Transfer: 2023 Summer Transfer Rumors and Discussion - Closed Window Edition

[Duchene2MacKinnon]

 

[S E P H]

that's not a bad thing, mind you I'm not talking about young Premier League Can but older key dortmund player Can.

For 60 million, I want Santi Cazorla, not Emre Can.

 

[les Habs]

Are you hard of reading? You keep saying I said you said something when in reality, I keep saying that it was placed in the context of the conversation. Now, perhaps you don’t understand what context means or perhaps you don’t understand how conversations work. I can’t help you with those basics.

But yes, keep just tossing things aside and providing zero of your own argument. At least you get to look down your nose while saying stupid shit. For more "context," Gavi has played 2,258 league minutes (3,239 total), Camavinga has played 1,689 league minutes (3,006 total), Pedri has played 1,893 league minutes (2,626 total), and Tchouameni has played 1,815 league minutes (2,450 total). So the barca players have played a few more minutes than the Real Madrid players, although apparently it's a massive difference.

What'll actually happen is Ceballos will leave, Kroos and Modric will continue to play less, and there will be plenty of minutes for the clear succession plan of Camavinga, Tchouameni, Valverde, and Bellingham. Just like there would be plenty of minutes for Bellingham, Pedri, Gavi, and FdJ. The parallels are so blatant but I guess some people can't see them.

Or let's contextualize this another way. Both Camavinga and Tchouameni came to RM when RM had Modric, Kroos, Casemiro, Valverde, and Ceballos. Now, Casemiro left at the end of the window where Tchouameni came (showing that RM is clearly moving on from its older midfielders), but the idea that Bellingham will come and unsettle these guys when they knew what the midfield was like when they came is so goofy. It's wishcasting.

Maybe they will leave. But it won't be because they aren't playing enough. It'll be because they're more attracted to a new project or the new manager doesn't like them or for the money or something like that.

Now if you can please stop saying stupid stuff and making me be on Real Madrid's side, I would really appreciate it.

You attempting to place something in the context of the conversation doesn’t change the FACT that you have multiple times attributed things to me that I did not say.

For starters, I have provided my own argument. It’s really simple and you’ve done nothing to really even address it much less take it down because presumably you either can’t read, can’t comprehend what you’re reading or are obsessed with attributing things to me that I didn’t say. Instead you keep harping on about things that have zero relevance and then using dumb examples to try and back up your irrelevant points. Barca aren’t remotely relevant to the conversation because we’re not linked with Bellingham and because we have a completely different tactical setup including the formation right now. Comparing midfielders between the teams in some sort of numbers exercise is therefore irrelevant, and obviously so, and yet you’ve been banging on about it for how many posts now for no apparent reason. Additionally, you laughably went on about matches played and now have tried to save some face there by going on to minutes which is essentially irrelevant without the proper context (imagine that, someone posting as you have completely ignoring the obvious context) of which there are multiple points. And top it all off, you come out talking about how blatant the parallels are when in fact they are not even though the parallels you’re talking about are irrelevant even if they were blatant.

What’s great is you’ve once again added another point of context according to you and you even got that wrong! I mean it’s incredible. You keep throwing shit out there like this Casemiro example and they’re both wrong and irrelevant.

And now you’ve come out and said they will not leave because of a lack of playing time, which doesn’t address the whole point, but it’s good to have you on the record for that one.

The only one saying stupid shit is yourself, and you’re saying A LOT of it.

 

[les Habs]

He has given 0 effort at PSG, it’s obvious he went for the money

Read your statement back to yourself and then tell me that is the case. 15 goals and 15 assists in 28 league matches and 4 goals and 4 assists in 7 CL matches during a season that was interrupted by a World Cup where he played pretty much every minute and in the last year of his contract is 0 effort? Well shit, I’d love to see how good he’d be if he gave 50% effort.

Meh, as much as everyone (including me) love to shit on PSG, him having little choice doesn't absolve him from the way he's conducted himself at PSG. I can understand an adjustment period but at this point it's pretty clear that Messi's done little for them than take their money and (figuratively) laugh. I'm sure they don't help themselves at all but this looks like it was match made in hell.

Well I hope you didn’t get paid for this post or I could say the same. Like I’ve said, I don’t get why you’d agree to a promotional activity that likely takes you away from your club as the seasons is closing out (unless of course you had permission, but still that doesn’t change it for me), but how is it remotely clear that he did little for them apart from taking their money and laughing? Of all the transfers in the last two years this looks like a match made in hell? I’d love to see all the matches made in heaven then.

Damn. Good player. Should not be cheap.

Which is exactly why we’re not signing him.

Nunez also dominated in the CL and Mudryk didn't. Your point is correct. The GK and CB they paid for were top class. Anyone saying that about Mac Allister, sorry but no. I'll take him on my team but yes the market for really good players has been ruined.

Would have posted about the CL myself.

Comparing Benfica to Shakhtar is also disingenuous. Portugal has a much better league than Ukraine and always has. Ukraine's league has gotten worse since being bombed out of the country. Some of the teams have returned where they belong, but all the foreign talent left. The technical level in Ukraine isn't better than MLS even.

Ditto about the Portuguese league versus that in Ukraine. Rather surprising it these things need to be pointed out at all.

I honestly fear we get linked with him, and I’ve felt this way since before reading your post.

 

[Savant]

Mac Allister was one of the best players on a WC winner.

Sure; so you are saying that he has that propping up his value. Which is completely fine. It’s certainly a positive

For 60 million, I want Santi Cazorla, not Emre Can.

Cazorla was boss

 

[luiginb]

For 60 million, I want Santi Cazorla, not Emre Can.

You're not getting offensive contribution from Zubi, you'd have to look at his teammate Merino for that. You are getting a mature beyond his years jack of all trades with great positioning and a mean streak.

 

[bluesfan94]

You attempting to place something in the context of the conversation doesn’t change the FACT that you have multiple times attributed things to me that I did not say.

For starters, I have provided my own argument. It’s really simple and you’ve done nothing to really even address it much less take it down because presumably you either can’t read, can’t comprehend what you’re reading or are obsessed with attributing things to me that I didn’t say. Instead you keep harping on about things that have zero relevance and then using dumb examples to try and back up your irrelevant points. Barca aren’t remotely relevant to the conversation because we’re not linked with Bellingham and because we have a completely different tactical setup including the formation right now. Comparing midfielders between the teams in some sort of numbers exercise is therefore irrelevant, and obviously so, and yet you’ve been banging on about it for how many posts now for no apparent reason. Additionally, you laughably went on about matches played and now have tried to save some face there by going on to minutes which is essentially irrelevant without the proper context (imagine that, someone posting as you have completely ignoring the obvious context) of which there are multiple points. And top it all off, you come out talking about how blatant the parallels are when in fact they are not even though the parallels you’re talking about are irrelevant even if they were blatant.

What’s great is you’ve once again added another point of context according to you and you even got that wrong! I mean it’s incredible. You keep throwing shit out there like this Casemiro example and they’re both wrong and irrelevant.

And now you’ve come out and said they will not leave because of a lack of playing time, which doesn’t address the whole point, but it’s good to have you on the record for that one.

The only one saying stupid shit is yourself, and you’re saying A LOT of it.

Capitalizing fact doesn’t actually make it a fact. Didn’t bother to read the rest of this because if you can’t that part right, then what’s the point. P

 

[Live in the Now]

Ditto about the Portuguese league versus that in Ukraine. Rather surprising it these things need to be pointed out at all.

I also considered pointing out that Mudryk had scored two senior goals ever prior to this season. But then whatever I post will get lied about some other kind of way. To anyone who knows the sport Mudryk and Nunez's transfers, or even a base comparison (there is none) between Portugal and Ukraine, those are obviously not the same thing.

 

[les Habs]

Capitalizing fact doesn’t actually make it a fact. Didn’t bother to read the rest of this because if you can’t that part right, then what’s the point. P

No, capitalizing it doesn’t make it fact. Showing where you did it but one time does:

So your stance is that Barcelona wouldn't sell their young midfielders if they signed a new, young midfielder but Real Madrid would because reasons?

As for the rest, with your laughable posts you wouldn’t get it anyway.

 

[bluesfan94]

No, capitalizing it doesn’t make it fact. Showing where you did it but one time does:



As for the rest, with your laughable posts you wouldn’t get it anyway.

I got it. You don’t understand what question marks are. Hooked on Phonics can help!

I also considered pointing out that Mudryk had scored two senior goals ever prior to this season. But then whatever I post will get lied about some other kind of way. To anyone who knows the sport Mudryk and Nunez's transfers, or even a base comparison (there is none) between Portugal and Ukraine, those are obviously not the same thing.

Such a martyr.

 

[Live in the Now]

I got it. You don’t understand what question marks are. Hooked on Phonics can help!


Such a martyr.

I love the stuff you write because everyone knows how wrong it is. Keep it coming!

 

[les Habs]

I got it. You don’t understand what question marks are. Hooked on Phonics can help!

Yeah, saw this coming. Unbelievable and really weak, but expected. Question doesn’t change anything because of the question itself. A question saying ”your stance” and asking about something only you have attributed to me changes nothing. So once again, you’ve posted something totally irrelevant.

 

[bluesfan94]

My stance on the topic is clear if you have basic reading comprehension, which you clearly don’t have. So, I’m actually not arguing like a three year old, I’m arguing with a three year old.

Did you really just drop I know you are but what am I with a straight face? Anyway I’m done with this conversation. Intelligent people can understand the parallels but going back and forth isn’t achieving anything. Ciao.

 

[Savant]

I thought it was obvious from the start that I was directly responding to you. I just quoted someone else to agree with them.

This photo can mean at least two things in this context!

 

[bluesfan94]

This photo can mean at least two things in this context!

I think it means our team gets upset about draws while your coach celebrates them.

 

[Savant]

I think it means our team gets upset about draws while your coach celebrates them.

I mean I was just going to say that if we didn’t know that he was crying, it doubles as a face palm, which is what this conversation is making me want to do.

Is that really the best deflection that you can come up with? Because that is very weak. Luckily my coach has been to celebrate a lot more than draws though. Could be worse.

 

[Live in the Now]

I mean I was just going to say that if we didn’t know that he was crying, it doubles as a face palm, which is what this conversation is making me want to do.

Is that really the best deflection that you can come up with? Because that is very weak. Luckily my coach has been to celebrate a lot more than draws though. Could be worse.

The double meaning was what I was going for there. Resorting to name calling when it gets pointed out Ukraine's league is more equivalent to MLS than Portugal is weak. Didn't respond to the substance I posted whatsoever. The gall to simultaneously post some of this stuff in two different arguments? Lol.

 

[maclean]

Is it justifiable? Yes

Is it too much? Also yes

Fact is Chelsea destroyed the market and the 20-30m players are now 45-75m

So Chelsea is responsible for groceries costing twice what they used to too? I knew it

 

[Vasilevskiy]

Pablo Barrios is being linked with a loan to 1.FCU; unclear about whether there would be any sort of buy option.

Makes no sense that there would be one.

 

[Vasilevskiy]

For 60 million, I want Santi Cazorla, not Emre Can.

He's nothing like Cazorla. He plays similar to Rice IMO. But I think Rice is slightly better

 

[spintheblackcircle]

He shouldn't leave Brighton.

 

[cgf]

Makes no sense that there would be one.

It also doesn't make sense for us to pay 2M to loan a player without any sort of purchase possibility; we don't have money to burn like that. So I'm dubious of the whole rumor.

 

[phisherman]

@Corto @HajdukSplit How do you guys rate him?

 

[robertmac43]

So i got to support this guy now?

 

[KJS14]

I love the stuff you write because everyone knows how wrong it is. Keep it coming!

I don't really want to enter this conversation, but I really rolled my eyes at this given that @bluesfan94 is one of the few posters here who strongly articulates his points and uses appropriate analogies to explain them. You can tell he's a lawyer.

He's nothing like Cazorla. He plays similar to Rice IMO. But I think Rice is slightly better

Wouldn't hurt to bring in both Zubimendi and Rice if they can afford it. Especially if we're potentially selling ESR, Xhaka, and a few others.

Two of Zubimendi / Rice / Caicedo, CB, backup LB, and striker should be the targets.