2024 NHL Draft: WE DID IT, CELEBRINI IS OURS!!!

[gaucholoco3]

Somehow I don't think the Oilers or Leafs have failed to win a Cup because of McDavid or Matthews.

You could point to the Defense of each of those teams but is it entirely on the D that Toronto has been in the bottom half of the league 4 out of the last 6 years in GA and Edmonton in 5 out of the last 6 years.

Neither team has been top 5 in goals against once in the last 6 seasons.

Having a 200ft 1C that can impact the game when not scoring is what wins in the playoffs.

 

[coooldude]

You could point to the Defense of each of those teams but is it entirely on the D that Toronto has been in the bottom half of the league 4 out of the last 6 years in GA and Edmonton in 5 out of the last 6 years.

Neither team has been top 5 in goals against once in the last 6 seasons.

Having a 200ft 1C that can impact the game when not scoring is what wins in the playoffs.

I'm not ready to say that I'd rather Celebrini-types than Auston Matthews or McJesus. But, in general, I do agree with you that the flashy scoring players in the draft aren't necessarily the ones that win cups. A Pietrangelo is worth more to his team than it looks like, and Toews might likely have been worth more to his team than Kane at the time. Having both certainly didn't hurt...

Then again, if you draft too much with that mentality, you might end up with Mike Rathje. (Man, what a bad draft year... I was hoping there was an obvious "better flashy pick" after him but you have Kasparaitis and Gonchar as better D but then a bunch of names you've never heard of... maybe Corey Stillman?)

 

[cheechoo]

Eye watering numbers.

FWIW (stolen from someones comment)

Ivan Demidov has 1.96 points per game in the MHL this season.

That leads U19 players in the MHL all time (min. five games played)

Kuznetsov (18yo) 1.88
Kucherov (18yo) 1.87
Michkov (17yo) 1.82

 

[StanleyCup2035]

Looks like a nice consolation prize, assuming Putin doesn't change rules and he's indeed allowed to leave after his current deal expires in April 2025

 

[DG93]

I would still prefer to grab one of the top D prospects if Macklin goes elsewhere. It's tough to draft wingers, albeit a very skilled winger, over defensemen when the Sharks' defense prospect pool is Mukh, a few possible 3rd pair guys, and crickets.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

There is no doubt at all Demidov has the pure skill to go 2OA but you can find skill wingers every single year (although maybe not at his talent level) but its extremely rare to find big defenseman (Silayev or Levshunov) or big centers (Lindstrom). Even if Lindstrom becomes a winger, he's a Tkachuk kinda player which you only find every few drafts.

That's just my view, and I wouldn't be too mad if we took Demidov 2OA cause our offensive would look insane in a few years. With that said though. I'd rather Grier continue to build the base of a team that you don't want to play in the playoffs.

 

[Harbessix]

I think my preference is to pick Lindstrom if we don’t get Celebrini and then use the Pittsburgh pick on the best available dman. That being said, I won’t be mad if we select Levshunov for example and use the Pittsburgh pick on someone like Iginla.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

I think my preference is to pick Lindstrom if we don’t get Celebrini and then use the Pittsburgh pick on the best available dman. That being said, I won’t be mad if we select Levshunov for example and use the Pittsburgh pick on someone like Iginla.

Exactly my thoughts.

Levshunov and Iginla would be a dream for me.

Lindstrom and Parekh would be a TON of fun too.

 

[Stewie Griffin]

PIT's pick is also sitting at 10OA right now, although they have the least games played in the league. If they trade Guentzel/Smith/etc. there's a real good chance we're drafting in the Catton/Parekh/Buium range while also having the first or second odds at 1OA.

As of right now this is how I think the draft would shake out in tiers if it was today based on different rankings. (Not my personal rankings
1. Celebrini
2-5: Lindstrom, Silayev, Levshunov, Demidov (just depends who's picking where)
6-10 : Dickinson, Eiserman, Yakemchuk, Catton, Helenius

And then it's a crap shoot. I've seen Parekh, Buium, and Iginla in top-10's but also at 20th. All if takes is one team to reach on a MBN or someone like that and we could walk out with two of the best players.

 

[Hodge]

Imagine walking out of this draft with Celebrini and Buium

 

[coooldude]

PIT's pick is also sitting at 10OA right now, although they have the least games played in the league. If they trade Guentzel/Smith/etc. there's a real good chance we're drafting in the Catton/Parekh/Buium range while also having the first or second odds at 1OA.

Tankathon does the points% for you -- PIT projecting to 15 as of now, and has been bouncing from 14-16.

They also have a semi-updated prospect list. if we're picking say 13-16, we'll have a likely chance at:
MBN, Connelly, Greentree, Iginla, Jiricek. At this point unless we're picking 11-13 I don't think we'll have a shot at Buium, Parekh, Catton... possibly not Iginla or Yakemchuk either. But things can change! If Iggy/Yakemchuk climb, then we have an outside shot at Catton or Parekh, an OK shot at Helenius if he's the one who drops, and we'll have Jiricek or MBN or Greentree or Artamonov to pick from. Not bad, not nearly as great as picking twice in the top 13.

 

[DG93]

PIT's pick is also sitting at 10OA right now, although they have the least games played in the league. If they trade Guentzel/Smith/etc. there's a real good chance we're drafting in the Catton/Parekh/Buium range while also having the first or second odds at 1OA.

As of right now this is how I think the draft would shake out in tiers if it was today based on different rankings. (Not my personal rankings
1. Celebrini
2-5: Lindstrom, Silayev, Levshunov, Demidov (just depends who's picking where)
6-10 : Dickinson, Eiserman, Yakemchuk, Catton, Helenius

And then it's a crap shoot. I've seen Parekh, Buium, and Iginla in top-10's but also at 20th. All if takes is one team to reach on a MBN or someone like that and we could walk out with two of the best players.

And then there's Jiricek as well who is very good (just dropping because of injury)...so if the Pens pick is 11-14, the Sharks should get a very good player there. Gotta hope Pens stay in that range!

 

[StanleyCup2035]

Bedard might return tonight. If they beat Penguins it's a double draft lottery bonus:

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[fasterthanlight]

bedard/carlsson/fantilli draft points percentage. somehow the tank is even harder this year...

 

[one2gamble]

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I still cannot fathom how those teams are worse than the Sharks. Its crazy to me.

Are we sure they arent throwing games

 

[TheBeard]

Anaheim should be so much better than they are.

 

[STL Shark]

I still cannot fathom how those teams are worse than the Sharks. Its crazy to me.

Are we sure they arent throwing games

That chart is from 2023 Draft. Showing that 2023 the bottom was .354 points percentage while this year that point percentage would just barely be 3rd worst.

 

[Barrie22]

Scary to think, 14 less games and Bedard still has not been passed as the leading scorer for rookies.

 

[Pete Taylor]

It is crazy how the Bottom 4 from last year, really is the exact same from last year. Can even go as far as saying bottom 10.

 

[fasterthanlight]

Bedard might return tonight. If they beat Penguins it's a double draft lottery bonus:

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LETS GO BEDSY I LOVE the HAWKS may HAWKS WIN forever!!!

 

[Stewie Griffin]

That's just too good to be true. Penguins are gonna blow out the Hawks and use that to start a run in which they win the cup. Sharks will drop 2 spots in the lottery and end up picking 4 and 32.

 

[sharski]

Anaheim should be so much better than they are.

Anaheim: "Thanks Dad"

 

[LilLeeroy]

Bedard coming back tonight for a 2 for 1 of gettting the Hawks a win and the Penguins a loss to help the Sharks. You can tell he definitely wanted to come here.

 

[wishman]

That's just too good to be true. Penguins are gonna blow out the Hawks and use that to start a run in which they win the cup. Sharks will drop 2 spots in the lottery and end up picking 4 and 32.

That's not even the worst case scenario. We drop to 4, Pittsburgh ends up at 11 but wins the lottery. They then go on a tear in '25 with Celebrini and their pick turns into #32 in 2025.

 

[Hodge]

Guentzel is out for a month too