Confirmed with Link: JT Miller traded to NYR for Chytil, Mancini, 1st round pick (protected)

[NickyFotiu]

 

[zlev]

ugh, awful awful trade. really gonna miss Chytil.

 

[Bacon Artemi Bravo]

I was never high on a move for JTM but this is a f***ing steal for this caliber player. Top 13 protection is better than I thought drury would be able to get.

 

[SnowblindNYR]

Meh… I don’t hate the price, especially because I never saw Mancini as more than a 4-6 and Chytil is a 40 game player regardless of how good he is. I like the things Miller brings to a very “soft” room… I’m not unhappy with the trade but I’m just not really seeing the vision here unless we actually find a way to offload Zibanejad. Miller isn’t gonna be the 1C on a Cup winner, but Miller and Trochek are fantastic middle six centers with character. Problem remains the same as always… no 1C, no cup.

I don't know about this year's version but isn't he a multiple 100 point player? Why are people in 2025 acting like you still need Crosby in his prime as a #1 center on a cup winner?

 

[bobbop]

lol, I'm a Rangers, Mets, Giants, fan. Why would I be happy. And I'm old, tired of seeing the endless squandering of assets. I will say I am overall happy with the trade. It heavily favors the Rangers. But if it's a trade that supposed to supplement the current vet core, than yeah I like it less. However if it's the first domino in more moves to come (Kreider, Lindgren, hopefully Zib down the road), and a complete shift from our veteran core than it may be the greatest move in a long time.

That's a lot of self inflicted pain.

I’m older but I see what Drury is doing. It’s another move, along with Schneider, Cuylle, Borgan, Rempe, Trocheck .and even Edstrom designed to give the team more sandpaper. The Rangers have been too soft. One trade won’t change that but there’s an underlying theme here.

 

[eco's bones]

I don't know about this year's version but isn't he a multiple 100 point player? Why are people in 2025 acting like you still need Crosby in his prime as a #1 center on a cup winner?

Only once. He had 103 last year. He made it to 99 in 21-22 though. In between was an 82 point year.

One of our major issues this year is the second line we started with has been dogshit and IMO it affects everything else. It makes Panarin's line easier to check and it put a lot more pressure on Chytil's line to produce. Zibanejad has just been lost all year long---Kreider not much better. Injury? I don't know. Smith has been the best of the three that started as a line this year.

Miller should give us back a second line. Whether we'll have enough to get into a playoff spot I don't know but at the least we should be a better team for this trade going into next year.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

I don't know about this year's version but isn't he a multiple 100 point player? Why are people in 2025 acting like you still need Crosby in his prime as a #1 center on a cup winner?

He eats on the PP and we already have a ton of power play merchants. He stinks defensively so all he does is magnify the problems they already have

But he’s an asshole so he’ll be good for the “culture” allegedly

 

[CasusBelli]

Hate the trade. Not opposed to trading the pieces we gave up. But for Miller and the two ancillaries? Big pass.

 

[SirGoose]

I think mediocrity is pretty much the norm league wide. Obviously you need good players to win but I really haven't seen much in the last few years, probably since Chicago/Pittsburgh, that doesn't make me think it's all just changing things around until you hopefully strike gold.
The mediocre Rangers went to more Conference Finals than the Avs with McKinnon, Landeskog, Rantananen and Makar, and now they've started dismantling that group (doesn't mean they can't go up again).
The Caps were the definition of mediocre until they weren't and won one with an ageing core.
The Blues were just flat out lucky
Vegas just keeps throwing darts until one lands

You do need some kind of plan, and I think Drury has one even though he is terrible at telling us what it is (and we may not like it anyway), but I think league wide there's a lot of 'put everyone in the car and then let Jesus take the wheel'

I really could not care less about anything outside of winning a Stanley Cup man Those conference finals might mean something to someone, and I'm happy they do, but for me? Nah. I'd take being an Avs fan, they got their cup. But with the Caps and to an extent Blues, yeah you're right. Vegas it's hard to put in any category. But going back as far as the Wings, you have 17 years with 3 exceptions to the rule of building a proper team for long term success. We're getting too old for praying luck is on our side.

 

[CasusBelli]

I wonder if people would have been OK with Zibanejad being traded this past offseason coming off a 72-point season after putting up a career high the prior season for this exact package. I know I would have. Vancouver getting out of the miller contract at the right time.

This is spot on. He’s skilled and has a decent (but grossly overrated) one timer. He used to be responsible defensively and decent at face offs. All in all, he was a good shooter and didn’t really excel at anything. A good second line center who overachieved one year and is now in rapid decline.

 

[wolfgaze]

What if the goal was to trade for someone who could potentially aggravate Zibanejad enough that he'll agree to waive his NMC?

 

[lakeshirts37]

Yeah, like, I could get behind this in a vacuum as an overall makeover of the team, if they decided to do that.

It doesn't feel like that. Until they prove to me otherwise, this is the Rangers kicking the can again because they can't help themselves.

Drury has made all of those guys available.

This is spot on. He’s skilled and has a decent (but grossly overrated) one timer. He used to be responsible defensively and decent at face offs. All in all, he was a good shooter and didn’t really excel at anything. A good second line center who overachieved one year and is now in rapid decline.

Who are you talking about?

 

[CasusBelli]

Drury has made all of those guys available.


Who are you talking about?

Mika

 

[kovazub94]

Thanks for the new thread.

I hate what this deal represents. If it signals a culture change and Krieder, Lindgren, and Zibanejad are gone in separate deals, fine.

What about 2 of the 3 scenario?

 

[ReleasO The KakkO]

A winner in this league requires a team that has focus in their construction with the time needed to nurture it. How long until we finally get that in New York?

Fantastic point. And since Quinn, the “construction” has been = The Globetrotters. (And don’t get me wrong, they’re fun to watch when it’s working.)

But JT Miller is no Globetrotter.

So who resolves the difference? JT? The remaining Globetrotters? That depressive hulk Laviolette?

IMHO, it will be Drury. He MUST make at least two more major moves by TDL (PS no way ALL of 20, 93, 55, and 79 are exiting by March 7th).

I’m hoping Drury can change the culture from Meadowlark to Maurice(lite), but I don’t have much confidence he’ll get us there.

Now, start whistlin, y’all…

“Going 'round the world
And comin' home again
Playin' around the world
Come along, my friend!“

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

Miller's absolutely a fantastic player but a majority of us did not believe this.

Rutherford primed the ones who did a week ago when he foreshadowed the trade.

There's a contingent who thought they shouldn't have made this trade without those pieces. Those people still think that.

If you reframed it as "Some Vancouver fans felt that trading a 1C who's recently removed from a 100 point season and decent success matching up against McDavid without getting back some more notable pieces who can make a difference" - that'd be more accurate.

There's absolutely a strong contingent, if not a majority, who felt that this was pretty screwed and is what it is and needed to be done to move on. Which sucks.

Okay, that's fair to frame it that way.

 

[Levitate]

Don’t hate the price (love Fil when he’s healthy but he spends too much time evey single year hurt or trying to find his game again), but not really sure where this team is going in the next few years.

Millers cap hit will be fine especially if they get out from under zibknejads contract but are they putting together a cup team in the time Miller has left as a 1C? How?

Also lol watch laviolete put him in PP2

 

[mike14]

I really could not care less about anything outside of winning a Stanley Cup man Those conference finals might mean something to someone, and I'm happy they do, but for me? Nah. I'd take being an Avs fan, they got their cup. But with the Caps and to an extent Blues, yeah you're right. Vegas it's hard to put in any category. But going back as far as the Wings, you have 17 years with 3 exceptions to the rule of building a proper team for long term success. We're getting too old for praying luck is on our side.

and that's fair enough. But 99% of your sports watching experience is going to suck then, so make sure you've got other things you enjoy

 

[ReleasO The KakkO]

A winner in this league requires a team that has focus in their construction with the time needed to nurture it. How long until we finally get that in New York?

Fantastic point. And since Quinn, the “construction” has been = The Globetrotters. (And don’t get me wrong, they’re fun to watch when it’s working.)

But JT Miller is no Globetrotter.

So who resolves the difference? JT? The remaining Globetrotters? That depressive hulk Laviolette?

IMHO, it will be Drury. He MUST make at least two more major moves by TDL (PS no way ALL of 20, 93, 55, and 79 are exiting by March 7th).

I’m hoping Drury can change the culture from Meadowlark to Maurice(lite), but I don’t have much confidence he’ll get us there.

Vegas just keeps throwing darts until one lands

 

[Glen Sathers Cigar]

I saw Frank Seravalli on a Canucks podcast reacting to the trade and he mentioned that the trade a couple weeks ago fell apart bc when Drury ran it up the flag pole, that Dolan said Vancouver needs to add to the deal.

Pretty funny getting Brannstrom who a few years ago a lot of folks on here would've traded massive packages to get.

I wonder if the D prospect Dorrington can be something.

Pretty wild to get a 100 point player for a protected 1st, a 25 year old center with great potential but serious injury concerns and a guy who was sort of found money as a 5th round pick. I get the age concerns, but this is a trade where we essentially paid pennies on the dollar for a borderline elite player due to extenuating circumstances off the ice.

 

[SirGoose]

and that's fair enough. But 99% of your sports watching experience is going to suck then, so make sure you've got other things you enjoy

Brother you're telling me. I'm a Jets fan too.

 

[ReleasO The KakkO]

he [Jones] could always go the Brandon Saad route. Refuse to go to Hartford and force the Rangers to terminate his contract.

Isn’t Jones on a two-way? Can that type of contract be termed?

 

[KennyWu]

Damn, I'm gonna miss Tro..

 

[NYRangers16]

I like it for the simple fact alone that JT Miller is a prick (on top of being a good hockey player with a 100pt ceiling) and that’s what we’ve needed for years. Milquetoast and bland core forever. Now we have our prick to lead us.

Chytil, Mancini and a protected first is legitimately pennies on the dollar for a player of JT’s caliber. Vancouver fans thought they were getting some combo of Laf, Schneider, K’Andre and a first maybe Perrault. Half their fans wanted to trade Petterson to keep JT. I personally love Fil but with his health I’m okay with him being the roster piece we moved. I’d bet good money Chytil doesn’t out produce miller at any point in the coming years. Kept our top prospects and got conditions on the first.

This could be a prelude to a Mika trade this summer as well.

Would’ve been a 10/10 if the pick was lower than a first but for me this is a good move.

This about sums up my take. And that's if Zibby/Kreider aren't moved out earlier.

 

[Oscar Lindberg]

Also, we're really f***ing old, and don't really feel close to winning.

Even taking the most generous view possible, nobody would say this is a top 5 team. Top 1 wins the Stanley Cup.

Yeah this is the biggest indictment of whatever Drury’s “vision” is

6 weeks ago this group isn’t good enough, and fast forward to today with he’s trading youth for win now pieces to make another run with this crew

Like f***ing pick a direction