HF Habs: 2024 NHL Draft Thread

[Goldthorpe]

Engels saying the habs will consider Demidov. Last year he said they wouldn’t take Michkov.

Even last year there were reports that the habs scouts were really high on Demidov.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

They don't care about fan vitriol, they care about sponsor vitriol and I don't think sponsors and people with large stakes in the franchise are gonna want Molson to have to explain why their hockey operations chose to select another player in the first round with an incident.

They're not touching Trevor Connelly and it's an easy decision, he's not nearly a good enough prospect for them to consider it. I can guarantee you that Chicago, Arizona and Boston won't be touching him either.

I really doubt the sponsors will care that much. If we climb the standings post ASG and end up with a pick around 10, and they deem him to be BPA I don't think they'd let that stop them from picking him.

 

[Riggins]

Well, Pronman is pretty darn clueless and the biggest fraud in the fake scout industry

His final mock drafts in recent years would disagree that he's a fraud. I couldn't care less about his personal rankings but it's clear he has contacts now. He nailed the top 5 last year, as well as Michkov to Philly. In 2022 he had 4 of the top 6 correct, with only Jiricek and Nemec flipped between NJ/Columbus.

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

His final mock drafts in recent years would disagree that he's a fraud. I couldn't care less about his personal rankings but it's clear he has contacts now. He nailed the top 5 last year, as well as Michkov to Philly. In 2022 he had 4 of the top 6 correct, with only Jiricek and Nemec flipped between NJ/Columbus.

lmao....most people had the general idea about the top 5....pure luck and no, he does not have real contacts.

He is a fake in every sense of the word, this is the same ass clown that listed skating as a weakness for Guhle and a strength for Hutson. He has made many similar sub amateur mistakes like this repeatedly and once again doubled down on Hutson being the better skater. I was quite literally better at scouting hockey players when I was 12 years old and that was a very long time ago. This wiener even tried to recruit me to his fake scouting staff before he joined the athletic.

You are assigning and cherry picking lucky picks as evidence of competency and ignoring the sea of idiocy that he has left behind.

 

[WeThreeKings]

I really doubt the sponsors will care that much. If we climb the standings post ASG and end up with a pick around 10, and they deem him to be BPA I don't think they'd let that stop them from picking him.

Yeah I think sponsors of a Montreal based franchise, who just had to deal with the back lash of the Mailloux selection aren't going to want anything to do with them selecting the kid who had anti Semitic messaging on his social media.

Regardless he's not gonna be BPA at any point where we are picking. But there's 0 chance this guy is on the Habs list in the first round.

 

[JotAlan]

All the more reason why they won't draft another small player. Plus those weren't top 10 picks.

This managment team actually has a brain and will use high draft resources on size skill combo. It's why they chose Slaf over Cooley. And RB over Michkov. They are yelling it from the rooftops. Unless there is elite tools like Bedard, they are taking the best combo of skill and size.

It's because of this kind of thinking that they've been without a ppg scorer for 150 years.

 

[Michoulicious]

So…we are picking one of Celebrini, Demidov, Eiserman, Catton or Lindstrom. Right?

I want Dickinson. Don't care that he is a LD.

 

[Riggins]

lmao....most people had the general idea about the top 5....pure luck and no, he does not have real contacts.

He is a fake in every sense of the word, this is the same ass clown that listed skating as a weakness for Guhle and a strength for Hutson. He has made many similar sub amateur mistakes like this repeatedly and once again doubled down on Hutson being the better skater. I was quite literally better at scouting hockey players when I was 12 years old and that was a very long time ago. This wiener even tried to recruit me to his fake scouting staff before he joined the athletic.

You are assigning and cherry picking lucky picks as evidence of competency and ignoring the sea of idiocy that he has left behind.

Aren't you the guy who was in Shane Wright denial til the bitter end like a lot of us? Unless I have you mixed up with a different condescending poster who claims scouting superiority over all.

Again, I don't give a rip about Pronman's scouting ability or personal rankings. They are worthless, no one person can watch hundreds of players enough to make their rankings mean much. The way he's crushing it on his mocks points to him having solid contacts. So I'll read that and McKenzie's lists, both seem to indicate how things might shake out.

 

[hardcorehabs]

God would be it be nice to win the lottery and grab Celebrini

 

[Estimated_Prophet]

Aren't you the guy who was in Shane Wright denial til the bitter end like a lot of us? Unless I have you mixed up with a different condescending poster who claims scouting superiority over all.

Again, I don't give a rip about Pronman's scouting ability or personal rankings. They are worthless, no one person can watch hundreds of players enough to make their rankings mean much. The way he's crushing it on his mocks points to him having solid contacts. So I'll read that and McKenzie's lists, both seem to indicate how things might shake out.

I was in on Wright but without interviewing players and talking to the people around him we are all at a great disadvantage and luck plays an enormous role. Only clueless fans actually believe that they can scout accurately via video and only these fans who have no skin on the game place such importance on mistaken projections.

I am adept at judging skating ability and I am far more experienced and competent at player evaluation than Pronman who is a nonathletic beta who has no idea about physical competition and doesn't even possess rudimentary scouting acumen. He is a fraud who makes a fool of himself every year when he attempts to break down individual player's skill sets.

To be clear, this is not about being condescending as I can confidently say that there are many posters on this forum as well as the rest of HFBoards who are vastly superior to Pronman as talent evaluators and should be quoted long before this clown.

You put stock into lucky dart throws but I put stock into the ability to accurately assess a player's strengths and weaknesses and to construct a viable argument based on these findings. Any fool who is aware of the consensus players at the top of the draft can get lucky by arranging a handful of names in a semi correct order but that does not indicate skill......it is mostly luck as it is even for those of us who know far more than Pronman.

 

[G0bias]

Nevermind the fact I'd take 4 defensemen ahead of MBN in the same range but I'd rather go with Iginla and even Helenius ahead of MBN. Hope he slips and we can get him mid round tho.

Anyways i think the point is moot as we should be in a spot to grab whoever of Demigod, Lindstrom and Catton is left. Maybe even get to pick between two

 

[HuGort]

I want Dickinson. Don't care that he is a LD.

I can't see Habs passing on Dickinson

I was in on Wright but without interviewing players and talking to the people around him we are all at a great disadvantage and luck plays an enormous role. Only clueless fans actually believe that they can scout accurately via video and only these fans who have no skin on the game place such importance on mistaken projections.

I am adept at judging skating ability and I am far more experienced and competent at player evaluation than Pronman who is a nonathletic beta who has no idea about physical competition and doesn't even possess rudimentary scouting acumen. He is a fraud who makes a fool of himself every year when he attempts to break down individual player's skill sets.

To be clear, this is not about being condescending as I can confidently say that there are many posters on this forum as well as the rest of HFBoards who are vastly superior to Pronman as talent evaluators and should be quoted long before this clown.

You put stock into lucky dart throws but I put stock into the ability to accurately assess a player's strengths and weaknesses and to construct a viable argument based on these findings. Any fool who is aware of the consensus players at the top of the draft can get lucky by arranging a handful of names in a semi correct order but that does not indicate skill......it is mostly luck as it is even for those of us who know far more than Pronman.

I was in on Wright until few days before his draft. I seen one of his interviews, then ranked him third. I said he's got attitude

 

[jaffy27]

Again, posting a dumb joke on social media as a 16 year old is not even comparable to what Mailloux did

Was the joke funny at least?

 

[Jaynki]

I was in on Wright but without interviewing players and talking to the people around him we are all at a great disadvantage and luck plays an enormous role. Only clueless fans actually believe that they can scout accurately via video and only these fans who have no skin on the game place such importance on mistaken projections.

I am adept at judging skating ability and I am far more experienced and competent at player evaluation than Pronman who is a nonathletic beta who has no idea about physical competition and doesn't even possess rudimentary scouting acumen. He is a fraud who makes a fool of himself every year when he attempts to break down individual player's skill sets.

To be clear, this is not about being condescending as I can confidently say that there are many posters on this forum as well as the rest of HFBoards who are vastly superior to Pronman as talent evaluators and should be quoted long before this clown.

You put stock into lucky dart throws but I put stock into the ability to accurately assess a player's strengths and weaknesses and to construct a viable argument based on these findings. Any fool who is aware of the consensus players at the top of the draft can get lucky by arranging a handful of names in a semi correct order but that does not indicate skill......it is mostly luck as it is even for those of us who know far more than Pronman.

You sound very insecure

 

[TheBuriedHab]

Was the joke funny at least?

Him and his friend made a swastika out of leggos and posted it on snapchat when he was 16.

 

[Benstheman]

Him and his friend made a swastika out of leggos and posted it on snapchat when he was 16.

weird and certanly not funny.

 

[SwiftyHab]

why is there not a poll in this thread to see where everyone is leaning?

 

[Adam Michaels]

By the time the Habs select, if forwards like Celebrini, Demidov, Lindstrom, and Eiserman are off the board, are you guys okay with Habs taking another D? Someone like Dickinson, Leshunov or Parekh.

Or do you prefer they still go with a forward when you see someone like Catton and Helenius are still on the board, among others?

 

[WinterLion]

By the time the Habs select, if forwards like Celebrini, Demidov, Lindstrom, and Eiserman are off the board, are you guys okay with Habs taking another D? Someone like Dickinson, Leshunov or Parekh.

Or do you prefer they still go with a forward when you see someone like Catton and Helenius are still on the board, among others?

If there is a run on F's at the top and we end up with one of the big D there will certainly be teams wanting to move up... or we could just take one of them... either way it will be great.

 

[Benstheman]

By the time the Habs select, if forwards like Celebrini, Demidov, Lindstrom, and Eiserman are off the board, are you guys okay with Habs taking another D? Someone like Dickinson, Leshunov or Parekh.

Or do you prefer they still go with a forward when you see someone like Catton and Helenius are still on the board, among others?

I'm more than ok with Dickinson, Levshunov and Silayev.

Parekh is not what we need. We will have more than enough offense coming from the back end.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

I want Dickinson. Don't care that he is a LD.

That’s why this draft is so intriguing. If you are drafting in the top 8-10, you’re getting an impact player who ever you are picking. And why trading our first would be a Bergevin like - level of incompetence.

 

[Benstheman]

If there is a run on F's at the top and we end up with one of the big D there will certainly be teams wanting to move up... or we could just take one of them... either way it will be great.

Or maybe a team offers a great young forward for our pick. If Celebrini, Demidov and Lindstrom are gone by our pick, i'm more than ready to listen to offers.

That’s why this draft is so intriguing. If you are drafting in the top 8-10, you’re getting an impact player who ever you are picking. And why trading our first would be a Bergevin like - level of incompetence.

Always depends on the offer.

 

[Gaylord Q Tinkledink]

By the time the Habs select, if forwards like Celebrini, Demidov, Lindstrom, and Eiserman are off the board, are you guys okay with Habs taking another D? Someone like Dickinson, Leshunov or Parekh.

Or do you prefer they still go with a forward when you see someone like Catton and Helenius are still on the board, among others?

Catton
Dickinson
Parekh

From what I've heard.

 

[Nicko999]

Parekh is not what we need. We will have more than enough offense coming from the back end.

You don't draft for needs, you draft BPA. What if none of the D propects we have pan out?

If you have an abundance of those in 2-3 years, you can always trade Parekh for needs.

 

[ChesterNimitz]

Or maybe a team offers a great young forward for our pick. If Celebrini, Demidov and Lindstrom are gone by our pick, i'm more than ready to listen to offers.


Always depends on the offer.

Particularly, if it's a Bergevin -level General Manager making the offer.

Catton
Dickinson
Parekh

From what I've heard.

But what have you seen?