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Live in the Now said:
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See, like I said. A DESERVED club legend
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Klopp is also the bloke who said the Caciedo deal was happening.
 
Random question - can players be given payment from the other club for a loan?

E.g., hesitant player but is given a major bonus direct from the club that would be taking the player on loan.
 
Not sure anybody mentioned it, but Sangare went to Forest. I can only imagine the guy got a massive pay boost because it makes no sense to leave PSV in the CL for them.
 
Peen said:
Bayern selling Pavard and Gravenberch without replacements is weird to me. Villa not signing a Mings replacement. List goes on. Feels like a lot of teams could have made improvements and the market has shifted towards being a buyer’s one towards the end here IMO.
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we loaned in Lenglet
 
—Bella-Kotchap ends up going to… PSV, on loan.
—Still waiting to see what Felix’s new wage is after he agreed a new deal with Atleti on a lower wage before the loan went through. I can’t imagine he took that big a pay cut.
—Even with paying a % of their wages in the cases of the loans, Barca offloaded a ton of salary mass with Fati, Lenglet and Garcia.
—Barca have brought in LAFC’s Mamadou Fall on loan. He’ll play for the B team. Interesting looking player, but I‘ve literally seen less than 2 minutes of him. It was rumored there’d be a purchase option.
—Even with Felix coming in, Vitor Roque coming in Januaryand with Lewandowski, Ferran, Raphinha and Yamal still in the team Xavi supposedly asked for another attacker.

Savant said:
And Pau Torres exists
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Next season we’ll be swapping Lenglet for Torres, right @JPBolts ?
 
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Blender said:
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Regarding FFP, a large chunk of those sales are also FFP profits.

One of the advantages they have of running the loan army is that they have a *lot* of players that aren't being amortized anymore (or have hardly anything left) that can bring in profitable sales or loan fees. So if they have an owner who is willing to front a truckload of cash (which they do) they're able to spend a lot on incoming transfers.

Plus with all the players coming in and busy ticking down their own amortization, they'll be able to ship out failures in a couple years. If you spend 500M on players, sign them to 5 year deals, then 2 years later sell them for 300M total and buy 500M more in players to 5 years deals even though you had a net spend of 200M, that's neutral in FFP terms for that year compared to just keeping the original players.
 
hatterson said:
Regarding FFP, a large chunk of those sales are also FFP profits.

One of the advantages they have of running the loan army is that they have a *lot* of players that aren't being amortized anymore (or have hardly anything left) that can bring in profitable sales or loan fees. So if they have an owner who is willing to front a truckload of cash (which they do) they're able to spend a lot on incoming transfers.

Plus with all the players coming in and busy ticking down their own amortization, they'll be able to ship out failures in a couple years. If you spend 500M on players, sign them to 5 year deals, then 2 years later sell them for 300M total and buy 500M more in players to 5 years deals even though you had a net spend of 200M, that's neutral in FFP terms for that year compared to just keeping the original players.
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It depends on the conditions of the purchase, it's not just amortization, cold hard cash is also in the equation. Also the agents fees will be astromical for Chelsea. This is not sustaibale in regard to FFP.
 
Peen said:

This will be interesting.

Chelsea will be running a big squad with Deivid Washington reportedly staying as 3rd ST.

Poch wanted 22-23 players. He’s getting 27.

ST: Jackson, Broja, Washington
RW: Madueke, Palmer
LW: Sterling, Mudryk
10/SS: Nkunku, Chukwuemeka
CM: Enzo, Gallagher, Lavia
DM: Caicedo, Ugochukwu
LB: Chilwell, Cucurella, Maatsen
LCB: Badiashile, Colwill
RCB: Thiago, Disasi, Chalobah
RB: James, Gusto
GK: Petrovic, Sanchez, Bettinelli
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This is borderline CL squad for me (clearly behind some other clubs), but with no European games could push them over the line.

Attacking players and the keeper need to have career years for them to make it.
 
Greenwood to Getafe is hilarious on so many levels. Getafe of all teams. Couldn't think of a team that fits more with Greenwood's history
 
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