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Blue Jays GDT: 2023 v11 | Wed, Sept 21 | @ NYY | 7:00pm ET/4:00pm PT | Berrios vs Cole

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Nineteen67 said:
Bo and whit are ready for the off season.
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Bo has probably rushed back from injury to try and help so any criticism is pretty harsh.

He was having an MVP-level season until he did his knee at the end of July.

f*** off, ump. Holy shit. That was as clear as it gets. It's one thing when it's a breaking ball but a straight fastball right in the zone should never be missed like that.
 
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MS said:
Bo has probably rushed back from injury to try and help so any criticism is pretty harsh.

He was having an MVP-level season until he did his knee at the end of July.

f*** off, ump. Holy shit. That was as clear as it gets. It's one thing when it's a breaking ball but a straight fastball right in the zone should never be missed like that.
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That's true but then sit back and just don't swing, have patience my god
 
Well, our starting pitching has shit the bed finally, at the worst time....
 
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The Blue Jays have the Red Sox and the Yankees coming up in their schedule.

Both the Red Sox and the Yankees are shells of the teams they once were.
 
Is 88 wins out the window? 8 wins in 15 games against Boston NY and TB doesn’t seem realistic.
 
MS said:
I mean, they're still at 53% to make the playoffs.

People love blaming tiny decisions by the manager or what the front office has done but at some point it just has to come down to the players. This is a good team on paper and the veterans have just totally no-showed in this series. And I don't know what anyone but them can do about that.
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Where are you pulling out that 53% number? Is it from the same place that told you there was a 0% chance we miss the playoffs? 🤣

That can literally be said every year by almost every team. Funny how in your world management is never responsible for anything except when the team does well. But when that happens they were brilliant! lol

It's the players fault obviously, but who assembles that collection of players and the staff that oversees them, or the coaches that deploy them? :huh:
 
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jcs0218 said:
The Blue Jays have the Red Sox and the Yankees coming up in their schedule.

Both the Red Sox and the Yankees are shells of the teams they once were.
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But you know they will play the Jays hard. Jays are 3-7 against the Red Sox, and 3-4 against the Yanks.
 
MS said:
Bo has probably rushed back from injury to try and help so any criticism is pretty harsh.

He was having an MVP-level season until he did his knee at the end of July.

f*** off, ump. Holy shit. That was as clear as it gets. It's one thing when it's a breaking ball but a straight fastball right in the zone should never be missed like that.
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I said at the time that he‘d likely play sparingly in sept once they fell out of the race.
 
TheMadHatTrick said:
That can literally be said every year by almost every team. Funny how in your world management is never responsible for anything except when the team does well. But when that happens they were brilliant! lol

It's the players fault obviously, but who assembles that collection of players and the staff that oversees them, or the coaches that deploy them? :huh:
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You can build a good team and manage a good team but at some point the players are accountable.

Like, in the first 3 games of this series Guerrero/Bichette/Springer/Kirk are a combined 5-40 with 0 XBH. And Chapman/Belt/Jansen are injured.

So you go into the biggest series of the year and get ... 0 XBH from your best 7 hitters in the first 3 games. These are good hitters with great track records. What is upper management supposed to do about that? What has Schneider done wrong?

Hitting coaches, yeah. Probably want to do something there.

This team *should* be good. It's f***ing bizarre how this season has gone, between the RISP weirdness and then a bunch of veteran bats just disappearing as the season has gone along.
 
ChuckNorris4Cup said:
He was hitting timely HR being clutch what this team desperately lacks now. And you could just see how his numbers were improving every year, he had a breakout year, but you could tell it was no fluke, the injury kind of hurt, but the potential was there and you could see it.
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You also shouldn't underestimare the downstream effects of these changes. Chemistry is still a thing and Teo and Gurriel were well liked in the clubhouse. Say what you will about last years team, but they played with energy and enthusiasm for better or worse, and they were fun to watch.
 
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Like, in the first 3 games of this series Guerrero/Bichette/Springer/Kirk are a combined 5-40 with 0 XBH. And Chapman/Belt/Jansen are injured.

What is upper management supposed to do about that? What has Schneider done wrong?

Hitting coaches, yeah. Probably want to do something there.

This team *should* be good. It's f***ing bizarre how this season has gone, between the RISP weirdness and then a bunch of veteran bats just disappearing as the season has gone along.
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Assemble a team that's good enough to make the playoffs confortably and not be dependent on a series win at the end of the year to make it by the skin of their teeth?
 
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