Prospect Info: [2024 - 5th] Ivan Motherbleeping Demidov (RW), SKA St. Petersburg (MHL)

[overlords]

Heavens to Murgatroyd. Michael Farkas put out a video on Demidov.

 

[Gravity]

Heavens to Murgatroyd. Michael Farkas put out a video on Demidov.

Posted this in the prospect thread as well but unbelievable breakdown. Great video to understand how elite Demidov's hockey IQ and reaction time is.

 

[the]

TVA Sports thinks that with Kuznetsov joining SKA it might open up an opportunity for Kent Hughes to negotiate a contract termination for Demidov.

He would basically be stuck between the KHL and MHL.

https://www.tvasports.ca/2024/07/17/lavenir-de-demidov-influence-par-la-decision-de-kuznetsov

 

[Draft]

So what do we do if he starts the season in Laval playing C? I’m not emotionally prepared.

 

[BoneHutson]

So what do we do if he starts the season in Laval playing C? I’m not emotionally prepared.

People take for granted that hes starting in Laval if does sign this summer, but man the way Hughes, Lapointe and Bobrov talked about him seems to indicate that they see him as a potential contributor right away. I can totally see him coming in this year as an 18 yo and putting up 50-60pts on Dachs wing. Unless they plan on tanking one last year and want him to lead Laval to a Calder cup alongside Reinbacher, Engstrom, Farrell and Beck, I just dont see him starting in Laval.

 

[26Mats]

TVA Sports thinks that with Kuznetsov joining SKA it might open up an opportunity for Kent Hughes to negotiate a contract termination for Demidov.

He would basically be stuck between the KHL and MHL.

https://www.tvasports.ca/2024/07/17/lavenir-de-demidov-influence-par-la-decision-de-kuznetsov

Would be nice to see Demidov in north America next year.

 

[Kojo]

People take for granted that hes starting in Laval if does sign this summer, but man the way Hughes, Lapointe and Bobrov talked about him seems to indicate that they see him as a potential contributor right away. I can totally see him coming in this year as an 18 yo and putting up 50-60pts on Dachs wing. Unless they plan on tanking one last year and want him to lead Laval to a Calder cup alongside Reinbacher, Engstrom, Farrell and Beck, I just dont see him starting in Laval.

Almost none of the players he is being compared with played in the NHL at 18-years old. He needs to get stronger and faster.

 

[Milhouse40]

TVA Sports thinks that with Kuznetsov joining SKA it might open up an opportunity for Kent Hughes to negotiate a contract termination for Demidov.

He would basically be stuck between the KHL and MHL.

https://www.tvasports.ca/2024/07/17/lavenir-de-demidov-influence-par-la-decision-de-kuznetsov

I think it a;ways been in the plan.....Kent Hughes actually said something about it:

“This season coming up, he’s under contract at St. Petersburg. If he’s playing in the KHL, that’s a great environment for him for a year…If he’s not in the KHL, we have to see what the options are…”

They don't want him in the MHL or VHL and it look like it's going to be the case cause unlike Michkov, they can't loan him to another KHL team

Next year's camp would be extremely enterntaining.

 

[Draft]

People take for granted that hes starting in Laval if does sign this summer, but man the way Hughes, Lapointe and Bobrov talked about him seems to indicate that they see him as a potential contributor right away. I can totally see him coming in this year as an 18 yo and putting up 50-60pts on Dachs wing. Unless they plan on tanking one last year and want him to lead Laval to a Calder cup alongside Reinbacher, Engstrom, Farrell and Beck, I just dont see him starting in Laval.

The jump from MHL to NHL is huge. Physically and otherwise. A year of professional hockey could make all the difference in making that transition easier.

He can always start in Laval and make his way to MTL if shows he’s ready. No reason to rush him - he really doesn’t come across as a guy that’s looking to take shortcuts.

 

[Jabba11]

the 2023 one dropped august 31st

We'll have to settle for the Ducks BTS hahaha

 

[LaP]

So what do we do if he starts the season in Laval playing C? I’m not emotionally prepared.

Watch Laval's games?

 

[BoneHutson]

The jump from MHL to NHL is huge. Physically and otherwise. A year of professional hockey could make all the difference in making that transition easier.

He can always start in Laval and make his way to MTL if shows he’s ready. No reason to rush him - he really doesn’t come across as a guy that’s looking to take shortcuts.

I just dont see much of a difference in terms of physical game between thr A and the NHL. The main difference is speed, execution speed and skill level, which Demidov has plenty of

 

[Kennerback]

The jump from MHL to NHL is huge. Physically and otherwise. A year of professional hockey could make all the difference in making that transition easier.

He can always start in Laval and make his way to MTL if shows he’s ready. No reason to rush him - he really doesn’t come across as a guy that’s looking to take shortcuts.

In the little I’ve seen Demidov in the KHL, he’s much more involved in the play than Slaf was in Liiga. But I just want him in NA asap. Laval would do just fine. I don’t like that his next season is left to the whims of SKA.

 

[Kojo]

In the little I’ve seen Demidov in the KHL, he’s much more involved in the play than Slaf was in Liiga. But I just want him in NA asap. Laval would do just fine. I don’t like that his next season is left to the whims of SKA.

They're apple and orange. Slaf is a 240 lbs beast and Demidov is a 190 lbs beast.

 

[Kudo Shinichi]

People take for granted that hes starting in Laval if does sign this summer, but man the way Hughes, Lapointe and Bobrov talked about him seems to indicate that they see him as a potential contributor right away. I can totally see him coming in this year as an 18 yo and putting up 50-60pts on Dachs wing. Unless they plan on tanking one last year and want him to lead Laval to a Calder cup alongside Reinbacher, Engstrom, Farrell and Beck, I just dont see him starting in Laval.

If he plays in the NHL this year, we shouldn't expect 50-60 pts. The jump from MHL to NHL is huge. We saw Jack Hughes go from the USHL to the NHL, and he struggled big time in his first nhl season.

 

[Adam Michaels]

I just dont see much of a difference in terms of physical game between thr A and the NHL. The main difference is speed, execution speed and skill level, which Demidov has plenty of

MHL isn't their AHL (I imagine that's what you mean by "their A"). It's their CHL.

Russia's version of the AHL is the VHL (the league Makar Khanin played in).

 

[BoneHutson]

MHL isn't their AHL (I imagine that's what you mean by "their A"). It's their CHL.

Russia's version of the AHL is the VHL (the league Makar Khanin played in).

No I meant the AHL. Theres not much difference physically between the AHL and the NHL.

 

[1909]

I hope the kid will have a fair chance to play at KHL level and nothing lower this season. He needs to play against men.

 

[Draft]

I just dont see much of a difference in terms of physical game between thr A and the NHL. The main difference is speed, execution speed and skill level, which Demidov has plenty of

Sorry, for clarity, I’m referring to the physical demands on a player in the NHL vs MHL. The AHL can often be more predatory in terms of physical play for young players. The speed and strength required to play at the NHL level is a big step and far past what he’ll face in the AHL.

I’d prefer another year developing his skating and getting his strength/conditioning to a level where he can transition more comfortably into a top-6 role. Especially if he’s serious about being interested in playing C.

 

[Kennerback]

Demidov is a player oozing with skill and with a winning attitude. Whether he plays year one in the AHL or in the NHL, he’ll end up at the same place. It’s virtually impossible to flub his development in NA. I think he also eventually ends up at the same place if he spends the year in Russia but if he learns bad habits he’ll need to unlearn them and likely he’ll not learn everything he should to play in the NHL.

 

[Canadienna]

The playing centre thing is interesting, but anyone else feel like his playstyle is more suited to the wing?

If by some miracle he does play in Laval this year, do they put him at C?

 

[KevSkillz4]

The playing centre thing is interesting, but anyone else feel like his playstyle is more suited to the wing?

If by some miracle he does play in Laval this year, do they put him at C?

Yes. The most logical thing for everyone it's Demidov at wing.

But Stutzle is a good exemple if Demidov play C at NHL level. I always see Stutzle a winger, but at this moment is a top 1 C for Sens.

 

[Saundies]

The playing centre thing is interesting, but anyone else feel like his playstyle is more suited to the wing?

If by some miracle he does play in Laval this year, do they put him at C?

I see him as a wing too but there is nothing wrong at all with trying him at C and seeing how he does (at the AHL level).

Worst comes to worst he's not suited for it. Developing and working on your game is what the AHL is for, and if that's the case then at least we know.

Best comes to best he's an absolute beast in that role and then we have another top 6 C out of the blue.

 

[Apfel Struble]

The playing centre thing is interesting, but anyone else feel like his playstyle is more suited to the wing?

If by some miracle he does play in Laval this year, do they put him at C?

I would play him at C, yeah. Right now, with the exception of Newhook, the Habs only have right-handed Cs on the roster as well as in the pipeline, Suzuki, Dach, Beck, Hage, Kapanen all shoot right. Demidov being a lefty would bring some balance

He'd be a W/C hybrid like Newhook, which always help with faceoffs and in cases of injuries

 

[KevSkillz4]

Guys, do you think Demidov is a generationnal talent?