Speculation: 2024/25 Trade Rumours, Speculation etc Thread

[voyageur]

Was just looking ahead using the puck Pedia GM tool

It looks like we can basically re-sign our entire roster and have enough cap space to do it.

Good flexibility to have.

I could see Namestnikov and Iafallo moving on to other opportunities. Which would open some space for young players.

 

[10Ducky10]

And iafallo has any offensive instincts? How Lafallo gets so many opportunities I’ll never know.

32 out of 32 coaches would prefer Iafallo over Barron.

 

[Section 325]

Was just looking ahead using the puck Pedia GM tool

It looks like we can basically re-sign our entire roster and have enough cap space to do it.

Good flexibility to have.

I feel like that's a very uncommon position for a playoff team to find themselves in, especially in Canada where it feels like everybody is overpaid.

 

[KingBogo]

I just don't think there is any way you can trade Ehlers now, going into his final season. The team wants to win and I think most people are in agreement that the Jets have a better chance of making the playoffs with Ehlers than without him. The Jets can't mortgage for next year with this core. And a trade of Ehlers won't be 1 for 1, in all likelihood, because of his contract status. It would more likely be prospective players, and for everyone in that dressing room losing a key player would be a message from management that they are not trying to win this year. I just hope the Jets don't use another 1st on a 2C.

Do the Jets really go the own rental route with such a valuable asset? Personally I don’t think the decision on Ehlers comes down to the TDL. If he won’t sign I think Chevy tries to make the best hockey trade he can well before the TDL so it isn’t a giving up on the season move. If Ehlers is willing to make his long term signing as part of the deal I think we could get a nice player or 2 in return.

 

[Adam da bomb]

He does a lot of good things that aren't offensive in nature. Also he seems like a great team guy - bonded well.

I don't know if anyone remembers but there was concern when we acquired him that he was a Cali guy, loved surfing might not be happy to come to Winnipeg but he's been a total pro - works hard, never complains and seems to be very well liked.

Yeah, he's earning too much on the 4th line but I really like that line for the first time since Tanev - and the coaches do too playing them 12 reliable minutes a night.

That's good for the other lines, hopefully keep them better rested through the season. We might even see better efforts in b2bs

Not sure how any of your point proves iaffalo deserves a position over anyone else. Team guy, so?

32 out of 32 coaches would prefer Iafallo over Barron.

Love how you try to sell your opinion as a fact. I disagree.

Well he gets PP time. Arniel must see something. He actually had a strange game last night where he made two nice shot blocks in the defensive zone, which eventually ended up in the back of the net.


You can see a little bit of chemistry with Pionk on the ice, carrying over from his UMD days.

Yes and kc gets top line and you will get a million ppl on here who will disagree with it.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

Do the Jets really go the own rental route with such a valuable asset? Personally I don’t think the decision on Ehlers comes down to the TDL. If he won’t sign I think Chevy tries to make the best hockey trade he can well before the TDL so it isn’t a giving up on the season move. If Ehlers is willing to make his long term signing as part of the deal I think we could get a nice player or 2 in return.

It has to be done, one way or the other, fairly soon. After Xmas it begins looking like a TD sale.

 

[DRW204]

Do the Jets really go the own rental route with such a valuable asset? Personally I don’t think the decision on Ehlers comes down to the TDL. If he won’t sign I think Chevy tries to make the best hockey trade he can well before the TDL so it isn’t a giving up on the season move. If Ehlers is willing to make his long term signing as part of the deal I think we could get a nice player or 2 in return.

who is giving a nice player or 2 (whatever that means) for a ufa-1 who has all this terrible, un-play-with-able aspects of this game that a group of posters have outlined over this past while?

 

[10Ducky10]

I could see Namestnikov and Iafallo moving on to other opportunities. Which would open some space for young players.

I'd keep Names over some other players.
He is no 2C but he can play a LOT of different roles on a team.
He's better than Gus, Kup, Barron and is in the same "tier" on the team as Apples.

For instance, if a top 6 player went down, Names could fill in, short term, for Nino while Nino went up or even be elevated into the top 6 (more likely?) with some confidence.

 

[WolfHouse]

I'd keep Names over some other players.
He is no 2C but he can play a LOT of different roles on a team.
He's better than Gus, Kup, Barron and is in the same "tier" on the team as Apples.

For instance, if a top 6 player went down, Names could fill in, short term, for Nino while Nino went up or even be elevated into the top 6 (more likely?) with some confidence.

Names is our new Perrault... I think they re-sign him

 

[Buffdog]

who is giving a nice player or 2 (whatever that means) for a ufa-1 who has all this terrible, un-play-with-able aspects of this game that a group of posters have outlined over this past while?

You're on a tear misrepresenting posts. I've said (if you're referring to me) that Schief specifically might not like playing with Ehlers because they're very different types of players. Ehlers excels on the rush and schief likes more of a posession/cycling game. That said, nobody likes it when a guy turns the puck over at the rate Ehelrs does

I'm sure there are plenty of other guys in the league who are strong on the rush who would love to play with Ehlers

 

[DRW204]

Names is our new Perrault... I think they re-sign him

easily take him back at a similar low-term contract. if one of the prospects does break-out, it's easy to move him up and down the line up or trade if need be.

since 2023: we are ~34-12-5 with Names "the non-top-6 player" as our 2C with a ~+17 2nd line goal-differential with him in that spot. Unfortunately, some shit on him or want to replace b/c he's not a 20 year old prospect, or ignorant of his line's goal-differential while the other top-6 is barely treading water. v unfortunate.

 

[WolfHouse]

easily take him back at a similar low-term contract. if one of the prospects does break-out, it's easy to move him up and down the line up or trade if need be.

since 2023: we are ~34-12-5 with Names "the non-top-6 player" as our 2C with a +17 goal-differential with him in that spot. Unfortunately, some shit on him or want to replace b/c he's not a 20 year old prospect, or ignorant of his line's goal-differential while the other top-6 is barely treading water. v unfortunate.

We have definitely come a long way from it being declared 'a disaster' or a failure by Bones if Names ended up as our 2C last season haha

 

[Flair Hay]

You're on a tear misrepresenting posts. I've said (if you're referring to me) that Schief specifically might not like playing with Ehlers because they're very different types of players. Ehlers excels on the rush and schief likes more of a posession/cycling game. That said, nobody likes it when a guy turns the puck over at the rate Ehelrs does

I'm sure there are plenty of other guys in the league who are strong on the rush who would love to play with Ehlers

Yeah lumping people into groups doesn't help anything. I feel like you, Bogo and voyageur all have different reasons you are fine with the line deployment. Or at least not dead set against it like a lot are.

You seem to feel there are some interpersonal dynamics/play style the coach has to balance, Bogo is more in the pro balancing the lineup camp, and voyageur puts less emphasis on the numbers reliability.

I don't agree myself with these but they are different points that are often not critical of Ehlers

 

[ps241]

Do the Jets really go the own rental route with such a valuable asset? Personally I don’t think the decision on Ehlers comes down to the TDL. If he won’t sign I think Chevy tries to make the best hockey trade he can well before the TDL so it isn’t a giving up on the season move. If Ehlers is willing to make his long term signing as part of the deal I think we could get a nice player or 2 in return.

It doesn’t feel like a Chevy thing to do, but we do love burning assets to get our asses handed to us in the playoffs so who knows I guess.

 

[WolfHouse]

It doesn’t feel like a Chevy thing to do, but we do love burning assets to get our asses handed to us in the playoffs so who knows I guess.

Id grab provorov and greenway at TD

Csv
Nino names ehlers
Barron lowry apples
Greenway kupari perfetti

 

[KingBogo]

It doesn’t feel like a Chevy thing to do, but we do love burning assets to get our asses handed to us in the playoffs so who knows I guess.

At least Chevy has recouped assets in other years. Getting both Lambert and Salo out of the Copp trade seems like a gift. But agreed I’d prefer he doesn’t chase pure rentals with 1st round picks.

 

[GeorgeJETson]

It's just a great name. Right up there with Travis Konecny.

When are we trading for Nelson Konecny?

 

[ps241]

At least Chevy has recouped assets in other years. Getting both Lambert and Salo out of the Copp trade seems like a gift. But agreed I’d prefer he doesn’t chase pure rentals with 1st round picks.

He hasn’t done a bad job giving and taking to balance the sheet but last season was a whopper (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th) and he has real work to do to recoup those. The issue is I don’t think it helped the team in the playoffs either. Given the givens I would prefer we actually stay ahead on the ledger. I have no problem moving draft capital for assets but not without some term coming back.

 

[RustyCat]

You're on a tear misrepresenting posts. I've said (if you're referring to me) that Schief specifically might not like playing with Ehlers because they're very different types of players. Ehlers excels on the rush and schief likes more of a posession/cycling game. That said, nobody likes it when a guy turns the puck over at the rate Ehelrs does

I'm sure there are plenty of other guys in the league who are strong on the rush who would love to play with Ehlers

Noted that too. Normally I dont care to weigh in but that is one poster I have previous enjoyed reading their thoughts but as of late it is just super condescending.

 

[bustamente]

It's kinda funny that the only guy who came back from last years deadline deals is the guy that hardly played and most thought would not return and has played well enough so far this year.

 

[voyageur]

He hasn’t done a bad job giving and taking to balance the sheet but last season was a whopper (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th) and he has real work to do to recoup those. The issue is I don’t think it helped the team in the playoffs either. Given the givens I would prefer we actually stay ahead on the ledger. I have no problem moving draft capital for assets but not without some term coming back.

I hope the Jets don't give up big assets on the 2C plug this year. I'd rather see Lambert or an ELC year off Yager's contract for a playoff run, because inevitably one of them is going to be the 2C. You would think that competition starts next year, but it could be one year later,

Getting good deals on players with term seems to come at even higher cost (T.B), unless it's a Cap dump.

I just can't see Ehlers being traded. There's no way Chevy does that. Too popular of a player, you let those guys go on their own terms, because the dollars and sense say making the playoffs makes the owners money. Still a chance to re-sign him all the way until July 1.

 

[TS Quint]

Do the Jets really go the own rental route with such a valuable asset? Personally I don’t think the decision on Ehlers comes down to the TDL. If he won’t sign I think Chevy tries to make the best hockey trade he can well before the TDL so it isn’t a giving up on the season move. If Ehlers is willing to make his long term signing as part of the deal I think we could get a nice player or 2 in return.

I don't know how valuable an often injured, poor playoff performer, with less than a year left is. Any examples of a hustorical trade you would expect?

the Jets shouldn't trade Ehlers for worse players they don't need, then go pay to replace him with another rental.

Jets are trying to win. They don't need more depth.

 

[Mortimer Snerd]

I hope the Jets don't give up big assets on the 2C plug this year. I'd rather see Lambert or an ELC year off Yager's contract for a playoff run, because inevitably one of them is going to be the 2C. You would think that competition starts next year, but it could be one year later,

Getting good deals on players with term seems to come at even higher cost (T.B), unless it's a Cap dump.

I just can't see Ehlers being traded. There's no way Chevy does that. Too popular of a player, you let those guys go on their own terms, because the dollars and sense say making the playoffs makes the owners money. Still a chance to re-sign him all the way until July 1.

And I just can't see Chevy letting him walk.
And there is no sign of him signing.

But if they are going to trade him, the sooner the better.

 

[Gm0ney]

He hasn’t done a bad job giving and taking to balance the sheet but last season was a whopper (1st, 2nd, 3rd, 4th) and he has real work to do to recoup those. The issue is I don’t think it helped the team in the playoffs either. Given the givens I would prefer we actually stay ahead on the ledger. I have no problem moving draft capital for assets but not without some term coming back.

I think it would be worse if a GM didn't try to load up at the deadline. I know it has real costs in draft capital - but that's magic beans in the future.

Not making moves at the deadline is the most dangerous game of all! For a GM's career, anyway. If you make moves and win, you're brilliant. If you make moves and lose, well - you tried. Can't win 'em all. Don't make moves and lose? That's on you...

You can't expect guys whose jobs are on the line to take a 10% chance that not acquiring at the deadline will result in some better team in 4 or 5 years. f*** that! We could all be working in Trump's salt mines in 5 years!

 

[voyageur]

And I just can't see Chevy letting him walk.
And there is no sign of him signing.

But if they are going to trade him, the sooner the better.

If Ehlers gives the team the best chance of making the playoffs, then you don't trade him. What do you think you'd get in return that could immediately help the team? For a player that is uncertain for the future of any team that traded for him. Are you going to let his agent starting talking to other teams in the middle of the season? There won't be any distractions inside the room this year. Guys are playing for pride, guys are playing for their careers, next contracts, etc. Playing for each other. That's not a bad problem to have, this year.