This is not the time to get rid of him unless you are blown away, after all the time you put into him and seems to be starting to payoff, his play is getting more NHL, 200 hits nothing to ignore along with 40pts, and back to back 17 and 18 goal seasons, my thinking there is enough there BUT ! needs consistency.
Boston Bruins 2024-2025 Roster & Salary Cap Discussion III
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Anyone who thinks Coyle, just does not like the player period, and there is no sense in even having a back to back with him, you will just get frustrated.
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He had over 60 points with 25 goals he had a pretty good season,same as Zacka problem is neither seem to produce in the playoffs,or atleast consistently.
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I think he can be a top 6 winger but there are concerns. I love Frederic but his inconsistency, both in his physical play and offense, is a concern. He in no way should be the toughest Bruin forward. Get 2 of Duhaime, Sherwood, Maroon or deal for Olivier to take the pressure off of Frederic. I think with his shot and decent skating, mixed with more consistent physical play, he could easily fill out a top 6 role.
Sign Lindholm and Kane or Marchessault to go along with Marchand, Pasta, Zacha and try Frederic in the top six, if it works you may well have a 25 goal 5o point physical winger, literally a Tom Wilson light when he was playing his best.
Frederic-Zacha-Pasta
Marchand-Lindholm-Marchessault/Kane
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How about if I say he stinks as a second or first line player? He's a third line center playing up over his head eating over 5.2m of the cap for what 2. more years?
Sure don't have a back and forth because I'm not changing my view on this player, he's not my cup of tea.
Not going anywhere with him on the top two lines facing top end talent ,just not happening.
Nice classy kid, I give him that.
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His point was those three cost the Bruins some very valuable assets for very little in return in the end, unless your considering a first round exit in the playoffs for a franchise and league setting regular season team a success.
Talent and will shine in the playoffs, or in big moments. Neither of these two fit that category
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#1 target is Saros per my Devils peeps.
Likely Bruins trade target could be moved quickly
One player who has been linked to Boston might be dealt shortly
www.masslive.com
PS To all the Maroon critics: I get it, but remember, at least part of the slow skating resulted from back surgery. The guy is 35.
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It’s extremely comparable. How is it not?
A ton a draft capital traded for minimal impact on both teams and a massive waste of assets.And it seems like quite a few people agree.
Just because you agree to the premise of the trade doesn’t mean it wasn’t a massive failure and waste of assets.
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True, I don't think JVR will be back. Doesn't seem like DeBrusk will be either.
I wouldn't mind seeing Maroon and Heinen back.
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Ok but 16 months later there is nothing to show for it and zero roster players from those trades still on the team.
Who cares about the thought process at the time when the end result is nothing.
I do think with frederick you need to gauge his willingness to sign an extension this summer, and at what price. If you can lock him up for multiple years at under 4 mil a season, then you have to try and get it done, and he becomes more valuable.
If they are coming in looking for 5+ million a year moving forward than you might decide he is more movebale
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Only the people who constantly criticize Sweeney no matter what.
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I guess it depends how you look at it...This group has spent a lot of assets at deadlines to make the team better and to get rid of some bad deals and the net result is zero cups. I think you can have good intentions with the moves and be criticized when it doesn't work.
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In the last 16 months Sweeney has traded:
Taylor Hall, 1st, 1st, 2nd, 3rd, 3rd, 3rd , 5th, 6th
Headed into this offseason it looks like the only return the bruins will have from all of those will be Andrew Peeke.
If it were a GM of any other team all the Sweeney lovers would be bashing that organization ruthlessly if Andrew Peeke was the only piece left after 16 months.
You can try and spin zone it however you would like but that is an abysmal use of assets.
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The Bruins had the best regular season in the history of the NHL. Sweeney gave up future picks to add 3 significant players to get that Cup. That's a good job by a GM in my book.
The only difference here is hindsight. Because the Bruins didn't win the cup you think the trades suck.
It isn't comparable because one trade was for a bunch of UFAs for a cup run and the other was a massive overpayment followed by an overpaid contract for a guy they thought would have a long term impact.
Can you honestly say at the moment of each trade that the Jeannot trade was similar to those two trades?
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