Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk X

[KillerMillerTime]

Ya but the poster above u stated, “why not wait until the deadline when u can get more?”

Trades are hard to make now and the ones that were made were for peanuts. I’d rather wait until the deadline as well. if this team is a top 5 team this season I’d keep him. if he doesn’t resign oh well. U have to try and win now always imo. Losing to win is the stupidest way to build a team. So if the bruins are still one of the premier teams at the deadline they will probably be buyers not sellers. And I know this isn’t popular opinion around here but I do think this team is still going to be elite.

The core has a lot of young pieces that I consider game changers.
Mcavoy
Lindholm
Pastrnak
Carlo
Zacha
Debrusk
Swayman
Ullmark(if 29 is young?)

That’s a lot of really nice pieces to work with. It’s really hard to imagine this team falling off that far. Bergeron probably resigns. So losing krecji and hall probably isn’t going to be a big deal. They are fine with out both players. Even with out my favourite player ever (Bergeron) I still think this team is very competitive.

If you think losing Krejci, Hall, Bertuzzi, Orlov and a Bergeron who isn't going to be the same player aren't significant losses, then you aren't being realistic.

Tampa, Florida and Toronto have significant edges at forward while Buffalo and Ottawa have a decent group of forwards and dmen. Goaltending should be by far their strength. Yeah they will be "competitive" but any injuries to Coyle or Zacha will put them in a bad spot.

 

[KillerMillerTime]

Bergeron will be back.

If you deal Jake for an elite center, you're dealing other assets as well.

Who does the scoring on this team minus DeBrusk? Others, of course. But how many others can reliably put the puck in the net? How old are they? How talented? What's their ceiling?

You might answer with Lysell, but I don't see it. He's already been concussed, has not played to expectations, and does not possess either the size/heft necessary to deal with NHL opponents. Provided he's not packaged in a deal, we likely won't see him in Boston any time soon.

So, again, who does the scoring? Yes, David. Brad. Possibly Pavel.

Then who?

Trent Frederic?

Geek?

JVR?

The Bruins will get their goals but they can't afford to jettison one of their top scorers. Especially when it's highly doubtful they can find a 1C through that trade.

And don't talk to me about Scheifele.

He's old. He's expensive. And, from what I gather, he's no leader.

Bergeron may be back, but how effective and how often he will play is a question mark. Herniated discs at age 38 in normal everyday life is one thing but playing a collision sport like NHL hockey is a very dicey proposition. You're better off planning on a limited contribution.

In fact I would advocate for bringing Krejci back and giving him the C (with commitment to finish the season) before relying on Bergeron.

 

[NDiesel]

Bergeron may be back, but how effective and how often he will play is a question mark. Herniated discs at age 38 in normal everyday life is one thing but playing a collision sport like NHL hockey is a very dicey proposition. You're better off planning on a limited contribution.

In fact I would advocate for bringing Krejci back and giving him the C (with commitment to finish the season) before relying on Bergeron.

Herniated discs for you and me are also way different than herniated discs for a pro athlete who has top notch training facilities, doctors, trainers, etc.

 

[dugg133]

lol, Jfresh has us finishing first in the Atlantic right now

 

[PB37]

lol, Jfresh has us finishing first in the Atlantic right now

He had them winning the President's Trophy in last year's prediction model. Fans that voted in had the Bruins finishing 4th in the Atlantic, while fans on this forum had teams like Philly ( lol ) being better than the Bruins going into last season and convinced Buffalo and Ottawa were going to be better.

I wouldn't bet against the Bruins just yet. The biggest reason for their regular season success last year ( the goaltending duo ) is still intact. They won't be breaking any records and they'll be losing more games, but I'll be very surprised if they don't have another 100 + point season.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

He had them winning the President's Trophy in last year's prediction model he had. Fans that voted in had the Bruins finishing 4th in the Atlantic, while fans on this forum had teams like Philly ( lol ) being better than the Bruins going into last season and convinced Buffalo and Ottawa were going to be better.

I wouldn't bet against the Bruins just yet. The biggest reason for their regular season success last year ( the goaltending duo ) is still intact. They won't be breaking any records and they'll be losing more games, but I'll be very surprised if they don't have another 100 + point season.

When he got the results with the Bruins killing it, he went back and tweaked his model and reran it. And the Bruins gained points.

No other media person or analytic model was anywhere near JFresh on predicting the Bruins last year. Means absolutely nothing this year, but was still interesting.

 

[DominicT]

I may not be the sharpest tool in the tool shed, so I am asking for opinions. I believe Sweeney's comments about Matt Grzelcyk are being misinterpreted.

Sweeney said:

“I didn’t start any rumors. So, you want to ask me where they came from? You want to look in the mirror? Maybe you guys started them, you know, is it hypothetical that they’re having conversations about players, our lineup? No. It’s a fact, and there’s no question that I’m never going to discuss whether or not a team has called me. That’s just the job. It doesn’t matter who it is. That’s disrespectful to a player, from my point of view, being a former player.

When I remove the mumbo jumbo that Sweeney likes to add in all his responses, I am left with this:

"is it hypothetical that they’re (other teams) having conversations about players, our lineup? No. It’s a fact. I’m never going to discuss whether or not a team has called me. That’s disrespectful to a player, from my point of view, being a former player."

I am taking that to mean other teams are asking about his players and he is not going to name the team or the player involved.

So, why are so many people (media and fans) taking that to mean he would not trade Grzelcyk?

How far off base am I?

 

[DKH]

lol, Jfresh has us finishing first in the Atlantic right now

He had them first last season

I did as well but I had 120 clearly lack of respect for them as undershot 15 points

Bergeron back they are with Toronto at 103 in my breakdown

Although the Leafs D & G not in Boston skill at this time

Also Toronto has cap issues Right now

I’ll take over 103 on Bruins

 

[chizzler]

I may not be the sharpest tool in the tool shed, so I am asking for opinions. I believe Sweeney's comments about Matt Grzelcyk are being misinterpreted.

Sweeney said:

“I didn’t start any rumors. So, you want to ask me where they came from? You want to look in the mirror? Maybe you guys started them, you know, is it hypothetical that they’re having conversations about players, our lineup? No. It’s a fact, and there’s no question that I’m never going to discuss whether or not a team has called me. That’s just the job. It doesn’t matter who it is. That’s disrespectful to a player, from my point of view, being a former player.

When I remove the mumbo jumbo that Sweeney likes to add in all his responses, I am left with this:

"is it hypothetical that they’re (other teams) having conversations about players, our lineup? No. It’s a fact. I’m never going to discuss whether or not a team has called me. That’s disrespectful to a player, from my point of view, being a former player."

I am taking that to mean other teams are asking about his players and he is not going to name the team or the player involved.

So, why are so many people (media and fans) taking that to mean he would not trade Grzelcyk?

How far off base am I?

I don’t believe any GM. That’s how it should be. Don’t show your cards in negotiating time.

Or Muzzin on LTIR and buyout Murray.

Three teams I never worry about figuring out the cap: Tampa, Toronto and Boston. The 3 guys that figure out their cap were 3 instrumental people involved in creating the workings of the cap.

I worry they will lose him soon, unless they scramble the FO.

 

[DKH]

I may not be the sharpest tool in the tool shed, so I am asking for opinions. I believe Sweeney's comments about Matt Grzelcyk are being misinterpreted.

Sweeney said:

“I didn’t start any rumors. So, you want to ask me where they came from? You want to look in the mirror? Maybe you guys started them, you know, is it hypothetical that they’re having conversations about players, our lineup? No. It’s a fact, and there’s no question that I’m never going to discuss whether or not a team has called me. That’s just the job. It doesn’t matter who it is. That’s disrespectful to a player, from my point of view, being a former player.

When I remove the mumbo jumbo that Sweeney likes to add in all his responses, I am left with this:

"is it hypothetical that they’re (other teams) having conversations about players, our lineup? No. It’s a fact. I’m never going to discuss whether or not a team has called me. That’s disrespectful to a player, from my point of view, being a former player."

I am taking that to mean other teams are asking about his players and he is not going to name the team or the player involved.

So, why are so many people (media and fans) taking that to mean he would not trade Grzelcyk?

How far off base am I?

I am a Grzelcyk guy - underrated top 10 on my list.

Sharks who are BU West should be all over Grzelcyk

Makes sense on multi levels on and off ice

Love the grz- bright lights pairing

 

[UncleRico]

As someone said the other day, take everything he says with a grain of salt. We heard Sweeney say at the end of the season press conference that the plan was to get younger and build around the young core. Since then he’s pretty much signed a bunch of 1 year deals, a two year deal and the team has gotten older.

 

[DKH]

When he got the results with the Bruins killing it, he went back and tweaked his model and reran it. And the Bruins gained points.

No other media person or analytic model was anywhere near JFresh on predicting the Bruins last year. Means absolutely nothing this year, but was still interesting.

I had them - our HF text group which is who’s who one time members here will back me on this - we have some of the greatest posts I’ve read on Bruins that sadly never make it here …..oh wait I’m not in media

 

[DominicT]

I had them - our HF text group which is who’s who one time members here will back me on this - we have some of the greatest posts I’ve read on Bruins that sadly never make it here …..oh wait I’m not in media

Do I have to leave HF to join this text group?

 

[DKH]

Do I have to leave HF to join this text group?

Actually you know everyone well but right now what’s trending (90%)

Diets - we are all on diets and lot of food discussions and photos

Football

Lou is so down on Mets and recovering from Bruins rarely hockey or baseball

Although I’m trying to pry Luke Hughes from him lol

 

[dugg133]

As someone said the other day, take everything he says with a grain of salt. We heard Sweeney say at the end of the season press conference that the plan was to get younger and build around the young core. Since then he’s pretty much signed a bunch of 1 year deals, a two year deal and the team has gotten older.

He signed a bunch of cheap guys that can either be moved down or out of the lineup if young guys step up in training camp or in Providence at any point in the year. They're placeholders, not permanent fixtures. If Lysell goes nuts in Providence to start the year they aren't gonna not promote him cause JVR is in his way.

 

[Yeti34]

I may not be the sharpest tool in the tool shed, so I am asking for opinions. I believe Sweeney's comments about Matt Grzelcyk are being misinterpreted.

Sweeney said:

“I didn’t start any rumors. So, you want to ask me where they came from? You want to look in the mirror? Maybe you guys started them, you know, is it hypothetical that they’re having conversations about players, our lineup? No. It’s a fact, and there’s no question that I’m never going to discuss whether or not a team has called me. That’s just the job. It doesn’t matter who it is. That’s disrespectful to a player, from my point of view, being a former player.

When I remove the mumbo jumbo that Sweeney likes to add in all his responses, I am left with this:

"is it hypothetical that they’re (other teams) having conversations about players, our lineup? No. It’s a fact. I’m never going to discuss whether or not a team has called me. That’s disrespectful to a player, from my point of view, being a former player."

I am taking that to mean other teams are asking about his players and he is not going to name the team or the player involved.

So, why are so many people (media and fans) taking that to mean he would not trade Grzelcyk?

How far off base am I?

Agreed.

I also think that Sweeney is most likely overvaluing Gryz. I personally don’t see him being worth more than a late 3rd or 4th with his contract set up the way it is. After the benching during the post season during the games that mattered most I’m pretty sure that tanked any perceived value around the league.

 

[mjhfb]

I am a Grzelcyk guy - underrated top 10 on my list.

Sharks who are BU West should be all over Grzelcyk

Makes sense on multi levels on and off ice

Love the grz- bright lights pairing

They always seemed to have great chemistry and feed off each other. And when the Bruins tried to pair someone else with McAvoy, his game just didn't seem as sharp.
So if the real debate is their chemistry vs the argument that Grz isn't a 1st pair D, I don't know what they'll decide. We'll see.

 

[BruinsFanMike82]

 

[Bruinaura]

Bye Nosek.

Good dude. Wish him well.

 

[Yeti34]

They always seemed to have great chemistry and feed off each other. And when the Bruins tried to pair someone else with McAvoy, his game just didn't seem as sharp.
So if the real debate is their chemistry vs the argument that Grz isn't a 1st pair D, I don't know what they'll decide. We'll see.

Come playoff time it doesn’t seem like a great pairing. Besides the eye test come post season Gryz is a career -19 post season worst among our dmen. McAvoy is a career -1.

 

[DKH]

They always seemed to have great chemistry and feed off each other. And when the Bruins tried to pair someone else with McAvoy, his game just didn't seem as sharp.
So if the real debate is their chemistry vs the argument that Grz isn't a 1st pair D, I don't know what they'll decide. We'll see.

Great post

I keep hearing how Florida was to big and tough for Grzelcyk yet games 3 and 4 in Florida with last call on matchups - Grzelcyk was in lineup for the 4-2 and 6-2 wins but not game 6 a 7-5 loss

 

[wintersej]

Agreed.

I also think that Sweeney is most likely overvaluing Gryz. I personally don’t see him being worth more than a late 3rd or 4th with his contract set up the way it is. After the benching during the post season during the games that mattered most I’m pretty sure that tanked any perceived value around the league.

I don't think one coaches bad choice has any bearing amongst the actual professionals.

 

[McGarnagle]

Great post

I keep hearing how Florida was to big and tough for Grzelcyk yet games 3 and 4 in Florida with last call on matchups - Grzelcyk was in lineup for the 4-2 and 6-2 wins but not game 6 a 7-5 loss

If Oskar Sundqvist doesn't give Grzelcyk a moderate concussion with a cheap and predatory elbow to the head keeping him out from the first period of game 2 until game 7, do you think the Bruins win that final in 5 or 6?

 

[EverettMike]

Love the grz- bright lights pairing

Regular season:

Games 382, Points 124, +124
82 game average - 27 points, +27

Post-season:

Games 63, Points 124, -19
82 game average - 18 points, -25

Maybe the TD Garden is dimming the lights in the spring?

 

[PlayMakers]

lol, Jfresh has us finishing first in the Atlantic right now

The odds makers agree. Only the smaht folks here at HF think they suck.