GDT: 2023 Trade Deadline

[Emperoreddy]

That gotta f***ing hurt for LAK fans

I dare them to start him tomorrow.

 

[billingtons ghost]

Would LOVE Crouse. Beef up the bottom 6 with guys talented enough to play Top 6

I'd love Crouse or Wilson but it's sadly out of our reach for a number of reasons now, I think.

 

[Guttersniped]

Coyots have a lot of picks for period when they play on the little stadium. Cooley and 2023 early pick are only starting to cook. And Voracek(Are they didn`t trade him?) can play supportive role for young players. On my taste it`s better than through guys in fire like we did with Jack, Yegor and Janne.

The problem with this organisation is they should find better coaches for develop their young players. They have talent, but they were not good in development of them.

They’re becoming a completely new organization under Armstrong.

The process is very early considering they completely missed out on the very good 2020 draft due to having no picks in the first 3 rounds.

They had one 1st round pick in 2021, the #9 (Guenther), three 2nds and no 3rds.

The 2022 draft was a big haul but it might be a weaker draft. So this draft will be huge for them.

If they get a great player with their 1st plus keep building prospects they can really have something in a few years. The plan is to have a young great team in a new arena in Tempe.

The Coyotes have never had a 1OA or 2OA pick.

If they don’t get a new arena deal then the team actually has to move.

I don’t have affection for Coyotes or think their owner is gem but people are ridiculous about the team. Plenty of people thought we didn’t deserve a team either due to our attendance.

I don’t throw stones with this shit, ever. Feels gross. I legit thought the team was a goner at points in the early 1990s and doing that to other fans is something I don’t do.

That gotta f***ing hurt for LAK fans

Wow. This is so weird.

 

[Emperoreddy]

Don't know if it got mentioned but the league told the Rags to f*** off with their emergency call up request

 

[HBK27]

This is other teams using Arizona to dump contracts, which gains the dumping teams a competitive advantage by being able to get out of shitty moves they shouldn't have made, nearly consequence free. Yes Arizona gets a pick for their services, but it's of minimal value to them.

It's cap laundering, and it skews the competitive balance that should be imposed by the cap.

OK, so what's the solution then?

Do you force teams to have to actually pay out $61M in salary from their pockets and not insurance this year to meet the salary cap floor?

 

[Nubmer6]

Aren't we the ones who started this? If I remember correctly, the first deal of this kind is when we dumped Malakov's contract + a 1st to the Sharks for some garbage.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

OK, so what's the solution then?

Do you force teams to have to actually pay out $61M in salary from their pockets and not insurance this year to meet the salary cap floor?

You set hard limits on amount of dead contract money allowed to reach cap floor. Like 15% or max of 2 contracts. Beyond that pay a penalty tax to go beyond it like a luxury tax for exceeding the soft cap in other sports. And maybe those limits are softer for players already on your roster at the start of the season and more limited for trades/waiver claims so you can't go dumpster diving to pick them up.

Make it hurt in real cash with no return and thus no benefit. Then teams won't sign outlandish max term contracts knowing they can just find a buyer down the line that is trying to save money like AZ is now.

 

[HBK27]

Don't know if it got mentioned but the league told the Rags to f*** off with their emergency call up request

As they should've. Essentially, the Rangers had the opportunity to recall someone and not be shorthanded tonight, but they decided to trade for Kane instead.

 

[Richer's Ghost]

Good - at least part of the rules apply sometimes.

 

[HBK27]

Aren't we the ones who started this? If I remember correctly, the first deal of this kind is when we dumped Malakov's contract + a 1st to the Sharks for some garbage.

Yeah, that might've been the original paying another team to take a contract to get under the cap move.

Wasn't Mogilny (during his 2nd stint here) also the first player banished to the minors as a cap move?

Lou was certainly a pioneer.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Can't mock the Rangers too badly, devils dressed only 15 skaters until they cleared cap space in 2010. It was riduculous.

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[Emperoreddy]

Can't mock the Rangers too badly, devils dressed only 15 skaters until they cleared cap space in 2010. It was riduculous.

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I'm just glad the league didn't cut them a break.

 

[HBK27]

 

[Guttersniped]

OK, so what's the solution then?

Do you force teams to have to actually pay out $61M in salary from their pockets and not insurance this year to meet the salary cap floor?

The cap is meant to reflect revenue, so I don’t even see the issue with a team with so little revenue spending very little.

Their revenue must be mind-bogglingly bad. They’re on Bally Sports Arizona so even that revenue is in short term peril.

If they get a new arena deal they’ll make up for it, if they don’t the team has to move.

I have no idea where their arena deal negotiations are at and have zero interest in learning about them. (I found ours endless and tedious and I cared about those.)

I assume they get it done. If they don’t, then yes, this will be a big failure. A new hockey only arena in Arizona will make more money than them being tenants in someone else’s arena though. It’s the right move.

And complaints that this is “embarrassing”? Is this high school? Will the other major sports leagues make fun of us in the lunch room?

 

[HBK27]

The cap is meant to reflect revenue, so I don’t even see the issue with a team with so little revenue spending very little.

Their revenue must be mind-bogglingly bad. They’re on Bally Sports Arizona so even that revenue is in short term peril.

If they get a new arena deal they’ll make up for it, if they don’t the team has to move.

I have no idea where their arena deal negotiations are at and have zero interest in learning about them. (I found ours endless and tedious and I cared about those.)

I assume they get it done. If they don’t, then yes, this will be a big failure. A new hockey only arena in Arizona will make more money than them being tenants in someone else’s arena though. It’s the right move.

And complaints that this is “embarrassing”? Is this high school? Will the other major sports leagues make fun of us in the lunch room?

Yeah, I have no problem with them spending little actually money during seasons when their goal is to suck and acquire assets. Hopefully for them they can put some of that savings into scouting and managerial positions.

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

so whats Vegas' actual salary cap hit now? Its gotta be close to $100 million

 

[MauDevils]

Vegas fans went from Timo Meier to Jonathan Quick...ouch.

 

[minibrodeur]

I can get on board with Bjugstad. Wouldn't cost much or sacrifice anything, gives us some C depth, size and a RHS that we can likely afford. Could even split Bratt and Jack and look real deep.

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Haula Hughes Meier
Palat Bjugstad Bratt
Yegor McLeod Bastian

Wood + Boqvist

 

[AfroThunder396]

Can't mock the Rangers too badly, devils dressed only 15 skaters until they cleared cap space in 2010. It was riduculous.

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I was at one of those games, in 2010, against Buffalo. It was our first win of the season, it was a 0-0 tie until Kovalchuk scored in overtime.

I specifically remember we could only dress 16 skaters because of the cap, and then in the 1st period Mark Fraser takes a fighting major and has to sit in the box for 5 mins, so now we're down to 10 forwards and 5 defenseman. I remember thinking 'what a f***ing idiot'.

 

[Devils731]

I was at one of those games, in 2010, against Buffalo. It was our first win of the season, it was a 0-0 tie until Kovalchuk scored in overtime.

I specifically remember we could only dress 16 skaters because of the cap, and then in the 1st period Mark Fraser takes a fighting major and has to sit in the box for 5 mins, so now we're down to 10 forwards and 5 defenseman. I remember thinking 'what a f***ing idiot'.

I have a Facebook memory of a photo I took of the bench being so empty.

 

[Poppy Whoa Sonnet]

Arizona's gonna dump Schmaltz that much I"m sure of. Probably to Carolina for nothing.

 

[Emperoreddy]

so whats Vegas' actual salary cap hit now? Its gotta be close to $100 million

It seems because of LTIR they still have $2 million in space

 

[Zajacs Bowl Cut]

It seems because of LTIR they still have $2 million in space

yeah, but their actual cap hit is over $96 million lmao

 

[Blackjack]

And complaints that this is “embarrassing”? Is this high school? Will the other major sports leagues make fun of us in the lunch room?

I’m embarrassed that this league that has had multiple sexual assault scandals, drafted kids that bullied other kids in horrific ways, thumbed their nose at the LGBTQ community, and done essentially nothing to remove dirty, debilitating hits from the game has a franchise that is struggling financially.

 

[FinnishDevil]