GDT: 2023 Training Camp Thread.

[bleedgreen]

Is Orlov always this heavy at 214 pounds, at 5’11? He’s either an absolute muscular tank or he came into camp overweight. He’s the third heaviest player on the team behind 6’6 Burns & 6’4 Staal.

I saw the same video being referenced and I’d go with “absolute muscular tank”. The video also talks about everyone being impressive with his work ethic.

 

[Svechhammer]

Dear league. Get f***ed, its our time

 

[NotOpie]

Necas is at center for playmaking. Tuevo is in that group so they have somebody who can actually win faceoffs.

 

[Boom Boom Apathy]

While I don't disagree with you, Rod is also a coach who changes his lines up A TON. The only set line he's really settled on lately had been Nino-Staal-Fast with Marty taking Nino's spot once Nino left. Every other line changes pretty damn consistently. So I'm not sure it really matters what opening night lineup is or what camp lineup is. It's all going to change.

Sure, Every coach changes lines up way more than fans want them to if things get stale. Certainly RBA will and I wasn't implying otherwise.

Thing is, we have a veteran team and there are some scenarios that will very likely play out to start the season and it's indicative in the initial training camp line-ups, barring a trade or injury.

Defense:
1) Slavin-Burns and Skjei-Pesce will very likely be together due to their history and success in the past.
2) That leaves Orlov and either TDA or Chatfield. IMO, TDA will get the nod as they want him on the PP.

Offense:

1) Aho will very likely be with Jarvis and 1 other "heavier" player. That means either Bunting or Svech.
2) Staal will be with at least 1 of Martinook or Fast, maybe both if Svech isn't ready opening night.
3) Svech-KK-Necas will likely be a line if Svech is healthy. If not, I would expect TT to be there.
4) The rest of the guys will be rotating on the 4th line.

Down the road that may change (ie..try a Svech-Aho-Necas line for instance), but given what we've seen in the past, I think it's just coach speak (or reporter speak) to say these lines don't mean much right now.

 

[LakeLivin]

Sure, Every coach changes lines up way more than fans want them to if things get stale. Certainly RBA will and I wasn't implying otherwise.

Thing is, we have a veteran team and there are some scenarios that will very likely play out to start the season and it's indicative in the initial training camp line-ups, barring a trade or injury.

Defense:
1) Slavin-Burns and Skjei-Pesce will very likely be together due to their history and success in the past.
2) That leaves Orlov and either TDA or Chatfield. IMO, TDA will get the nod as they want him on the PP.

Offense:

1) Aho will very likely be with Jarvis and 1 other "heavier" player. That means either Bunting or Svech.
2) Staal will be with at least 1 of Martinook or Fast, maybe both if Svech isn't ready opening night.
3) Svech-KK-Necas will likely be a line if Svech is healthy. If not, I would expect TT to be there.
4) The rest of the guys will be rotating on the 4th line.

Down the road that may change (ie..try a Svech-Aho-Necas line for instance), but given what we've seen in the past, I think it's just coach speak (or reporter speak) to say these lines don't mean much right now.

I'm looking at the average amount of PP time TDA would play during a game vs. the amount of 5-on-5 time the "3rd pair" would get if Orlov is on it and thinking Chat will split time with TDA to some extent. Maybe Chat gets some games on the road where Rod can't dictate the defensive match ups?

 

[Bunch of Jurcos]

One thing I am interested to watch is how Svech looks when he comes back. I remember Derrick Rose said he was a bit hesitant to do the same things he did before the injury and I'm wondering if somehow it will affect Svech's game. I don't think so, but I also did not expect him to disappear in the Boston series after the Lindholm hit so honestly who knows.

 

[Derailed75]

The fact that our PP1 has 2 Dmen on it and they may very well score more then if it was 4 O and 1 D is pretty insane

 

[Svechhammer]

Providing without comment

 

[A Star is Burns]

Providing without comment

 

[WreckingCrew]

Providing without comment

"You were adopted"

 

[AD Skinner]

"You were adopted"

“You’re playing game 1 with the big club”

 

[Chrispy]

Providing without comment

I know you get tired of "Say cheese!", but if you want to stay a Canes photographer you need to pick a different phrase than "IAN COLE!"

 

[bleedgreen]

I feel like Bunting and Noesen are a bit redundant on that second unit. Sounds like a plan for Necas and TT to play catch until Orlov is ready for the bomb and let those two bury rebounds. Also feels like we’re short a pp forward which is impressive since we have two d on one of the units.

 

[SvechneJerk]

I feel like Bunting and Noesen are a bit redundant on that second unit. Sounds like a plan for Necas and TT to play catch until Orlov is ready for the bomb and let those two bury rebounds. Also feels like we’re short a pp forward which is impressive since we have two d on one of the units.

Feels like Suzuki would be better suited, skillwise, for a spot on PP2. I'd love it if the kid could continue that prospect camp scoring touch in training camp. Rooting for him.

 

[Anton Dubinchuk]

I feel like Bunting and Noesen are a bit redundant on that second unit. Sounds like a plan for Necas and TT to play catch until Orlov is ready for the bomb and let those two bury rebounds. Also feels like we’re short a pp forward which is impressive since we have two d on one of the units.

Maybe, but I think you put KK in one of those spots and all of the sudden you don’t feel a man short.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Getting stronger…..should lead to better output.

 

[chaz4hockey]

Ugh. First day:


Update:

 

[MinJaBen]

That was fast. Did he make fun of Rod’s protein shake or something?

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

That was fast. Did he make fun of Rod’s protein shake or something?

I didn’t realize he was coming over to North America I had been hoping he’d play this season against better competition.

 

[Eegs]

Dear league. Get f***ed, its our time

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In the yearly countdown thread, I just posted the iconic picture of Brind'Amour raising the cup in front of the team. Compositionally, it's just a beautiful photo. There are three layers to it, a background layer of the fans that's somewhat darkened, a middle layer of the team, and Brind'Amour...

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NHL needs more Jarvy Juice. I'm certainly drinking it.

 

[WreckingCrew]

Ugh. First day:


Update:

Ah yes, the old day-to-day-to-day-to-day-to-day-to-day-to-day

 

[mikeyfan]

I didn’t realize he was coming over to North America I had been hoping he’d play this season against better competition.

No where to play him with no AHL affiliate. He could play in the ECHL but would that be any better than playing at home?

 

[To Be Determined]

No where to play him with no AHL affiliate. He could play in the ECHL but would that be any better than playing at home?

just because they don't have an affiliate agreement doesn't mean players in our system are barred from the ahl. we can loan them to any team that will work with us. not ideal, as they won't be getting coaching from guys picked by the canes, but guys can work on getting used to north american ice against better competition.

for vondras specifically, at his age, minors in north america isn't really a bad option for learning a new land.

 

[Borsig]

Orlov at 8m on the 3rd pair.

Kay.

 

[Cardiac Jerks]

No where to play him with no AHL affiliate. He could play in the ECHL but would that be any better than playing at home?

That’s not really correct. He hasn’t signed his ELC yet and hasn’t really played above the u20 level in Czechia so I doubt the lack of an ahl affiliate has anything to do with it. I doubt he was ever really being considered for a spot there considering this and also with Kochetkov and Perets already under contract

The ohl will be better for him than u20 in czechia. Higher level of play.