz thing

He put up 14/5 in all comps in 21-22. It was a bad 22-23. He went up to 14-7 this year. I don’t think he looked entirely different. He’s still good/bad/average at the same traits.

Better coach with a clear identity.

If he starts going up to 30+ in all comps, obviously that’s a significant level up

Sure, as long as we state that, objectively, he was a midfielder for half the season

Wow, if that's the rumoured price. I was thinking 70 million for him.

His release clause is below 70M

 

[Peen]

Sure, as long as we state that, objectively, he was a midfielder for half the season


His release clause is below 70M

He played a different position every week at Chelsea. I don’t think anyone’s debating where Havertz played at Arsenal