2024-25 Roster…too soon?

[BHawk21]

1st round pick and probably a top 10 prospect or a Kaiser/Reichel

Yea I am doing Toronto 1st and Kaiser for Necas.

Toronto has picked 28,25, and 25 the last 3 years. Its not going to be much different. Say 20-28? I like Kaiser but at this point getting established talent to pair with your most important asset is more vital.

 

[Mrfenn92]

Did anyone actually see Friedman wild prediction Guentzel might be going to Chicago on NHL Network? I would love to see the clip. Barstool Chief (I know everyone hates him) said something similar the other day.

NVM-

Will say that would obviously be a big splash.
Will also say chief is a stroke.

 

[Hawkaholic]

Yea I am doing Toronto 1st and Kaiser for Necas.

Toronto has picked 28,25, and 25 the last 3 years. Its not going to be much different. Say 20-28? I like Kaiser but at this point getting established talent to pair with your most important asset is more vital.

I dont see TOR 1st and Kaiser being the best deal they can get. It will be our 1st next year as a starting point. If we dont do that, it will be a Nazar+, or KK+.

 

[BHawk21]

I dont see TOR 1st and Kaiser being the best deal they can get. It will be our 1st next year as a starting point. If we dont do that, it will be a Nazar+, or KK+.

Of course you dont do that. That will not be his return.

Nazar is a top 15 prospect in the world right now (drafted). KK is 7th overall and played a full year of NHL already. Our 1st could be 1st overall most likely top 7?

 

[Hawkaholic]

Of course you dont do that. That will not be his return.

Nazar is a top 15 prospect in the world right now (drafted). KK is 7th overall and played a full year of NHL already. Our 1st could be 1st overall.

Post TOR 1st and Kaiser in the Necas trade thread and see what Canes fans think about it lol He's getting a better return than that. He'll get a DCat type return. (Top 10 pick/2nd round value/+)

 

[BHawk21]

Post TOR 1st and Kaiser in the Necas trade thread and see what Canes fans think about it lol He's getting a better return than that. He'll get a DCat type return.

You are the one who said 1st round pick I didnt think you were crazy enough to be talking about the blackhawks 1st round pick lol

Necas is not getting a top 5-7 draft pick and a high end prospect back lol

 

[Hawkaholic]

You are the one who said 1st round pick I didnt think you were crazy enough to be talking about the blackhawks 1st round pick lol

And you're crazy to think they'd accept TOR 1st and Kaiser.

 

[BHawk21]

And you're crazy to think they'd accept TOR 1st and Kaiser.

You said 1st rounder I thought thats what you were talking about because I assumed you werent stupid enough to be talking about a top 5-7 pick. I was wrong.

 

[Hawkaholic]

You said 1st rounder I thought thats what you were talking about because I assumed you werent stupid enough to be talking about a top 5-7 pick. I was wrong.

And you're stupid enough to think TOR 1st and Kaiser would get it done. Our pick is far more realistic, especially if you add conditions to it.

 

[BHawk21]

And you're stupid enough to think TOR 1st and Kaiser would get it done.

I said I would do that because I assumed thats what you were proposing.

You instead are proposing its going to take the hawks 1st and reichel or kaiser. LMAO.

And you're stupid enough to think TOR 1st and Kaiser would get it done. Our pick is far more realistic, especially if you add conditions to it.

You were wrong on Sharangovic and I was wrong on deadline goalie aquisitions. Lets see whos closer to the return.

Toronto 1st and Kaiser Or Top 7 pick and Reichel.

 

[Hawkaholic]

I said I would do that because I assumed thats what you were proposing.

You instead are proposing its going to take the hawks 1st and reichel or kaiser. LMAO.

Yeah, similar to the Debrincat trade.

Whats more realistic?
TOR 1st and Kaiser
CHI 1st (moves to the next year if top 7) + Kaiser?

Go ask Canes fans.

 

[u2wojo]

5 season prior to being traded, DCat had average 32G 61P per season (w/ 2 40 goal campaigns on his resume) and Necas has 19G 48P (and a high water mark of 28 goals and more than 16 goals TWICE in a season). One is not like the other and the return for one will not be like the other regardless of what Canes fans are hoping for. If they get anywhere near a DCat return, it won't be from the Hawks because I want to believe Davidison is not that stupid to do that at ANY point much less the 2nd Summer into a full teardown.

 

[Hawkaholic]

5 season prior to being traded, DCat had average 32G 61P per season (w/ 2 40 goal campaigns on his resume) and Necas has 19G 48P (and a high water mark of 28 goals and more than 16 goals TWICE in a season). One is not like the other and the return for one will not be like the other regardless of what Canes fans are hoping for. If they get anywhere near a DCat return, it won't be from the Hawks because I want to believe Davidison is not that stupid to do that at ANY point much less the 2nd Summer into a full teardown.

He was also playing with Patrick f'n Kane and on the PP1, while the other isn't playing with anyone of note and on PP2. Over the last 2 seasons. Debrincat has 133pts (54G) (0.81pts/gp), and Necas has 124pts (0.78pts/GP) (52G)

Debrincat is a secondary player, just like Necas, both questionable on the defensive side, both not carrying their own line, and both not worth what they make/will make.

 

[ChiHawks10]

You have a weird obsession with that guy.

One, you brought him up.
Two, I only point out he's a fraud and a total clown when someone actually posts about him like he's some kind of authority on anything hockey, or Blackhawks related. The guy knows f*** all. He should be treated as such.

Or maybe you ARE Chief. You sure seem to share a lot of his sentiment on things, and post very similar bozo shit just like he does on Twitter.

 

[BHawk21]

One, you brought him up.
Two, I only point out he's a fraud and a total clown when someone actually posts about him like he's some kind of authority on anything hockey, or Blackhawks related. The guy knows f*** all. He should be treated as such.

Or maybe you ARE Chief. You sure seem to share a lot of his sentiment on things, and post very similar bozo shit just like he does on Twitter.

Yea because it was part of the topic. Now Elliotte Friedman and Barstool Chief have said something about signing him.

Every time hes brought up it seems like he kicked your dog. Hes a dumbass blogger who cares.

Yea I am Chief

 

[BHawk21]

He was also playing with Patrick f'n Kane and on the PP1, while the other isn't playing with anyone of note and on PP2. Over the last 2 seasons. Debrincat has 133pts (54G) (0.81pts/gp), and Necas has 124pts (0.78pts/GP) (52G)

Debrincat is a secondary player, just like Necas, both questionable on the defensive side, both not carrying their own line, and both not worth what they make/will make.

So if you think they are comparable why cant Necas be a 40 goal PPG player playing with Bedard like Debrincat was with Kane?

Debrincat was a better piece at the time of trade and you know that. Your ruining your argument with that comparable.

 

[dj Mahoney]

Guentzel , Kane , Dakota Joshua as Ufa's., Justin Holl and the 15th overall for the 18th overall . And another bad contract or 2 .

 

[BHawk21]

He was also playing with Patrick f'n Kane and on the PP1, while the other isn't playing with anyone of note and on PP2. Over the last 2 seasons. Debrincat has 133pts (54G) (0.81pts/gp), and Necas has 124pts (0.78pts/GP) (52G)

Debrincat is a secondary player, just like Necas, both questionable on the defensive side, both not carrying their own line, and both not worth what they make/will make.

How about the next Debrincat trade when he was a 25 year old RFA (same as Necas) coming off a below average season for himself (27 goals and 39 assists) and wanting a trade.

a conditional 1st (25th overall), Kubalik, and 4th

 

[TheFridge]

This guy just doesn't get it.

 

[BHawk21]

This guy just doesn't get it.

You said Anthony Mantha Tarasenko and maybe Dallas wants to move NMC Tyler Seguin.

Someone here doesnt get it.

 

[Hawkaholic]

So if you think they are comparable why cant Necas be a 40 goal PPG player playing with Bedard like Debrincat was with Kane?

Debrincat was a better piece at the time of trade and you know that. Your ruining your argument with that comparable.

I dont think Necas has the shot to score 40G, and I wouldn't want to acquire 26 year old Debrincat for the price he was traded for either at this point of the rebuild. I'm not ruining any argument lol

 

[BHawk21]

I dont think Necas has the shot to score 40G, and I wouldn't want to acquire 26 year old Debrincat for the price he was traded for either at this point of the rebuild. I'm not ruining any argument lol

So why do you think they are comparable trades? Obviously the more comparable one it the one from Ottawa to Detriot.

 

[TheFridge]

You said Anthony Mantha Tarasenko and maybe Dallas wants to move NMC Tyler Seguin.

Someone here doesnt get it.

Who is Anthony Mantha Tarasenko?

 

[Hawkaholic]

How about the next Debrincat trade when he was a 25 year old RFA (same as Necas) coming off a below average season for himself (27 goals and 39 assists) and wanting a trade.

a conditional 1st (25th overall), Kubalik, and 4th

Necas hasn't demanded a trade as far as I know.

 

[BHawk21]

Who is Anthony Mantha Tarasenko?

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