Red Sox/MLB 2023 Regular Season VI: Hunt for the Wild Card is on

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yazmybaby

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Same. Team gets desperate enough and Paxton sitting there? Paxton + Duvall sitting there. Could net them something really nice for the future.
I would trade them both in a heartbeat, prices are up now with the deadline almost over. I would think that they could both get us a top 5 prospect, and a roster player ( SP) and I would settle for nothing less and the top 5 prospect has to be in at least AA right now. Dodgers might be a fit, their OF of Heyward/Peralta and Outman are no where near World Series calibre. Give me Andy Pages ( OF) and Bobby Miller ( SP). Paxton takes over for Miller and they get Walker Buehler back in Sept. Miller and Bello give us two solid RH starters for years to come. Pages can play RF, may need a little while longer in AAA.
 
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Some people on here seem content with being a middling team every year as long as the future looks bright with prospects and financial flexibility. There just doesn't seem to be a point where you would say ok we are in a good spot financially and with prospects now it's time to be aggressive. Being consistently decent is nice and all but the volatility of actually winning WS titles and then potentially finishing in last (oh by the way this year's Red Sox could easily finish in last) is better than continual mediocrity where you are afraid to do anything significant.

Does he get escorted by a police convoy to Safeco Field?
I believe you're thinking of the incident he had a couple years ago...
 

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E-Rod blocking the trade to LAD was interesting. If Sox can get him back, assuming he’d accept — can he block a trade to BOS? No idea — maybe Boston can get Rodriguez back and ship Paxton to the Dodgers for a good package. Still stay in the hunt and get future pieces from a deep system.
 

CDJ

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You can change the owner but you can’t change the Mets

And this is why everybody crying that we didn’t spend huge this winter looks silly (well that and almost every big free agent is either not good or injured aside from Swanson). You can’t win via free agency today.

Steve Cohen and Mets fans have learned this the hard way.
 
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You can change the owner but you can’t change the Mets

And this is why everybody crying that we didn’t spend huge this winter looks silly (well that and almost every big free agent is either not good or injured aside from Swanson). You can’t win via free agency today.

Steve Cohen and Mets fans have learned this the hard way.

Counterpoint:

Cohen turned his big money free agents into 2 top-70 prospects in all of baseball, which the Mets wouldn't have in the pipeline if he didn't have the financial advantage of signing and eating contracts.

I'm loving this dichotomy that we're seeing between Cohen and Seidler over reactions to their spending sprees going wrong. Cohen's flipping assets for future value, Seidler is doubling down to not take the L. Then there's whatever Arte Moreno is doing.
 

Johnnyduke

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You can change the owner but you can’t change the Mets

And this is why everybody crying that we didn’t spend huge this winter looks silly (well that and almost every big free agent is either not good or injured aside from Swanson). You can’t win via free agency today.

Steve Cohen and Mets fans have learned this the hard way.

The not spending has led to a middling team, not a wagon. Yippee! I think they should actually eliminate free agency entirely. Everyone gets so obsessed with it not being a good deal and how "that won't age well". Let's blackball the actual stars from the game and every team can simply go dumpster diving for the best financial deal. Put a salary cap on individual free agent contracts.
 

BruinsFanSince94

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I’ll be stunned if they don’t do anything. Unless Bloom is not long for the position and ownership said stand down? It’s just so odd they haven’t done anything yet.
 

Johnnyduke

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Talk to me about the payrolls of the two best teams in the AL East right now.
But they don't have middling teams. Meaning don't tell me how smart the Red Sox are to not spend when they are still spitting out a mediocre product.
 

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Counterpoint:

Cohen turned his big money free agents into 2 top-70 prospects in all of baseball, which the Mets wouldn't have in the pipeline if he didn't have the financial advantage of signing and eating contracts.

I'm loving this dichotomy that we're seeing between Cohen and Seidler over reactions to their spending sprees going wrong. Cohen's flipping assets for future value, Seidler is doubling down to not take the L. Then there's whatever Arte Moreno is doing.
Yeah idk if paying 80+ mill a year over a couple of years for prospects while murdering the CBT threshold is necessarily brilliant work though. Just reeks of somebody without an actual plan. It is better than what San Diego is doing though, they are completely and totally f***ed
 
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