HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[McGuires Corndog]

"A first paring 25 minute offensive defenseman that can play all situations would be a horrible pick"
-Hfboards

Buium would be a great pick, especially over Sennecke if that’s who their leaning towards as a FWD.

 

[GrandmaCookie]

Is there a single report that shows the Habs would take Buium over Demidov?

What I’m hearing on the Canadiens after the combine and ahead of their No. 5 pick at the draft

A rundown of some of the draft information and speculation we were able to gather on the Canadiens at the NHL scouting combine in Buffalo.

www.nytimes.com

Article by Arpon Basu, title says it all

• Ivan Demidov could be available at No. 5 for the Canadiens, though they might consider Cayden Lindstrom depending on other available players.
• Demidov's game-breaking abilities are recognized, but concerns exist about his playoff adaptation, skating, and size.
• Contractually, Demidov has one year left with SKA Saint Petersburg, potentially limiting his options for development in the KHL or forcing him back to the MHL.
• SKA Saint Petersburg's preference for keeping Demidov adds uncertainty, with pressure possibly influencing his decision.
• Canadiens weigh player profile scarcity heavily, alongside team building needs and the concept of best player available.
• Character is a significant factor; Lindstrom, Buium, and Parekh are noted for their strong character, with ongoing assessments of Demidov's character underway.

 

[Archijerej]

They are going to draft Buium then swap Guhle for Necas the same day. Everyone will lose their mind until a week later they realize it was the right thing to do.

Oh, so Buium is going to be able to step in and play 20+ minutes a night a week after the Guhle Necas trade?

Good to know.

 

[Jaynki]

The money line means more to me than any publicly available rankings. You'd be foolish to think there's not people in the know who are making a pretty penny off this.

The money line moves off the money flow tho. Not insider knowledge.

Ultimately, insider knowledge may make the money flow a certain way but not right now, i think.

 

[Team_Spirit]

Habs fan will riot if they pick Buium. That name sounds just like Bouillon. Imagine picking Bouillon over Demidov. On the plus side, it might help Carey remember his name this time.

Funny jokes

Fans will be just fine with Buium dw

 

[Jaynki]

Buium would be a great pick, especially over Sennecke if that’s who their leaning towards as a FWD.

He is a great pick as soon as #2

 

[vokiel]

Is there a single report that shows the Habs would take Buium over Demidov?

Is there one who doesn't ? You know there are no such things before the draft. I don't count attention whoring by a handful of influencers as reports.

 

[Jaynki]

I'd take buium over guhle pretty easily

Ainec. Why is this even a debate

 

[vokiel]

Buium would be a great pick, especially over Sennecke if that’s who their leaning towards as a FWD.

I can count lots of picks that would be better than Sennecke.

 

[Gravity]

What I’m hearing on the Canadiens after the combine and ahead of their No. 5 pick at the draft

A rundown of some of the draft information and speculation we were able to gather on the Canadiens at the NHL scouting combine in Buffalo.

www.nytimes.com

Article by Arpon Basu, title says it all

• Ivan Demidov could be available at No. 5 for the Canadiens, though they might consider Cayden Lindstrom depending on other available players.
• Demidov's game-breaking abilities are recognized, but concerns exist about his playoff adaptation, skating, and size.
• Contractually, Demidov has one year left with SKA Saint Petersburg, potentially limiting his options for development in the KHL or forcing him back to the MHL.
• SKA Saint Petersburg's preference for keeping Demidov adds uncertainty, with pressure possibly influencing his decision.
• Canadiens weigh player profile scarcity heavily, alongside team building needs and the concept of best player available.
• Character is a significant factor; Lindstrom, Buium, and Parekh are noted for their strong character, with ongoing assessments of Demidov's character underway.

Nothing here points to them taking Buium over Demidov. That just seems like an irrational hyperbole.

 

[McGuires Corndog]

I can count lots of picks that would be better than Sennecke.

Yeah about 10 of them. Lol

 

[The Last Red]

Buium only if Demidov and Lindstrom are gone at 5OA.

 

[Deebs]

Ainec. Why is this even a debate

Because Guhle is the better all around player. If it was just offence, then I'd agree with it, unfortunately sometimes Defensemen needs to play defense at a high level.

 

[Jaynki]

Because Guhle is the better all around player

We are all entitled to our opinion

 

[vokiel]

I'd take the dman who's already established before any prospect. You trade the ones who aren't established, unless you want to be in forever rebuild land.

 

[GrandmaCookie]

Nothing here points to them taking Buium over Demidov. That just seems like an irrational hyperbole.

Aarpon is reporting what he is hearing around the league and from Montreal.

"From a strictly hockey standpoint, the Canadiens recognize Demidov has game-breaking qualities they lack in the organization. But there is some doubt about whether his style would translate well to playoff hockey in the NHL. "

"But more than the strict hockey questions are the ones surrounding his status in Russia."

"Numerous conversations with scouts and team officials at the combine confirmed the Demidov situation is a total wild card. "

"But scarcity of player profile is not the only consideration for the Canadiens. It is a big one, though.

They also look at team building as a big factor, boxes they need to check as they eventually build a Stanley Cup contender, and also boxes they might have already checked to avoid redundancy down the line. This is why it seems like Buium and Parekh could be in the mix, because while Hutson could potentially check the box of elite puck-moving defenceman, there is no assurance he will. And even if he does, having two defencemen like that would not necessarily preclude the Canadiens from winning."

" This year, Lindstrom left a very good impression on the Canadiens, Buium and Parekh seem like strong-character guys"

I mean what we're you expecting, a statement from Kent Hughes himself stating he would draft Buium over Demidov?

 

[MonkeyBusiness]

Be prepared for them to take Buium over Demidov. Basu starting to socialize that to the fan base.

I'll crucify them myself. I let them off the hook on the Reinbacher pick because I liked the player and he filled a clear and dire need.

This one is indefensible.

I think Buium is definitely an option, and I get it, he's an exciting prospect. MO Beaudoin said that our first and second options were Demidov and Lindstrom, in that order. After that, Buium and/or Sennecke. I trust Beaudoin a lot more than Basu; the latter seems to be the type to throw shit at the wall hoping it sticks.

Last year, there was A TON of noise that we wouldn't draft Michkov. This year, I haven't seen anything like that with Demidov.

 

[Gravity]

Aarpon is reporting what he is hearing around the league and from Montreal.

"From a strictly hockey standpoint, the Canadiens recognize Demidov has game-breaking qualities they lack in the organization. But there is some doubt about whether his style would translate well to playoff hockey in the NHL. "

"But more than the strict hockey questions are the ones surrounding his status in Russia."

"Numerous conversations with scouts and team officials at the combine confirmed the Demidov situation is a total wild card. "

"But scarcity of player profile is not the only consideration for the Canadiens. It is a big one, though.

They also look at team building as a big factor, boxes they need to check as they eventually build a Stanley Cup contender, and also boxes they might have already checked to avoid redundancy down the line. This is why it seems like Buium and Parekh could be in the mix, because while Hutson could potentially check the box of elite puck-moving defenceman, there is no assurance he will. And even if he does, having two defencemen like that would not necessarily preclude the Canadiens from winning."

" This year, Lindstrom left a very good impression on the Canadiens, Buium and Parekh seem like strong-character guys"

I mean what we're you expecting, a statement from Kent Hughes himself stating he would draft Buium over Demidov?

Nothing even remotely pointing to Buium over Demidov. Buium and Parekh are in the mix but Demidov/Lindstrom are still the favorites.

I'd have rather preferred Michkov + Dickinson/Buium over Rein/Demidov either way. They galaxy brained the picks.

 

[ReHabs]

I hate the week before the draft when Arpon Basu is fed a few morsels by Kent Hughes but we have no choice but to doubt what he says because he has no scoops and no insight or anything interesting to share the other 50, 51 weeks of the year.

Is the Buium > Demidov stuff speculation, disinformation, or legit?

I guess we’ll see

 

[MasterMatt25]

Because Guhle is the better all around player. If it was just offence, then I'd agree with it, unfortunately sometimes Defensemen needs to play defense at a high level.

To be determined

 

[GrandmaCookie]

I think Buium is definitely an option, and I get it, he's an exciting prospect. MO Beaudoin said that our first and second options were Demidov and Lindstrom, in that order. After that, Buium and/or Sennecke. I trust Beaudoin a lot more than Basu; the latter seems to be the type to throw shit at the wall hoping it sticks.

Last year, there was A TON of noise that we wouldn't draft Michkov. This year, I haven't seen anything like that with Demidov.

I wouldn't go as far as saying this, Basu most certainly talks to NHL scouts and Montreal scout but he probably gets vanilla info. I agree Beaudoin might have got some inside info tho that wasn't supposed to reach the public, much more likely to leak these types of info than Basu.

 

[Gravity]

Because Guhle is the better all around player. If it was just offence, then I'd agree with it, unfortunately sometimes Defensemen needs to play defense at a high level.

Guhle tops out as a second pairing D. He has very little offense.

 

[PavelBrendl]

Markov was picked as a Center prospect in the 6th round. Completely different situation.

If they do indeed pick a LHD at 5, HuGo better have a trade ready to go to get a top 6 forward. And to relieve the log jam at LHD. They can only ice 3-4 lefties per game.

This will only hurt their development as there isn't enough ice time available for all the lefties.

I’m not talking about what Markov was drafted as, I’m talking about what Markov was. The perfect example of an elite defenceman who didn’t possess elite tools.

 

[le_sean]

Can’t wait until the McGill encampment moves to the Bell Centre after the Habs take Buium

 

[GrandmaCookie]

Nothing even remotely pointing to Buium over Demidov. Buium and Parekh are in the mix but Demidov/Lindstrom are still the favorites.

I'd have rather preferred Michkov + Dickinson/Buium over Rein/Demidov either way. They galaxy brained the picks.

Can't say I disagree here. But it would be because the gap between the D. As Demidov seems to be a better prospect than Michkov, who is still a great prospect nonetheless (going from what I heard, I never saw Demidov play only Michkov).