HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

Who do you want at #5?

  • Tij Iginla

    Votes: 209 49.5%
  • Cole Eiserman

    Votes: 14 3.3%
  • Berkly Catton

    Votes: 92 21.8%
  • Konsta Helenius

    Votes: 13 3.1%
  • Beckett Sennecke

    Votes: 75 17.8%
  • Zayne Parekh

    Votes: 19 4.5%

  • Total voters
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CaptnNemo

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My prediction is we're picking 2 studs at 5 and in between 10-15 because somehow.

We almost make the playoffs this year with no major injuries like last year

We pick next year's draft between 12-16
We draft an other stud.

2025-26 season unfortunately we are again hit with some major injuries which results in finishing 3rd to last

We win the lottery draft Bedard's cousin.
We make the playoffs second round.

2026-27 We win our first modern era cup which starts a dynasty with 4 more in the next 10 years...

And then I wake up!😁

Wouldn't it be nice though! Lolll
 
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Pompeius Magnus

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Fire-in-the eyeness assessment
Levshunov 2/10, missing his old man nap in the afternoon
Lindstrom 7/10, so hot right now
Buium 18/10, Ramsay Bolton level off-the-charts
Celebrini 4/10, but f'in regal (he IS the Senate)
Iginla "Did Not Test", busy flying like Pegasus
Give the dude a break, he's got a wife and two kids back home, he's doing his freaking best :confused:
 

SannywithoutCompy

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Crazy to me that anyone would pick Karlson ahead of Pietrangelo. Winning the Cup is the whole point of this game and Pietrangelo did it twice to Karlson's zero. And it's not just numbers of cups. Karlsson had long playoff runs only twice in his career. Once in Ottawa, in his best season of his career, the only season I could see an argument for wanting Karlsson ahead of Pie. Then in his first season in San Jose, which was still a good team then.

In terms of making his team better, he arguably did it for most of his Ottawa years, although there was still not much playoff success for them.

Since then, San Jose had the same record before Karlsson to the year he came on board. Then the wagon fell off, which isn't his fault necessarily, but he didn't make them better either. His 100 point season, you can decide to view as you wish. To me, it was a joke of a season for a player who didn't take his team and responsibilities seriously. And San Jose was so bad this season, it would be hard to argue his 100 point season made his team any better. This year Pittsburgh was even worse than last year without him. For a guy you need to pay assets to get, he certainly doesn't improve your team much.
No offense but that's an insane argument to me. It's a team sport, and Karlsson was his team for many of those years. Would you hold it against Lemieux that he only made the playoffs once in his first 6 seasons in a league where 16 of 21 teams make it?

As for his 100 point season, he absolutely made his team better when he was out there. Barring empty net goals, he was even in plus minus which is pretty impressive in and of itself on a team with a -82 goal differential.

As for the Pittsburgh argument, they have an aging roster, it's not really surprising to see a fall off at some point.
 

Whitesnake

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Question is this....I don't think there's any doubt that Demidov or Lindstrom would be the habs pick if available. Now...if they are both gone....the question for the next 5 years will be...Iginla or Sennecke. That would be what I think the Habs won't want to deal with. The sure bet that might have a lower ceiling vs the risk that might just have the greatest ceiling of them all.

And then, please Habs....don't Mesar the pick at 26.....there will be some really interesting players there at that rank.
 

Whitesnake

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I agree with @DramaticGloveSave that Buium is getting overrated. If you have questions on Hutsons offense translating, you should have the same questions about Buiums as Buium creates offense in much the same way but Hutson does it with greater effectiveness and with a higher quality than Buium.

Buiums point totals are high and inflated by his team. He's still a great point producer but being mentioned like Makar, just no. Makar was always seen as dynamic with insane skating, his competition was just so poor that it caused hesitancy on whether it looked better than what it was due to quality of competition.

Buium is 6'0 so he's average height. His skating is not great same thing as Lane the edges and agility are great but the straight line speed isn't great. Buium isn't physical or intimidating. He's got 2nd pair offense and 2nd pair defense. He's a good player but he's a bit of a weird study. He doesn't play PP over Lane and can't play with Lane since they both do the same things. He doesn't play PK over Guhle or Xhekaj or Reinbacher or struble etc.

A top 5 pick on a guy who isn't going to be on pp1 or pk1, it's just an odd fit. Even Cam Robinson who loves the kid said on a podcast that he's likely not a pp1 guy and is more of your 40 pt defenseman in the NHL.
I won't mention him in the same sentence than Makar. Of course not. But product of his team? Yes, Denver...really offensive team. Yet, a guy like Sean Behrens at 20 had 31 points. And brother Buium at 20 had 36. Both 2nd rounders. I have no idea how we can downgrade what Zeev did. There's 1 Makar. Just like there's 1 McDavid. But not being Makar does not mean you can't be top 5 or top 10. What Zeev did is remarkable. Having said that...in the end, he won't be my No1 d-man on my final list. But he'll be making top 10 for sure.
 
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Pompeius Magnus

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Question is this....I don't think there's any doubt that Demidov or Lindstrom would be the habs pick if available. Now...if they are both gone....the question for the next 5 years will be...Iginla or Sennecke. That would be what I think the Habs won't want to deal with. The sure bet that might have a lower ceiling vs the risk that might just have the greatest ceiling of them all.

And then, please Habs....don't Mesar the pick at 26.....there will be some really interesting players there at that rank.
It's an interesting dilemma for sure, both players have their pros and cons. My boring but accurate answer is that I'd be happy with either of the two. I'd also be happy with Dickinson, Buium or even Helenius. I'm an easy guy to please I guess :laugh: I might be leaning Iginla, if only because we could right a wrong in not picking his dad back in the day when we had the chance. Can't forget about Catton either, he's hella talented.
 
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Whitesnake

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It's an interesting dilemma for sure, both players have their pros and cons. My boring but accurate answer is that I'd be happy with either of the two. I'd also be happy with Dickinson, Buium or even Helenius. I'm an easy guy to please I guess :laugh: I might be leaning Iginla, if only because we could right a wrong in not picking his dad back in the day when we had the chance.
Frankly this year...I will probably just say...well....okay? LOL. No matter who we pick. Though at 5, I will have a harder time with Eiserman and Helenius. First one because of how unidimensional he is, and Helenius just because he is a meh pick to me. But then meh picks can do great thinks. I wasn't THAT enthusiastic with Lundell. And geez is Florida happy with him right now.

My 3 favorite picks for habs right now (if Demidov and Lindstrom are gone) are Iginla, Dickinson and Sennecke. In order.
 

DramaticGloveSave

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His production is overrated? Lol he just posted the best season by a draft eligible D of all time in the NCAA. He more than doubled Makar’s D+1 production, and bested Quinn Hughes’ D+1 production by 17 points. You can have your opinion on the player, but that is just a dumb statement; there’s no way around it.
You obviously didn’t understand what I said lol
 

Pompeius Magnus

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Frankly this year...I will probably just say...well....okay? LOL. No matter who we pick. Though at 5, I will have a harder time with Eiserman and Helenius. First one because of how unidimensional he is, and Helenius just because he is a meh pick to me. But then meh picks can do great thinks. I wasn't THAT enthusiastic with Lundell. And geez is Florida happy with him right now.

My 3 favorite picks for habs right now (if Demidov and Lindstrom are gone) are Iginla, Dickinson and Sennecke. In order.
I'm leaning Iginla as I said, maybe even in front of Demidov if I'm being honest. I see legit big moments player potential in him, he just has that '' aura''. He has the moxie to play in the Montreal market too, I don't see him getting intimidated by it at all, he seems super solid between the ears.
 

Habs Halifax

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I'm leaning Iginla as I said, maybe even in front of Demidov if I'm being honest. I see legit big moments player potential in him, he just has that '' aura''. He has the moxie to play in the Montreal market too, I don't see him getting intimidated by it at all, he seems super solid between the ears.

Same with me. I think Iggy becomes a better all around player and shows up in the playoffs. Type of player who fits in our core well and does what he needs to do for the team. This kid is just starting to show signs of breaking out.
 

Habsrule

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Just throwing it out there. For me there are two main targets at the draft; Demidov and Lindstrom. What happens if both are selected with the #2-4 picks? Would you be opposed to trading back if a team calls?

What if a team like Calgary calls and they offer 9 and 28 for 5?

Then use picks 26 and 28 to either move up in the draft or to pick up a roster player that fits the teams timeline.
 

NotProkofievian

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Just throwing it out there. For me there are two main targets at the draft; Demidov and Lindstrom. What happens if both are selected with the #2-4 picks? Would you be opposed to trading back if a team calls?

What if a team like Calgary calls and they offer 9 and 28 for 5?

Then use picks 26 and 28 to either move up in the draft or to pick up a roster player that fits the teams timeline.

Good year to trade back IMHO.
 
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