Based on the many years you watched him play? I saw Gordie Howe play many times. His standing in hockey history is well deserved.Howe was not that good. Overrated because he played so long. Richard was a winner.
Based on the many years you watched him play? I saw Gordie Howe play many times. His standing in hockey history is well deserved.Howe was not that good. Overrated because he played so long. Richard was a winner.
Based on the many years you watched him play? I saw Gordie Howe play many times. His standing in hockey history is well deserved.
What?......what?Howe was not that good. Overrated because he played so long. Richard was a winner.
I watched his stick handling drill only yesterday.Hopefully Demidov likes pressure, when I pop in the thread and have people already calling him generational...sheeeeeesh
The only generational players I have ever seen were Bobby Orr, Wayne Gretzky, Mario Lemieux, Sidney Crosby and Connor McDavid. Some players deserve honorable mention but imo the 5 I listed were the only true generational players.I don't think he's generational though. Nor do I agree that the Rocket was or Lafleur was. Franchise talents but generational is a very very high bar.
Nothing to do i of which I like and which I don't like.Another discussion about generational players a.k.a the players i like versus the players i don't like.
I've seen people argue Ovy is not generational ...
There's no bar to it. It basically should means a player who defined a generation. When you think of the 80ies NHL who do you think of? That's what a generational player should be. The few players who shaped a generation of hockey players. Lemieux, Gretzky, Roy, (X) .... Crosby, Ovy ... (Millenials/Y) Like alternative music is generationally tied and influenced the x generation. The NHL spanned thru 7 generations so there should be around 10 to maybe 20 generational players something like that.I don't think he's generational though. Nor do I agree that the Rocket was or Lafleur was. Franchise talents but generational is a very very high bar.
There should not be any debate about Ovy. There's a good chance he ends up the best goal scorer of al time. He missed the playoffs only 4 times in 19 years (two of them in his first two seasons) and some of the lineup he played with were really not very good with hindsight. He made lot of players look way better than they really were like Mike Green, Semin, Chris Clark, ...Nothing to do i of which I like and which I don't like.
It is very universal in the hockey world that Howe, Lemieux Gretzky ,.Orr are generational...in fact it is not even an opinion anymore.
You add Crosby and Mcdavid in the.mix and the hockey world.are agree. The one in fact that there is still a debate is Ovechkin.
In my personal view ..he is maybe not cause he is just a scorer...but a hell of a scorer so I am on thin line with him.
same! lots of rapid flapping of the stick making noise for show; Kovalev has wrists and forearms like I have never seen, puck whizzing through and around with every push/pull.I watched his stick handling drill only yesterday.
He has a whole heck of a lot of work to put in to reach Kovalev's level of puck manipulation.
Would you actually think the same way if you lived in their generation without any knowledge of future events?I don't think he's generational though. Nor do I agree that the Rocket was or Lafleur was. Franchise talents but generational is a very very high bar.
Kovalev was a beast physically in person.same! lots of rapid flapping of the stick making noise for show; Kovalev has wrists and forearms like I have never seen, puck whizzing through and around with every push/pull.
10-15 years of Kovy tapes an drills to go!
I watched Howe play. Good player but with the talent he played with he should have won more.Based on the many years you watched him play? I saw Gordie Howe play many times. His standing in hockey history is well deserved.
So should’ve Price but it takes a team and the Habs had a stacked lineup not just the Rocket.I watched Howe play. Good player but with the talent he played with he should have won more.
Not according to the scouts at THN which surveyed all the teams. Michkov was the #1 rated prospect and only 2 i've heard say Demidov was better (Button and noted hater and scout when Leblanc was picked McCagg).You got that backwards
Connor Bedard 5'10" Michkov outplayed he and Wright in the last international tournament.Demidov 6ft0.5
Michkov 5ft10
Hughes is a genius.
They better worry about just getting past Buffalo and Ottawa and out of the basement.The fact something so insignificant can bother you so much only makes me want to say it more lol
The team is run by both Hughes and Gorton.
HuGo ain't going anywhere
It’s not an argument. He was top 3-5 All time which is saying a lot for Canadiens and their history.You can make a case that Price was a Generational talent for goaltenders.
Then you have Malkin, draisaitl and most ovy … are they ? Are they not . I can’t decide but I think demidov if he peaks and develops to the max would be in their range .Generational players:
Howe
Orr
Gretzky
Lemieux
Lindros
Crosby
Mcdavid
Lindros career was not Generational because of his concussions at early age but Lindros between 16 and 24 years old was a generational talent and physique
I would not put Ovy as generational...he is a generational scorer but unlike the list above..all those players made players around them better as well.
Which was what U18?Not according to the scouts at THN which surveyed all the teams. Michkov was the #1 rated prospect and only 2 i've heard say Demidov was better (Button and noted hater and scout when Leblanc was picked McCagg).
Connor Bedard 5'10" Michkov outplayed he and Wright in the last international tournament.
Detroit had a far better team than Price ever played for.So should’ve Price but it takes a team and the Habs had a stacked lineup not just the Rocket.
There is no Orr, Makar without Harvey
Hlinka. Demidov was a year younger. I think skill wise there's no denying Michkov is more skilled. But i've been watching hockey since the mid 80ies and one of the most skilled player to wear a CH uniform was Vladimir Malakhov. Skills is not everything. I think most people would tell you Demidov is the more complete player of the two.Which was what U18?
Was Slaf even on the same prospect page as those guys back then because he sure is now.
There is a ton of developmental water that has gone under the bridge since then...
How did they match up in PeeWee?
It needed to be calmed down before the G word got used imo. I’m all for excitement but people are acting like the Habs just drafted a McDavid. He’s an awesome prospect but there’s still a long road ahead. He went 5th overall for a reason. A lot still has to go right, nothing is guaranteed with him.