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Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%

  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%

  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%

  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%

  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%

  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%
  • Total voters
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May the odds be ever in your favor.....but it seems like Tij's fans won't happy.
 
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Habsrule said:
Just throwing it out there. For me there are two main targets at the draft; Demidov and Lindstrom. What happens if both are selected with the #2-4 picks? Would you be opposed to trading back if a team calls?

What if a team like Calgary calls and they offer 9 and 28 for 5?

Then use picks 26 and 28 to either move up in the draft or to pick up a roster player that fits the teams timeline.
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Who are the other two players besides Cele that were taken?
 
If I had to guess.. these are the paths to Demidov or Lindstrom

To Demidov:
SJS - Celebrini
CHI - Levshunov
ANA - Silayev
CBJ - Lindstrom

To Lindstrom:
SJS - Celebrini
CHI - Demidov
ANA - Levshunov
CBJ - Silayev
 
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6-foot-7 defenseman models game after Hedman of Lightning, played this season for Larionov in KHL
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Silayev, No. 1 on NHL Central Scouting's final ranking of International skaters eligible for the 2024 NHL Upper Deck NHL Draft at Sphere in Las Vegas on June 28-29, had the most points by an under-18 player in KHL history. The defenseman passed current NHL forward Vladimir Tarasenko.
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WeThreeKings said:
If I had to guess.. these are the paths to Demidov or Lindstrom

To Demidov:
SJS - Celebrini
CHI - Levshunov
ANA - Silayev
CBJ - Lindstrom

To Lindstrom:
SJS - Celebrini
CHI - Demidov
ANA - Levshunov
CBJ - Silayev
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Who knoes, maybe Timmins and CLB might be tempted by Dickinson!

Dickinson-Jiricek would be a very very good pairing for them for years to come. That would be logical.
 
SannywithoutCompy said:
No offense but that's an insane argument to me. It's a team sport, and Karlsson was his team for many of those years. Would you hold it against Lemieux that he only made the playoffs once in his first 6 seasons in a league where 16 of 21 teams make it?

As for his 100 point season, he absolutely made his team better when he was out there. Barring empty net goals, he was even in plus minus which is pretty impressive in and of itself on a team with a -82 goal differential.

As for the Pittsburgh argument, they have an aging roster, it's not really surprising to see a fall off at some point.
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I have never seen lower expectations for a star player.

But to each their own.
 
Sam de Mtl said:
Crazy to me that anyone would pick Karlson ahead of Pietrangelo. Winning the Cup is the whole point of this game and Pietrangelo did it twice to Karlson's zero. And it's not just numbers of cups. Karlsson had long playoff runs only twice in his career. Once in Ottawa, in his best season of his career, the only season I could see an argument for wanting Karlsson ahead of Pie. Then in his first season in San Jose, which was still a good team then.

In terms of making his team better, he arguably did it for most of his Ottawa years, although there was still not much playoff success for them.

Since then, San Jose had the same record before Karlsson to the year he came on board. Then the wagon fell off, which isn't his fault necessarily, but he didn't make them better either. His 100 point season, you can decide to view as you wish. To me, it was a joke of a season for a player who didn't take his team and responsibilities seriously. And San Jose was so bad this season, it would be hard to argue his 100 point season made his team any better. This year Pittsburgh was even worse than last year without him. For a guy you need to pay assets to get, he certainly doesn't improve your team much.
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You can’t win a cup when you’re on crap teams. Is Gilbert Dionne better than Marcel? And let me introduce you to Carey Price.

Flip the teams around. Does Pietrangelo win a cup on those Ottawa clubs? Of course not.
 
With more and more viewings of the Top 15-ish prospects, I'm becoming increasingly comfortable and intrigued by Sennecke at 5. His production was as good as Iginla's in the last half of the season and I feel he's still pretty raw - there's a lot to bring out in his game and he could be a real star. I think I'd still prefer Lindstrom or Demidov, but I'd be good if we end up with Sennecke.
 
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I wonder how big of a voice Timmins has in the Jacket's staff. We know he loves his Dmen and he's better pretty good at picking them historically. This might be the true wildcard in the whole thing. I could definitely picture him being crazy about Dickinson or Silayev and pushing pretty hard in that direction.
 
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WeThreeKings said:
I agree with @DramaticGloveSave that Buium is getting overrated. If you have questions on Hutsons offense translating, you should have the same questions about Buiums as Buium creates offense in much the same way but Hutson does it with greater effectiveness and with a higher quality than Buium.

Buiums point totals are high and inflated by his team. He's still a great point producer but being mentioned like Makar, just no. Makar was always seen as dynamic with insane skating, his competition was just so poor that it caused hesitancy on whether it looked better than what it was due to quality of competition.

Buium is 6'0 so he's average height. His skating is not great same thing as Lane the edges and agility are great but the straight line speed isn't great. Buium isn't physical or intimidating. He's got 2nd pair offense and 2nd pair defense. He's a good player but he's a bit of a weird study. He doesn't play PP over Lane and can't play with Lane since they both do the same things. He doesn't play PK over Guhle or Xhekaj or Reinbacher or struble etc.

A top 5 pick on a guy who isn't going to be on pp1 or pk1, it's just an odd fit. Even Cam Robinson who loves the kid said on a podcast that he's likely not a pp1 guy and is more of your 40 pt defenseman in the NHL.
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That’s what I don’t get about the Buium desire. We already got Buium and it didn’t cost the team a 5th overall pick.
 
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Pompeius Magnus said:
I wonder how big of a voice Timmins has in the Jacket's staff. We know he loves his Dmen and he's better pretty good at picking them historically. This might be the true wildcard in the whole thing. I could definitely picture him being crazy about Dickinson or Silayev and pushing pretty hard in that direction.
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I've stated for months now even before the draft lottery that I have a feeling the blue jackets will end up with Lindstrom. They badly need a 2C going forward as all their young guys drafted since 2021 either are better on the wing like johnson or aren't good enough for 2C like sillanger. Worenski, Jiricek, Mateychuk is a fine top 3. They can also always sign another top 4 D. But they need talent up front badly especially will Laine leaving soon
 
le_sean said:
I think Lindstrom was just +1800 to be the 2nd pick. With the Hawks only having small forwards, I don’t think it’s out of the realm of possibility
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That’s interesting. He’s definitely not a 2OA talent in this draft but as a total profile with the size queens and the fact Bedard isn’t big… I could see it. If his back is fine and he aces the interviews, why not?
 
xX SEYF Xx said:
this thread past 2 days:
  • some draft talk
  • some Pietrangelo vs Karlsson argument
  • some draft talk
  • more Pietrangelo vs Karlsson argument
  • other old Ds argument
  • some draft talk
  • some Norris trophy argument
  • more Pietrangelo vs Eriksson argument
  • some man mountain argument
  • some draft talk
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The reality is that we’ve been having this discussion for months. And we’re STILL weeks away from the draft.

There’s only so many ways you can analyze the draft. :laugh:
 
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ReHabs said:
That’s interesting. He’s definitely not a 2OA talent in this draft but as a total profile with the size queens and the fact Bedard isn’t big… I could see it. If his back is fine and he aces the interviews, why not?
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Levshunov makes more sense to me but I guess we’ll see. It’s all over the place.
 
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Pompeius Magnus said:
I'm leaning Iginla as I said, maybe even in front of Demidov if I'm being honest. I see legit big moments player potential in him, he just has that '' aura''. He has the moxie to play in the Montreal market too, I don't see him getting intimidated by it at all, he seems super solid between the ears.
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I'm also a big Iggy stan. He's a player that makes things happen no matter what happens, and the potential growth is massive because he's so young and relatively untested compared to his peers.
 
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xX SEYF Xx said:
this thread past 2 days:
  • some draft talk
  • some Pietrangelo vs Karlsson argument
  • some draft talk
  • more Pietrangelo vs Karlsson argument
  • other old Ds argument
  • some draft talk
  • some Norris trophy argument
  • more Pietrangelo vs Eriksson argument
  • some man mountain argument
  • some draft talk
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Haha ok I'm Guilty 🤣

Still, what more can be talked about when no hockey is being played anywhere?

More fascinating to me is how Demidov rankings keep on changing even though there is no hockey being played and no new info coming out. Just a heavy usage of rumors and fake insider info.
 
Mrb1p said:
I'm also a big Iggy stan. He's a player that makes things happen no matter what happens, and the potential growth is massive because he's so young and relatively untested compared to his peers.
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if we got him or Lidstrom, you’re looking at a goal scorer which I’m very happy with. We can certainly use more of that.
 
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