Doue is fantastic. Very very high potential.
PSG, United after him. Probably more. 60M asking price.
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PSG, United after him. Probably more. 60M asking price.
I get you will defend it at all costs, but my argument is when you're so close to the FFP, you gotta make better deals instead of "not spending to FFP," that was never my point. Spending 60 million on Havertz is still pretty bad when we could have gotten a mixture of players like Kudus and somebody else or straight-up a better player than Kai last window for around the same amount. We have to admit that Arsenal had a fairly fortunate injury list last season, but that will not be the case every season. We had Saliba healthy for about 99% of the season, Gabriel for 90% of the season, Saka for 90% of the season, etc. Havertz isn't replacing any of those compared to Kudus or getting an extra young talented CB besides just Kiwior.
I loved Havertz down the line, I love how riled up he makes opposing fans when he plays the villain, but that doesn't excuse him from missing 8-10 absolute sitters last season that could've helped Arsenal win the title. There was one during the first leg against Fulham where he should've scored and secured us three points and would've given us the title on GD...and all I am talking about is one extra goal. He has my full support, but that still doesn't mean Arsenal were intelligent to buy him, hell, now we are rumoured of getting a proper #9 which might take away some of his thunder as the false #9 last season, forcing him to play deeper in that Xhaka BxB role if Arteta sees him as a starting XI calibre player.
Thanks! If PSG is after him, not sure why he would want to join us over them.
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Kudus had fewer goals and fewer assists and is only a year younger, but I guess he would have made the team better this season because you said so. Which better players at Kai's positions were available for less money? Arsenal, by the way, also signed an extra young talented CB, he just happened to be injured the whole season. Having one extra squad player wouldn't have made that much of a difference.
You can point to a dozen players who missed opportunities that cost us points and potentially the title. Or who made a mistake and cost us the title. Or whatever else.
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Which benefits a player who is strong on counterattacks, which Arteta's system has less of an emphasis on. Kudus also tends to favor the right side, which is occupied by players a level or three beyond Kudus. Now, perhaps Kudus could have played the left 8, but comparing the two is a comparison of different technical and tactical profiles.
And I say this all as someone that would have liked to sign Kudus, both to provide cover for Ode/Saka and to offer a different tactical option off the bench as necessary.
I still would rather have Havertz.
Gyokeres very likely wouldn’t be the cheapest of the three options. In fact, he might be the most expensive. I would think Zirkzee would be the cheapest of the three. I would imagine Bologna’s financial situation isn’t as good as that of Sporting Lisbon or RB Leipzig and they also didn’t qualify for the CL as the other two clubs did. Additionally, Zirkzee’s contract is up in 2026 while the respective contracts of the other two aren’t up until 2028.
While I’ve always liked Zirkzee, but if I’m Arsenal and I can afford it I go for one of the other two though. You could argue all three players have some proving to do, but if I’m looking for a goalscorer it’d be Gyokeres or Sesko before Zirkzee.
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I think Bologna did qualify for UCL. Think Italy got (one of) the extra coefficient slot
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Sorry for the spam, but uhhhh...
Borussia Dortmund keen on Mason Greenwood as Man Utd push to sell
United are exploring all options for a permanent departure with Greenwood value around £40 millionwww.telegraph.co.uk
After the protests that signing Nmecha caused just for making some transphobic comments, it’s hard to see them sign Greenwood.
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It’s obviously all Saka or Odegaard’s fault for not winning you 1 more match. Farmers gunna farm
Yep. Next season there will be 5 Serie A & Bundesliga clubs in the CL.
I thought so too, but when I checked WhoScored they had them slated for the Europa League on their Serie A table. Not sure how much of a difference it makes with regards to Zirkzee’s price compared to those of Gyokeres and Sesko.
No, he would not have made this team better because "I said so." I mentioned Kudus because he can cover many possible injury positions being able to play as a #9, #10, and a #7. I also mentioned Kudus because he was 30 million cheaper and that money could've gone to somebody else...perhaps Arthur Vermeeren who went to Atletico for 18 million. Additionally, Timber isn't a CB for me, not that I can't see him being played there, but more for the reason that Arteta probably won't play him there until it is necessary.
I am not anti-Havertz, I am anti-spending 70 million for him when he showed nothing to be worth that amount, even this season which @cgf mentioned is one of the best he's shown since Leverkusen. Also, I am not blaming Havertz for "supposedly" losing us the title because he never did, but if he had been just a tad more clinical in the early goings, we could've won some of the games we drew and drawn some of the games we lost. I am not saying double digits here, but at most two matches where we needed a bit more skill. Man City had a secondary difference maker in Doku scoring some big goals here and there, we never had any of that with Kai until the last 2-3 months of the season.
From all my records, Bologna got the CL spot and why I would think it would be hard to poach him. For sure Sporting also made the CL since they won Portugal's Liga Title. Portuguese teams also are very shrewd businesses being able to make tons of money from unexpecting wealthy clubs, however, most of these are for high-potential players that have a crazy amount of hype. I am thinking of the likes of Felix (127 million), Enzo (121), Nunez (85), Dias (71), Goncalo (65), Bruno (65), and Ugarte (60) to name a few. Gyokeres isn't similar to these lot, he will still get a good transfer fee, but he is also a lot older and has bounced around many leagues including the EPL (Brighton who he never played a game for) with not a lot of talk about him. I think that lack of talk will keep his transfer fee down, while Zirkzee will be given "Hojlund" treatment I reckon from Bologna where they have no reason to sell him, except at an enormous fee.
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to be fair... you kinda gotta sell some folks with some value to get money in return
Unless you're Liverpool to Saudi I guess.
Unless you're Liverpool to Saudi I guess.
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Which players are you referring to? Richarlison can't be relied upon to stay fit. Lo Celso and Hojbjerg are free agents next summer. The rest are dead weight.
Selling Johnson would be foolish in my mind. His production was good and he can still improve even more.
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Yeah, you really have to take #s with a pinch of salt when they're being put up against EPL "defenses"
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Think Sesko would be a great option for Spurs right now, but there's been no indication they are interested.
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Spurs only get the players RBL willing to give away for free.
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