2023 Tank Thread (Mod post Page 60)

[GunnarStahl]

Since it seems the Ducks will likely finish bottom 5 this year, I figured we should have a thread for discussing the implications of where the f***s will finish in the standings. As well as what factors could affect where they finish.

Tonight was interesting as all bottom 5 teams earned 2 points sans the Ducks and the Hawks.

Hey Folks,

Want to clear some of the air here, Tank talk is not an issue, please talk tank to your heart’s content here, totally understand how critical it is for that Future Potential Top pick. The issue is posting in the GDT, like you want the team to lose or make posts that you are angry they are winning or won the game, or bashing the team for not tanking.

The main reason is, to respect your fellow members. The GDT is about discussion of the game on a live basis and then post game discussion and opinions. A lot of fans are not rooting for the team to lose, and everyone has their views and opinions towards tanking, and may not want to discuss tanking in the GDT

If you guys have any concerns, feel free to PM me or another mod, and would be happy to explain more in detail.

Thanks!

Leo

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[Leonardo87]

i've never been more excited to root for the kings

Feels dirty. But we gotta lose and in regulation.

 

[Sean Garrity]

Feels dirty. But we gotta lose and in regulation.

I also want them to lose to the Kraken in the playoffs with home ice advantage.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

There are no defensemen available that will make this team not a bottom 10 team in the NHL next year.

If the Ducks get pick 1-3 it doesn't actually change anything in the short-term. They still need help in a lot of places.

I think Dumba might help them. Orlov might help.. There are defensemen.. We need a better coach and better system.

 

[Kalv]

Alternatively they could be altogether deflated if the Isles get a point today and knock them out of playoff contention.

I'm genuinely thinking Columbus passing us in the standings is more likely than many would think. Not saying it'll happen, it's still probably less likely than it happening, but it's not within the realm of impossible by any means.

Agreed. Wouldn't be surprised if it didn't happen, but also def wouldn't be surprised if we lose to LA in regulation and Columbus get at least one point vs PIT and BUF which is all they need to do. Sucks that the Buffalo game is on their B2B, but it is what it is. Also, Buffalo has a super young roster anyway, they'll probably not be ''sitting veterans to give a shout to the young guys" as much as other teams now might.

 

[Terry Yake]

are the pens 100% eliminated from the playoffs? if they are, maybe they'll rest guys against columbus and it'll be a more winnable game for the jackets

 

[Leonardo87]

are the pens 100% eliminated from the playoffs? if they are, maybe they'll rest guys against columbus and it'll be a more winnable game for the jackets

If the islanders get one point tonight against Montreal, then Pittsburgh is eliminated.

 

[HanSolo]

i've never been more excited to root for the kings

Possibly the one time in just under 30 years that both fanbases are rooting for the Kings to beat the Ducks (or at least a lot of Ducks fans are. Probably still plenty that aren't aware of the draft implications)

No chance the Ducks get last. Remember a few weeks ago when it looked like they had no shot at last and may pick around 6th? They needed everything to go right to get back to last. And then it DID go right. Then they blew it.

It's not going to happen twice.

I've been leaning heavily on the side of pessimism the past week but right now I feel like it's very possible to finish last.

The Kings severely outclass us and they have a vested interest in beating us to hold off the Kraken from taking their playoff seed. The Blue Jackets are going up against a team that in all likelihood will be reeling from an emotional elimination from the playoffs and a team that will be playing their virtually unheard of fourth game in 5 days.

Can the Ducks piss on their own opportunity by getting to OT against the Kings? Sure. The Blue Jackets could also drop their last two in regulation. But to me, it seems highly likely that the Kings will beat us in regulation and decently likely that the Blue Jackets will get at least one point.

 

[Mr Rogers]

I've always felt like Todd McClellan is the type of coach who assesses his team on a very granular level, like even period-by-period and certainly on a per game basis. just based on his comments after games. I definitely think he'd do everything he can to get them to end on a high note, but obviously the fact that Seattle has leverage on them is comforting.

 

[Gliff]

I think Dumba might help them. Orlov might help.. There are defensemen.. We need a better coach and better system.

There are solid second pairing guys. We were a bottom 10 team with Lindholm and Manson and there is no combination of guys that will equal them. Even if we added Dumba and Orlov, which isn't going to happen unless we massively overpay, do you think that takes them out of the bottom 10? I wouldnt bet on it.

 

[HanSolo]

The more I've been thinking about it, I think that even if we stayed pat at 31st, it's not the worst outcome by any means. The aggregate odds of picking between 1-3 is higher than the odds of dropping to fourth overall even if fourth overall is the single highest chance outcome at 40.2%. And given that we were fighting to not pick 5th or 6th, fourth overall wouldn't be the end of the world. Even if Michkov makes me nervous.

Just need to lose in regulation.

 

[ADHB]

Mobile app for example doesn't show it whatsoever. The regular website also is quite flawed displaying the standings properly, FWIW. The NHL really ought to seek new people to run their bread-and-butter media.

Don’t know what type of phone you have, but at least on iOS the mobile app shows you RW, ROW, etc. if you rotate it to landscape when looking at the standings.

 

[Kalv]

Don’t know what type of phone you have, but at least on iOS the mobile app shows you RW, ROW, etc. if you rotate it to landscape when looking at the standings.

Oh... I think I have auto-turn turned off for some reason. Need to try this when I'm back into shrimp pose

 

[Mr Rogers]

Great season for McTavish, far exceeded my expectations for him and showed things i didn't know he was capable of.

 

[Ducks DVM]

Wishing for player injuries is still against site rules. Also, against our own players?

 

[Trojans86]

There are no defensemen available that will make this team not a bottom 10 team in the NHL next year.

If the Ducks get pick 1-3 it doesn't actually change anything in the short-term. They still need help in a lot of places.

I disagree. A new coach could have a massive impact by himself and with another year of development for an extremely young team plus drysdale plus a good veteran minute eating d I think we could easily be better than bottom 10. That’s a pretty low bar.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

There are solid second pairing guys. We were a bottom 10 team with Lindholm and Manson and there is no combination of guys that will equal them. Even if we added Dumba and Orlov, which isn't going to happen unless we massively overpay, do you think that takes them out of the bottom 10? I wouldnt bet on it.

We are not a bottom team if we have a competant coach and that can teach these young guys how to defend.. We need a team defense mentality to win games.

 

[Ducks DVM]

We are not a bottom team if we have a competant coach and that can teach these young guys how to defend.. We need a team defense mentality to win games.

I dunno. That next tier is St Louis, Ottawa, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Nashville, and Calgary. Plus, one would assume pressure from an improved Detroit, who’s ahead of us in the rebuild department. I think 10ish is reasonable, but the defense will still be a major weakness.

I think everyone has forgotten just how positionally unsound Drysdale is at actually playing defense.

 

[2faded]

Wishing for player injuries is still against site rules. Also, against our own players?

I hope Rico bangs his shin on the bed frame in the middle of the night when he gets up to pee.

 

[ohcomeonref]

I hope Rico bangs his shin on the bed frame in the middle of the night when he gets up to pee.

I only want the worst for this man: I hope he steps on a piece of Lego.

 

[LiveLaughDucks]

I hope Rico makes a cup of coffee for his morning commute but forgets it at home on the counter. There, I said it.

 

[Terry Yake]

Wishing for player injuries is still against site rules. Also, against our own players?

wasn't hoping for henrique or vatrano to get injured. i meant it as i'm hoping they're also shut down like mctavish is

 

[Ducks DVM]

Still listed on nhl.com as 7. Weird.

Ticketmaster too.

Update - I checked with my rep, and the game is at 7, they just put the wrong time on the Jumbotron.

Perhaps it’s the same person running the PP.

 

[Ducks DVM]

I hope Rico makes a cup of coffee for his morning commute but forgets it at home on the counter. There, I said it.

I only want the worst for this man: I hope he steps on a piece of Lego.

I hope Rico bangs his shin on the bed frame in the middle of the night when he gets up to pee.

I put these in the likely order to where it all makes sense.

Also, a Lego? Serious evil in your heart.

 

[pbgoalie]

Great season for McTavish, far exceeded my expectations for him and showed things i didn't know he was capable of.

Given a heck of a long season for a kid he was impressive. And having a kid impress with work ethic is always exciting!!

 

[HanSolo]

I dunno. That next tier is St Louis, Ottawa, Buffalo, Pittsburgh, Nashville, and Calgary. Plus, one would assume pressure from an improved Detroit, who’s ahead of us in the rebuild department. I think 10ish is reasonable, but the defense will still be a major weakness.

I think everyone has forgotten just how positionally unsound Drysdale is at actually playing defense.

That's my big concern with guys like Zell and Minty. They seem solid in their own end in juniors but the NHL is a different animal. Lacombe looked decently capable with good emphasis on cutting off passing and skating lanes with his positioning and stick. But a trio of Drysdale, Zellweger and Mintyukov needs to be offset with some defensively responsible guys. We'll see how the other two look when they actually make it but my money would be on them being a little closer to average defensively