HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Gainesvillain]

You know that body fat measurement was nowhere near correct right?

Were you there checking the calibration of the equipment or something?

Even if not correct in absolute terms, there's no reason to doubt Dickinson's body fat % was at the extreme low end of all the prospects at the combine.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Were you there checking the calibration of the equipment or something?

Even if not correct in absolute terms, there's no reason to doubt Dickinson's body fat % was at the extreme low end of all the prospects at the combine.

No but I'm also aware that a 3.64% body fat would have someone at death's door.

 

[NotProkofievian]

Were you there checking the calibration of the equipment or something?

Even if not correct in absolute terms, there's no reason to doubt Dickinson's body fat % was at the extreme low end of all the prospects at the combine.

There's no reason to believe it either. 3.64% is stage ready, split hamstrings, striated glutes, christmas tree lats, the whole 9. It was a misread.

 

[Hammer Slammer]

Prospect Shifts

Quality shift-by-shift and highlight videos on draft eligible prospects

www.youtube.com

don't know who's channel that is but it looks like a possible gold mine for shift by shift vids. That is a f***ing shit ton of hours spent for pennies unless like Grant and others that can afford it and just pay Instat their huge fees to do the work for them. So I thought I would post this persons link to hopefully get them some views.

That's me! Thank you for posting. I had a subscription-based website back before covid that did okay but still not that great. I just find it fun to watch the prospects while I'm editing things down so the amount of work is worth it for me. I don't really care if I make anything or not. YouTube is more fun than running a website, I will say that. Fun to have everything public and see all the views/comments come in.

I pay for lots of league subscriptions and edit everything myself. Instat took some of my editing side work away when some junior teams and rich hockey parents realized they could just use that instead so I have no love for them haha.

Enjoy!!

 

[Locks]

I won't mention him in the same sentence than Makar. Of course not. But product of his team? Yes, Denver...really offensive team. Yet, a guy like Sean Behrens at 20 had 31 points. And brother Buium at 20 had 36. Both 2nd rounders. I have no idea how we can downgrade what Zeev did. There's 1 Makar. Just like there's 1 McDavid. But not being Makar does not mean you can't be top 5 or top 10. What Zeev did is remarkable. Having said that...in the end, he won't be my No1 d-man on my final list. But he'll be making top 10 for sure.

Very good point. Makar will likely emerge as this generation's offensive dman, the successor of Erik Karlsson. I don't know why some posters feel compelled to compare Buium to him. That said, I am pleased that Arpon reported that Habs really like Zeev. I don't have enough viewings of say, Dickinson, to really rank the Ds that are expected to be available at 5, but Buium should absolutely be among the top candidates. I feel he can, in the best-case scenario, bring what the Habs don't have in the system right now: the successor of Markov/PK. Yes, Guhle and Reinbacker are legit top paring material. Lane has the skills to be that great QB. But none of them appear to have the potential to be that all-around #1. Together, the current group of young Ds and D prospects has all the attributes needed: from mobility to defensive acumen to physicality to offence. Given this talented and diverse group, it is not critical for the habs to have an all-around number one D so I still prefer a forward. But if Demidov and Lindstrom are off the table, Zeev should be among the top choices to consider, and if we go by Arpon's info, he likely is.

 

[Habs Halifax]

I got this feeling that we will trade down to 8-13 range and we plan on trading the extra piece we get (with the Jets 1st) to get another pick in the same range. Other pieces probably required.

We get two from this list:
* Iggy
* Eiserman
* Sennecke
* Helanius

 

[Troyp]

That's me! Thank you for posting. I had a subscription-based website back before covid that did okay but still not that great. I just find it fun to watch the prospects while I'm editing things down so the amount of work is worth it for me. I don't really care if I make anything or not. YouTube is more fun than running a website, I will say that. Fun to have everything public and see all the views/comments come in.

I pay for lots of league subscriptions and edit everything myself. Instat took some of my editing side work away when some junior teams and rich hockey parents realized they could just use that instead so I have no love for them haha.

Enjoy!!

Been watching your channel for awhile now, amazing work. Love how you spotlight the player at the start of the shift too

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Buium is a 2nd pairing guy with 40 point upside? lol Now I've heard it all.

 

[Habssince89]

If I had to guess.. these are the paths to Demidov or Lindstrom

To Demidov:
SJS - Celebrini
CHI - Levshunov
ANA - Silayev
CBJ - Lindstrom

To Lindstrom:
SJS - Celebrini
CHI - Demidov
ANA - Levshunov
CBJ - Silayev

I could also see the first path happening but CLB takes Demidov

 

[WeThreeKings]

I could also see the first path happening but CLB takes Demidov

Doesn't sound likely.

 

[Habssince89]

Doesn't sound likely.

Why? I could totally see CLB just like MTL having a dilemma of choosing between the two, and given Demidov's potential and skill its not far-fetched at all to imagine the jackets running to the podium because a player who could've gone 2nd is available at 4. I think it is more likely Lindstrom gets picked in that scenario, but they aren't going to ignore Demidov. It would definitely have a chance of going either way.

 

[Jaynki]

Why? I could totally see CLB just like MTL having a dilemma of choosing between the two, and given Demidov's potential and skill its not far-fetched at all to imagine the jackets running to the podium because a player who could've gone 2nd is available at 4. I think it is more likely Lindstrom gets picked in that scenario, but they aren't going to ignore Demidov. It would definitely have a chance of going either way.

that is true for like 8 players

 

[WeThreeKings]

Why? I could totally see CLB just like MTL having a dilemma of choosing between the two, and given Demidov's potential and skill its not far-fetched at all to imagine the jackets running to the podium because a player who could've gone 2nd is available at 4. I think it is more likely Lindstrom gets picked in that scenario, but they aren't going to ignore Demidov. It would definitely have a chance of going either way.

Given the choice between a smaller winger from Russia to the large, mean, potential canadian center.. most franchises will take the Canadian center, especially a team like CBJ which has nothing behind Fantilli.

 

[Habssince89]

that is true for like 8 players

Right, but Demidov is among them, and he's the only forward that is true for. What I'm saying is CLB is not guaranteed to automatically take Lindstrom if both he and Demidov are on the board.

Given the choice between a smaller winger from Russia to the large, mean, potential canadian center.. most franchises will take the Canadian center, especially a team like CBJ which has nothing behind Fantilli.

Again, I agree this is the more likely scenario to play out, but the quality of Demidov will be at least considered before they decide their final choice.

 

[Jaynki]

Right, but Demidov is among them, and he's the only forward that is true for. What I'm saying is CLB is not guaranteed to automatically take Lindstrom if both he and Demidov are on the board.


Again, I agree this is the more likely scenario to play out, but the quality of Demidov will be at least considered before they decide their final choice.

Sennecke and Iginla are other forward who could be selected ahead of Demidov and Lindstrom

 

[Kents polished head]

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May the odds be ever in your favor.....but it seems like Tij's fans won't happy.

Meh. I'm a huge fan of Iginla and I'm not really pissed. I expected it.

For some reason this organization is never going to go the easy route.

A guy who's a really projectable 30 goals 30 assists sniper with a good all-around game? Nah. Better take the mystery box. Who knows. It might just end up being a 31 goals 31 assists player.

At this point I'm not even sure we would pick Demidov if he fell to 5. Wayyyyy too simple.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

Scout's Analysis: Ranking the top 70 prospects for the 2024 NHL Draft

In his final prospect rankings for this season, Jason Bukala presents a list of the top 70 players available at the 2024 NHL Draft.

www.sportsnet.ca

I don't know if this one has been posted already, sorry if it's a repeat. Bukala was a long time scout in various roles, so he does have some credibility. He has Iginla in front if all the other forwards not named Celebrini or Demidov.

 

[Mrb1p]

Were you there checking the calibration of the equipment or something?

Even if not correct in absolute terms, there's no reason to doubt Dickinson's body fat % was at the extreme low end of all the prospects at the combine.

Why should we trust this? 3.64 is Andreas Münzer territory. Most Mr. olympia don't even get that low.

 

[Kents polished head]

Why should we trust this? 3.64 is Andreas Münzer territory. Most Mr. olympia don't even get that low.

I'm 99% sure they did the test with bodyfat calipers. Most calculus using those give some outrageously low numbers.

Last time I got tested I got like 8% and there's no way I was sub-12-13%. In fact I probably was closer to 15%.

Anyway. Most tests are off. The only way to know the exact bodyfat of a person is to cut him open. By all means, the number is only good for comparison and progression purposes.

This is still impressive though, as based on the number of other prospects, it seems like he was pretty easily the leanest of the bunch being over 200 pounds as an 18 years old.

 

[Pompeius Magnus]

I'm 99% sure they did the test with bodyfat calipers. Most calculus using those give some outrageously low numbers.

Last time I got tested I got like 8% and there's no way I was sub-12-13%. In fact I probably was closer to 15%.

Anyway. Most tests are off. The only way to know the exact bodyfat of a person is to cut him open. By all means, the number is only good for comparison and progression purposes.

This is still impressive though, as based on the number of other prospects, it seems like he was pretty easily the leanest of the bunch being over 200 pounds as an 18 years old.

He's in shape, we know that much, all you have to do is look at him.

 

[phillytennis]

You can pencil Iginla on the starting lineup of any team that picks him in the season 2025-2026. Dream player beside a guy like Dach...

I like these combination of players with our 5th and 26th picks:
1. Demidov and Surin
2. Lindstrom and Basha
3. Iginla and Beaudoin
4. Sennecke and Cole Hudson or Sasha Boisvert

 

[McGuires Corndog]

https://x.com/i/web/status/1800890812001038375

Would be highly in consideration for me at pick 26

 

[crosbyshow]

Question for you guys.

We know that the 7th , 10th and 11th picks could be in play;

Ottawa
New Jersey
Buffalo.

We know also that a pick in the top 10 is very very expensive:

Let's say that Hughes would want another pick in the top 11 to be able to draft 2 forwards or 1d and 1 forward....;

Would you trade Mike Matheson for one of those 3 picks?

 

[Spearmint Rhino]

Question for you guys.

We know that the 7th , 10th and 11th picks could be in play;

Ottawa
New Jersey
Buffalo.

We know also that a pick in the top 10 is very very expensive:

Let's say that Hughes would want another pick in the top 11 to be able to draft 2 forwards or 1d and 1 forward....;

Would you trade Mike Matheson for one of those 3 picks?

Yes and would pay for his Uber to the airport - he’s been great, better than expected but he’s at where we should’ve dealt Petry to maximize value and we aren’t competing next couple of years

 

[Sam I Am]

Question for you guys.

We know that the 7th , 10th and 11th picks could be in play;

Ottawa
New Jersey
Buffalo.

We know also that a pick in the top 10 is very very expensive:

Let's say that Hughes would want another pick in the top 11 to be able to draft 2 forwards or 1d and 1 forward....;

Would you trade Mike Matheson for one of those 3 picks?

Matheson alone for one of those picks? Sure, if a prospect of interest is still on the board. Of the players who may realistically be available, one of Catton, Sennecke, Yakemchuk would be wonderful.

Of course, any the top ranked guys would be great should he fall to the 7th, 10th or 11th spot.

Pretty sure that that the Habs would have to add another asset in the deal, particularly for the 7th overall