Blue Jays GDT: 2023 v11 | Wed, Sept 21 | @ NYY | 7:00pm ET/4:00pm PT | Berrios vs Cole

[KPower]

Shatkins and Schneider still have fanboys? interesting

 

[MS]

Assemble a team that's good enough to make the playoffs confortably and not be dependent on a series win at the end of the year to make it by the skin of their teeth?

I mean, where would this team be sitting if their top 5 bats had met expectations?

Stop pitching to Seager, FFS.

 

[ClarkSittler]

This umpire is a joke.

 

[ClarkSittler]

Nice grab KK!

Now let's score some runs for a change.

 

[Da Cool Rula]

While I question Schneiders decisions at times Atkins is disgusting. Clear as day hitting coaches at the very least had to be changed.

 

[Cloned]

I’ve never seen a team with a poorer approach to hitting. How many 3-1 counts have they pissed away this season? JFC.

 

[Nineteen67]

The Blue Jays have the Red Sox and the Yankees coming up in their schedule.

Both the Red Sox and the Yankees are shells of the teams they once were.

Even so, it’s going to be tough for them to go 8-7.

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

Come on Schneider get ejected

 

[The Nemesis]

Jesus. You're killing me, blue...

and then he has the audacity to chirp the Jays bench when he would've tossed them out for screaming profanities half as loud as he was.

 

[MSZ]

This is deadlier than the dead ball era.

 

[Nineteen67]

I mean, where would this team be sitting if their top 5 bats had met expectations?

Stop pitching to Seager, FFS.

88-92 Wins.

 

[MS]

f*** me, Gausman is getting screwed.

88-92 Wins.

So you're saying that if Guerrero/Kirk/Springer were at a 125-150 OPS+ as anyone would have reasonably expected before the season ... they'd have exactly the same record?

 

[mikeyz]

Shatkins and Schneider still have fanboys? interesting

You're surprised Shatkins has fanboys??

Dubas still has fans boys among Toronto sports fans and he's not here anymore. LMFAO

Just shows you the intelligence level of this fanbase.

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

101 pitches already wow

 

[shaner8989]

Imagine trading the best defensive catcher in baseball for a guy who can’t even be an mlb regular because he’s a pos.

Imagine trading Teo who would lead this team in HR AND RBI for a reliever who isn’t even a closer when your team is a f***ing joke offensively

Imagine the loser who made these moves doesn’t even get questioned

 

[mikeyz]

88-92 Wins.

I think even 85 wins might be generous looking at their remaining 15 games after tonight.

 

[shaner8989]

Gausman has been f***ing garbage down the stretch here.

This team is legit trash.

 

[jetsforever]

I would have given Gausman one more out

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

What if Jays don't resign Ryu, and somehow trade Springer, and sign Ohtani.....

 

[Da Cool Rula]

Let’s go Vladdy stop stressing @shaner8989

I would have given Gausman one more out

Me too

 

[ChuckNorris4Cup]

This umpire obviously attended the Angel Hernandez Academy

 

[TMLeafer]

Wtf is this ump looking at

 

[shaner8989]

Lifeless trash

 

[rboomercat90]

I can understand, it's always good to have a critical lens of the organization. Nobody is perfect in this org, not even Babe Schneider (who is as close to perfect as it comes right now).

But we're also witnessing a team that could potentially hit that 90 win mark again and still not make the playoffs. That would be another "successful season" (like 2021) that reaps no rewards. It's fair to say that there are big questions and decisions to be made during the offseason, but this is potentially an unprecedented result.

90+ win teams that did not make postseason since WC2+WC3 was added:

2022 - None
2021 - Jays (91) and Mariners (90)
2020 - None
2019 - Guardians (93)
2018 - Rays (90)
2017 - None
2016 - None
2015 - None
2014 - None
2013 - Rangers (91)
2012 - Rays (90)

The Blue Jays have had one period of time where they hit 90+ wins 3 years in a row ('91, '92, and '93). Obviously two of those culminated in the only championships the Jays have won, but for some to compare the current regime to Ricciardi seems distorted.

I wasn't around to witness the Gillick era, but it feels like some people here have completely forgotten just how bad this Jays team was after him. Even if they miss out this year, which would absolutely be disappointing, how does it stack up to 1987? Or even '88 and '90 for that matter? I'd rather they be in a race than suffering through the 20+ years of mediocrity again.

It’s the same level of mediocrity today that it was back then. The only difference today is that there are 3 wild card teams that make the post season whereas back then there was only 1 wild card team and in some of those years there were none. These teams today seem better because they’re in a post season race late into the season. If this was the Pat Gillick era this team would have been dead and buried before the end of April after the hot start the Rays had. Kind of like how the Jays were, thanks to the Tigers, in 1984. Don’t let the current playoff format fool you into thinking Shapiro and Atkins have been better than they’ve been. They’ve been awful.

 

[jcs0218]

What if Jays don't resign Ryu, and somehow trade Springer, and sign Ohtani.....

The Blue Jays won't be able to match the types of offers that will come from the Dodgers and Yankees, plus Los Angeles and New York are far more appealing markets to celebrities with the stature of Ohtani.