Boston Bruins 2024-2025 Roster & Salary Cap Discussion III

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Hookslide

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Sure lets keep on getting rid of good players lololol


Freddy is good enough to move up and down your line up, very underrated center.

My bet will be he will better his number next season.
This is not the time to get rid of him unless you are blown away, after all the time you put into him and seems to be starting to payoff, his play is getting more NHL, 200 hits nothing to ignore along with 40pts, and back to back 17 and 18 goal seasons, my thinking there is enough there BUT ! needs consistency.
 

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How can you think Coyle stinks? He's an NHLer and a very good one to boot, its not his fault he's been put in a position to play as a Number One, or a Number Two Center without a true number one above him. The guy is a puck possession hound but he needed to be used where he best excels and that's as a third line center and one who has the ability to play up in the line-up when called upon.
Anyone who thinks Coyle, just does not like the player period, and there is no sense in even having a back to back with him, you will just get frustrated.
 
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What is Trent Frederic's ceiling? 18g and 40pts averaging 13:45 with very little time on the powerplay. Can he be a top 6 RW? What is his future on the Bruins?
I think he can be a top 6 winger but there are concerns. I love Frederic but his inconsistency, both in his physical play and offense, is a concern. He in no way should be the toughest Bruin forward. Get 2 of Duhaime, Sherwood, Maroon or deal for Olivier to take the pressure off of Frederic. I think with his shot and decent skating, mixed with more consistent physical play, he could easily fill out a top 6 role.

Sign Lindholm and Kane or Marchessault to go along with Marchand, Pasta, Zacha and try Frederic in the top six, if it works you may well have a 25 goal 5o point physical winger, literally a Tom Wilson light when he was playing his best.

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Well, he makes more than a fair point and I for one at that time of those trades loved the moves by Sweeney and when the Jeannot trade went down, I thought it was a terrible/desperate deal! GM's are ultimately judged on how deals turn out and not on how they look at the time and unfortunately for Sweeney and the Bruins those deals didn't turn out so well.

I for one also think Sweeney has improved as a GM but you cant deny or disagree with the truth, unless your just turning a blind eye on the facts.
No, it's absurd to compare a trade for one guy to a trade for three. . . besides Bertuzzi alone was probably more productive in that cup of coffee in Boston than Jeannot has been since becoming a Bolt.
 

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Anyone who thinks Coyle, just does not like the player period, and there is no sense in even having a back to back with him, you will just get frustrated.
How about if I say he stinks as a second or first line player? He's a third line center playing up over his head eating over 5.2m of the cap for what 2. more years?

Sure don't have a back and forth because I'm not changing my view on this player, he's not my cup of tea.

Not going anywhere with him on the top two lines facing top end talent ,just not happening.

Nice classy kid, I give him that.
 
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No, it's absurd to compare a trade for one guy to a trade for three. . . besides Bertuzzi alone was probably more productive in that cup of coffee in Boston than Jeannot has been since becoming a Bolt.
His point was those three cost the Bruins some very valuable assets for very little in return in the end, unless your considering a first round exit in the playoffs for a franchise and league setting regular season team a success.
 

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Yikes man, not even comparable, all time bad post for you

It’s extremely comparable. How is it not?

A ton a draft capital traded for minimal impact on both teams and a massive waste of assets.And it seems like quite a few people agree.

Just because you agree to the premise of the trade doesn’t mean it wasn’t a massive failure and waste of assets.
 

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No, it's absurd to compare a trade for one guy to a trade for three. . . besides Bertuzzi alone was probably more productive in that cup of coffee in Boston than Jeannot has been since becoming a Bolt.

Ok but 16 months later there is nothing to show for it and zero roster players from those trades still on the team.

Who cares about the thought process at the time when the end result is nothing.
 

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This is not the time to get rid of him unless you are blown away, after all the time you put into him and seems to be starting to payoff, his play is getting more NHL, 200 hits nothing to ignore along with 40pts, and back to back 17 and 18 goal seasons, my thinking there is enough there BUT ! needs consistency.

I do think with frederick you need to gauge his willingness to sign an extension this summer, and at what price. If you can lock him up for multiple years at under 4 mil a season, then you have to try and get it done, and he becomes more valuable.

If they are coming in looking for 5+ million a year moving forward than you might decide he is more movebale
 

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It’s extremely comparable. How is it not?

A ton a draft capital traded for minimal impact on both teams and a massive waste of assets.And it seems like quite a few people agree.

Just because you agree to the premise of the trade doesn’t mean it wasn’t a massive failure and waste of assets.

Only the people who constantly criticize Sweeney no matter what.
 

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Only the people who constantly criticize Sweeney no matter what.

In the last 16 months Sweeney has traded:

Taylor Hall, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd , 5th, 6th

Headed into this offseason it looks like the only return the bruins will have from all of those will be Andrew Peeke.

If it were a GM of any other team all the Sweeney lovers would be bashing that organization ruthlessly if Andrew Peeke was the only piece left after 16 months.

You can try and spin zone it however you would like but that is an abysmal use of assets.
 

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I guess it depends how you look at it...This group has spent a lot of assets at deadlines to make the team better and to get rid of some bad deals and the net result is zero cups. I think you can have good intentions with the moves and be criticized when it doesn't work.

The Bruins had the best regular season in the history of the NHL. Sweeney gave up future picks to add 3 significant players to get that Cup. That's a good job by a GM in my book.
 

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It’s extremely comparable. How is it not?

A ton a draft capital traded for minimal impact on both teams and a massive waste of assets.And it seems like quite a few people agree.

Just because you agree to the premise of the trade doesn’t mean it wasn’t a massive failure and waste of assets.
The only difference here is hindsight. Because the Bruins didn't win the cup you think the trades suck.

It isn't comparable because one trade was for a bunch of UFAs for a cup run and the other was a massive overpayment followed by an overpaid contract for a guy they thought would have a long term impact.

Can you honestly say at the moment of each trade that the Jeannot trade was similar to those two trades?
 

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Do you guys think Poitras will be in the AHL for most the season next year? ... Now that he's eligible for the minors and just came off surgery
 
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Dennis Bonvie

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In the last 16 months Sweeney has traded:

Taylor Hall, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd , 5th, 6th

Headed into this offseason it looks like the only return the bruins will have from all of those will be Andrew Peeke.

If it were a GM of any other team all the Sweeney lovers would be bashing that organization ruthlessly if Andrew Peeke was the only piece left after 16 months.

You can try and spin zone it however you would like but that is an abysmal use of assets.

And yet the Bruins will still be in very good shape going into next season.
 
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