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If Lindholm wants to know if Calgary will be better, and Scheifele wants to know if the Jets will be improved before committing, that makes it tough for the Bruins, who want to wait on Lindholm before chasing Scheifele.

It sounds like the Flames are the ones who have to make the first move in this chess game. If they elect to see what kind of a return they could get from the Bruins for Lindholm, that could get the ball rolling. If the trade package is high-end, they might pull the trigger.
 

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If Lindholm wants to know if Calgary will be better, and Scheifele wants to know if the Jets will be improved before committing, that makes it tough for the Bruins, who want to wait on Lindholm before chasing Scheifele.

It sounds like the Flames are the ones who have to make the first move in this chess game. If they elect to see what kind of a return they could get from the Bruins for Lindholm, that could get the ball rolling. If the trade package is high-end, they might pull the trigger.


I don't see anything in the article that says the Bruins are interested in either.

Just speculation which is the same as what fans here are doing

While moving on from Scheifele, who was attached at the hip with Wheeler for much of their time together in Winnipeg, still seems likely, it may have to wait as well. It’s possible Boston could enter the picture at some point. They likely have their eyes focused on what Elias Lindholm decides in Calgary first.

Whole article is based off that quote from another media person.
 
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If Lindholm wants to know if Calgary will be better, and Scheifele wants to know if the Jets will be improved before committing, that makes it tough for the Bruins, who want to wait on Lindholm before chasing Scheifele.

It sounds like the Flames are the ones who have to make the first move in this chess game. If they elect to see what kind of a return they could get from the Bruins for Lindholm, that could get the ball rolling. If the trade package is high-end, they might pull the trigger.

Writer in Winnipeg writes this:

“It’s possible Boston could enter the picture at some point. They likely have their eyes focused on what Elias Lindholm decides in Calgary first.”

And now Boston is trying to trade for Lindholm? “It’s possible…” “They likely have…”

This is the same crap as the Islanders Debrusk “rumor”.
 

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true. i blame ullmark more though.
tough pinning a game on a 3rd pair Dman making 1 million though.
I look at 9 million dollar man mcavoys game 7 disaster. and ullmarks meltdown.
Ullmark got hurt and bad 10 minutes in because Forbort got mixed up with Grzelcyk on which one was playing left defense and fell down - Ullmark made that outrageous swal save

I saw it. I was with another HF member. He saw it and I heard regardless where he said to the media he was hurt

it’s on video

Also Ullmark was 3-1 926 save % with first stars games 1 and 4

After the save Boston who hadn’t had even a shot attempt in over 8 minutes went to the regular lines

They had the next 21 shots on net and scored

Gotta give Sweens and players - they ain’t saying shit and never will but there’s some good stuff floating around

If they are mad at Ullmark it’s because he wanted in game 6 and he should have been more forthright

He absolutely should have been in gsme 5 -he was in relatively good to go
 

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Ullmark got hurt and bad 10 minutes in because Forbort got mixed up with Grzelcyk on which one was playing left defense and fell down - Ullmark made that outrageous swal save

I saw it. I was with another HF member. He saw it and I heard regardless where he said to the media he was hurt

it’s on video

Also Ullmark was 3-1 926 save % with first stars games 1 and 4

After the save Boston who hadn’t had even a shot attempt in over 8 minutes went to the regular lines

They had the next 21 shots on net and scored

Gotta give Sweens and players - they ain’t saying shit and never will but there’s some good stuff floating around

If they are mad at Ullmark it’s because he wanted in game 6 and he should have been more forthright

He absolutely should have been in gsme 5 -he was in relatively good to go

You can understand why Montgomery went with Ullmark in Game 6, absolutely. Agree with the decision or not (and many did not in the moment) it's defensible. There's a rational behind that decision.

There's zero defense or excuse for him not pulling Ullmark during the game when he clearly wasn't right. Not a MMQB situation, either. The GDT is full of people who could see what was going on in the moment and desperately wanted our coach to wake the f*** up.

Even if they still lost that game it would have helped Swayman shake off some rust if you needed him in Game 7, which they did. Maybe he doesn't give up that soft goal in the first if he plays in relief during Game 6.
 

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I don't see anything in the article that says the Bruins are interested in either.

Just speculation which is the same as what fans here are doing



Whole article is based off that quote from another media person.
That’s what you get on July 24 in an offseason thats lacking any significant movement. Writers are scouring message boards looking for anything. Hell it wouldn’t surprise me if some GM are scouring this very own site looking for the next possible great trade idea.
 

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When is Frederic’s hearing?

I believe the last day of July or around the first of August. I think.
You move Coyle you risk losing depth and flexibility , He capable of PP and Pk time ,he also can move up and down the lineup when needed short term , which might be called more if Bergey comes back with a iffy back.......So with this new found cap space who is his replacement and I doubt he will be able to to the job as well as Coyle.............I think Sweeney does not want to move Gryz in my opinion is a mistake if he is not going to be plyaed at playoff time..........in my opinion take what ever you can get for him and move ..........I also suggest go into camp and see what you have with Geekie , Bogvist and this coming from someone who has ripped Sweeney for not building his roster in the offseason . I think Sweeney has made moves to get younger , faster ,younger and more skilled , I also think those two players are no risk moves and potential high reward . I do not like the JVR signing but we shall see , hopefully I am wrong . I have said I would be in panic mode to aquire a center , that is why I prefer to see how this roster pans out ,although I am concerned with the defense and should be addressed at some point.............

I've been highly critical of Sweeney and Neely in this space, many times.

However, given that this is a/the bridge year, I'm fully in favor with what Sweeney has done this off season.

You can call them band aids but the older, proven players came cheap, can be let go painlessly, and were picked up in significant measure to challenge prospects for a given roster spot.

Part of Sweeney's MO is to force prospects to wrestle the job away from an established player and/or induce competition with multiple kids vying for the same position. No one is handed a job, and that's a smart way to run a hockey club. It's part of the Bruins "culture" and that's as it should be.

All of the pick ups/signings -- Ian Mitchell, Patrick Brown, Alec Regula, Jesper Boquist, Reilly Walsh, Keyser/DiPietro, Anthony Richard, Geek Out -- plus prospects fighting for jobs can only add competition, depth, and theoretically, a better roster on the ice come October.

Also, as Haggerty pointed out yesterday,



If, as both he and guest Evan Marinofsky believe, Matt Gryzlick is moved to make room for Frederic, Swayman and Bergeron contracts, it's conceivable that Mason Lohrei will take his place, opening night or thereafter.

If that happens, the Bruins will instantly ice a bigger, more rugged D corps across the board, averaging 6'3", 220 pounds.

That is something to like. Very much. It only took nearly a decade for Sweeney to get the message.

By the way, neither Haggerty nor Marinofsky want to part with Gryz. Given what Forbort brings as a PK specialist -- highlighted by a sudden drop in PK effectiveness when Forbort was out of the lineup with an injury last season -- Gryz would be the logical player to go.

This hinges on management's confidence that Lorhei can step into NHL duty at some point soon, even if he starts the year in PRO.

In that case, the Bruins would have to rely on... Jacob Zboril to contribute in the meantime.

Given Zboril's inconsistent, often poor performance and Montgomery's consequent reluctance to play him, that's a problem. At least in the interim.

You have to hope Mason will be ready, or nearly so, to join the Bruins sooner rather than later.

In the event, there will be a lot of story lines to follow going forward, and, hopefully, an entertaining season on tap.
Oh come on now. :laugh:
Yes, come on now. Tell us more.

That’s what you get on July 24 in an offseason thats lacking any significant movement. Writers are scouring message boards looking for anything. Hell it wouldn’t surprise me if some GM are scouring this very own site looking for the next possible great trade idea.

You undervalue the board.
 
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I believe the last day of July or around the first of August. I think.


I've been highly critical of Sweeney and Neely in this space, many times.

However, given that this is a/the bridge year, I'm fully in favor with what Sweeney has done this off season.

You can call them band aids but the older, proven players came cheap, can be let go painlessly, and were picked up in significant measure to challenge prospects for a given roster spot.

Part of Sweeney's MO is to force prospects to wrestle the job away from an established player and/or induce competition with multiple kids vying for the same position. No one is handed a job, and that's a smart way to run a hockey club. It's part of the Bruins "culture" and that's as it should be.

All of the pick ups/signings -- Ian Mitchell, Patrick Brown, Alec Regula, Jesper Boquist, Reilly Walsh, Keyser/DiPietro, Anthony Richard, Geek Out -- plus prospects fighting for jobs can only add competition, depth, and theoretically, a better roster on the ice come October.

Also, as Haggerty pointed out yesterday,



If, as both he and guest Evan Marinofsky believe, Matt Gryzlick is moved to make room for Frederic, Swayman and Bergeron contracts, it's conceivable that Mason Lohrei will take his place, opening night or thereafter.

If that happens, the Bruins will instantly ice a bigger, more rugged D corps across the board, averaging 6'3", 220 pounds.

That is something to like. Very much. It only took nearly a decade for Sweeney to get the message.

By the way, neither Haggerty nor Marinofsky want to part with Gryz. Given what Forbort brings as a PK specialist -- highlighted by a sudden drop in PK effectiveness when Forbort was out of the lineup with an injury last season -- Gryz would be the logical player to go.

This hinges on management's confidence that Lorhei can step into NHL duty at some point soon, even if he starts the year in PRO.

In that case, the Bruins would have to rely on... Jacob Zboril to contribute in the meantime.

Given Zboril's inconsistent, often poor performance and Montgomery's consequent reluctance to play him, that's a problem. At least in the interim.

You have to hope Mason will be ready, or nearly so, to join the Bruins sooner rather than later.

In the event, there will be a lot of story lines to follow going forward, and, hopefully, an entertaining season on tap.

Yes, come on now. Tell us more.



You undervalue the board.

Gordon, I disagree with many things in your post. Mainly that the ancient three were brought in to make youngsters earn a job. They were brought either as the primary bridges to next year or as a big enough group to make for a tank. The Bruins do not even have three bottom of the lineup prospects to earn jobs-two maybe. Also Gryz has serious flaws, but is demonstrably better than Forbort etc. I agree witn Marinofsky. (Haggerty I leave out of it on general principles.)

Hey, at least we "agree" about Zboril.
 
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Gordon, I disagree with many things in your post. Mainly that the ancient three were brought in to make youngsters earn a job. They were brought either as the primary bridges to next year or as a big enough group to make for a tank. The Bruins do not even have three bottom of the lineup prospects to earn jobs-two maybe. Also Gryz has serious flaws, but is demonstrably better than Forbort etc. I agree witn Maranofsky. (Haggerty I leave out of it on general principles.)

Hey, at least we "agree" about Zboril.
If they were going to tank, why would they bring in players like JVR, Geekie, and Shattenkirk and not trade anyone out? That makes no sense.

Lauko. McLaughlin. Beecher. Merkulov. Lysell. Lohrei. Mitchell. Walsh. Three of them could certainly win jobs.
 
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If they were going to rank, why would they bring in players like JVR, Geekie, and Shattenkirk and not trade anyone out? That makes no sense.

Lauko. McLaughlin. Beecher. Merkulov. Lysell. Lohrei. Mitchell. Walsh. Three of them could certainly win jobs.
Three rookies. Perfect.
 

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Movable for the right return:
Gryzelcyk
Debrusk
Ullmark or Swayman
Frederic

If one of those guys gets us the value we want in a trade, I'd move them. But only if we get what we want. Don't want to move them, but anything is possible.

Otherwise I say Forbort for anything, futures considerations, if it's possible, if anyone would.
 

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By the way, neither Haggerty nor Marinofsky want to part with Gryz. Given what Forbort brings as a PK specialist -- highlighted by a sudden drop in PK effectiveness when Forbort was out of the lineup with an injury last season -- Gryz would be the logical player to go.
The PK struggled without Forbort early in the year when he got hurt, but when he got hurt again later in the year they killed like 28 straight penalties without him or whatever it was. PKing is much more about team structure then it is about individuals, the idea that our PK would just completely crater without Forbort is just silly.

Personally if we have to move someone for cap space for Sway, Freddy, and Bergy and it's not forbort I'm gonna be very annoyed. He is the only negative value contract we have on this roster. It has to be him.
 
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Hey in all seriousness, does Looch have anything left? Everyone I know out west is telling me the game has just blown past him. Curious what we'll see here...
 

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Hey in all seriousness, does Looch have anything left? Everyone I know out west is telling me the game has just blown past him. Curious what we'll see here...
not really, but it'll still be fun seeing him as a bruins again. Just don't set your expectations for him too high and enjoy the ride.
 

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Hey in all seriousness, does Looch have anything left? Everyone I know out west is telling me the game has just blown past him. Curious what we'll see here...

They're probably right but there will be no lucic slander tolerated even if he gets 0 points with a -1500 +/- this year
 
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