Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk X

[Mainehockey33]

Debrusk is one dimensional and largely a product of Bergeron and Krejci. He is dynamic, yes, at a low level, but That's all that is there. I would not trade him, because no one else up front has his straiagt-line speed or scoring ability, save Pasta, but I understand the case for moving him.

Being one dimensional and being dynamic mean the opposite thing.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

Wahlstrom would probably be in Providence if he was in this organization.

I don't think so.

 

[quietbruinfan]

Being one dimensional and being dynamic mean the opposite thing.

NO It does not..............................Dynamic, in this case, means full of energy or power.........If that is his one dimension that is his one dimension.

 

[Kegs]

NO It does not..............................Dynamic means full of energy or power.........If that is his one dimension that is his one dimension.

i thought he looked good in all three zones and especially good on the forecheck last season. I think he has improved every aspect of his game since he first arrived.

I don't think so.

I think whalstrom would make the bruins roster pretty easily.

 

[Mione134]

I'd take the proven player in Jake, rather than lesser players.

Check Jake's stats. Watch him last year. And the latter half of the 22 season. He's improved. He's great on the PK. His forecheck this year was great. Had he not broken his leg he would of gotten 30 EASILY.

I'm not trading him away. Let him be apart of our core with Pasta.

 

[JOKER 192]

Only way I trade JDB is for a 1C otherwise I keep him provided he wants to stay.

 

[Patdud]

Do you see Coyle as a 2nd line center? I’m just trying to understand your perspective here.

read it again backwards

 

[GordonHowe]

Debrusk is one dimensional and largely a product of Bergeron and Krejci. He is dynamic, yes, at a low level, but That's all that is there. I would not trade him, because no one else up front has his straiagt-line speed or scoring ability, save Pasta, but I understand the case for moving him

DeBrusk is no Pasta.

Because he possesses elite skill as a scoring phenom, the fact that he is also a very one-dimensional player is overlooked or accepted.

Let's call a spade a spade.

 

[Kegs]

DeBrusk is no Pasta.

Because he possesses elite skill as a scoring phenom, the fact that he is also a very one-dimensional player is overlooked or accepted.

Let's call a spade a spade.

I think jdb had less turn overs and killed more penalties. In fact I’d say Pasternak is more one dimensional than debrusk.

 

[GordonHowe]

I disaGree. I think jdb had less turn overs and killed more penalties. In fact I’d say Pasternak is more one dimensional than debrusk.

I would say the same.

Which of these wingers has played with Patrice Bergeron and Brad Marchand for most of his career?

Now, a while ago, I pointed this out. And the reasonable response from one of the board's posters, is that Brad and Patrice take care of the defensive stuff as well as the offensive stuff, and let David do his thing.

Fair enough. I still think he is too cavalier, too casual out there. He should be better.

OT I understand.

 

[quietbruinfan]

DeBrusk is no Pasta.

Because he possesses elite skill as a scoring phenom, the fact that he is also a very one-dimensional player is overlooked or accepted.

Let's call a spade a spade.

That is what I am doing lol. I am only comparing the two in terms of speed, if that.

 

[GordonHowe]

That is what I am doing lol. I am only comparing the two in terms of speed, if that.

Frankly, I think there's almost no comparison, on several levels.

David is spectacular and does what he does and that's all fine.

Jake gives you overpowering north-south driving speed to the net. He's there in the scrum in front of the net to clean up the garbage. He goes in the corners. And More physical obviously, then david.

That doesn't mean Jake hits everything that moves, but he's a big guy. I think I saw something last year where he basically took two guys out of commission with this arms out, spread eagle action. There's a name for it. Someone else posted it. It was very cool to see.

Anyway, apples and oranges, I understand. But I think dismissing Jake as a one-trick pony is a bit much.

Two cents.

 

[Blowfish]

Bergeron is a short term answer to a long term goal.

If we are gonna keep punting it until he's in a walker, sure.

But if a guy literally 8-10 years younger is available, he's the "now" guy and if we can acquire him, it's going to cost to give to get.

That said, I think the expectation of any centerman coming in and being the next Bergeron is gonna set us up for disappointment. He's a HoFer, and Franchise guy. There's literally no one available that fits that, and the guys approaching UFA (outside of the available ones), likely aren't going to make it there.

There's other style of players out there. We see who we can get and adapt.

If the Bruins whole plan is just find a perennial selke winner, and everyone has a reason why we can't move Player X or Player Y.

Bruins have to be able to adapt.

Bergeron, love the guy, but he's a bandaid at this point. A very good one, but long term our options are go for the guys rumored to be available. Wait for another guy to become available, hope UFA works for us, or organically wait until we are in a decent spot to draft someone (who will most likely be different than Bergeron, which is also fine, other styles of players are good too.)

He helps bridge into cap space heaven 2024 2025

 

[quietbruinfan]

Frankly, I think there's almost no comparison, on several levels.

David is spectacular and does what he does and that's all fine.

Jake gives you overpowering north-south driving speed to the net. He's there in the scrum in front of the net to clean up the garbage. He goes in the corners. And More physical obviously, then david.

That doesn't mean Jake hits everything that moves, but he's a big guy. I think I saw something last year where he basically took two guys out of commission with this arms out, spread eagle action. There's a name for it. Someone else posted it. It was very cool to see.

Anyway, apples and oranges, I understand. But I think dismissing Jake as a one-trick pony is a bit much.

Two cents.

I do not find Jake terribly physical, not effectively so. He has straight line speed, a wicked wrister and decent hands for tips....that's about all I see.

 

[PB37]

Duhaime settled for 1.1M this should be the comparable for Frederic. Frederic could be paid a little more 1.3 - 1.4 maybe. Any more than that and he should be traded for a 3rd round pick; which is probably his value.

Frederic is almost a year younger, has the ability to play the more important postion, and scored more goals last year than Duhaime has in his career to date. The two are not comparable at all.

 

[GordonHowe]

I do not find Jake terribly physical, not effectively so. He has straight line speed, a wicked wrister and decent hands for tips....that's about all I see.

He's not terribly physical, as you say.
You must admit he is a big body, which is difficult to move especially net front.

And the speed, and the shot, and again, the greasy stuff in the front, when you have someone who can put it away. I think that's valuable.

Is he a fantastic unbelievable player?

No.

But he's a hell of a lot better than many concede.

I hope the Bruins keep him as part of a new core.

 

[quietbruinfan]

He's not terribly physical, as you say.
You must admit he is a big body, which is difficult to move especially net front.

And the speed, and the shot, and again, the greasy stuff in the front, when you have someone who can put it away. I think that's valuable.

Is he a fantastic unbelievable player?

No.

But he's a hell of a lot better than many concede.

I hope the Bruins keep him as part of a new core.

I definitely do not see him as a core player. He is useful but not a core player at all.

 

[GordonHowe]

I definitely do not see him as a core player. He is useful but not a core player at all.

And your core players are..?

I am talking next core. No Bergeron, no Marchand. No kids, not yet.

Let's think outside the box, shall we?

McAvoy. Lindholm. Jeremy. David.

Possibly Zacha, eventually.

Who makes your list?

 

[UncleRico]

And your core players are..?

I am talking next core. No Bergeron, no Marchand. No kids, not yet.

Let's think outside the box, shall we?

McAvoy. Lindholm. Jeremy. David.

Possibly Zacha, eventually.

Who makes your list?

In my mind:

Core: McAvoy, Pasta, swayman, Lindholm


Anyone else on the roster to me isn’t the core that I would focus on building around. I’d move anyone else on the roster today in some sort of package if it meant there was a bonafide top #1 center. Hell I’d trade swayman or Lindholm for one too but Lindholms contract makes that unrealistic and pretty much means he’s a core player.

Personally I think there’s too many holes to fill going forward before they can even really identify a core.

 

[GordonHowe]

In my mind:

Core: McAvoy, Pasta, swayman, Lindholm


Anyone else on the roster to me isn’t the core that I would focus on building around. I’d move anyone else on the roster today in some sort of package if it meant there was a bonafide top #1 center. Hell I’d trade swayman or Lindholm for one too but Lindholms contract makes that unrealistic and pretty much means he’s a core player.

Personally I think there’s too many holes to fill going forward before they can even really identify a core.

No, I think that's the core. I wouldn't say Linholme is a core player because of his contract, though I understand what you're saying.

That's pretty much the core. I would like Jake and Pavel to stick around.

 

[quietbruinfan]

And your core players are..?

I am talking next core. No Bergeron, no Marchand. No kids, not yet.

Let's think outside the box, shall we?

McAvoy. Lindholm. Jeremy. David.

Possibly Zacha, eventually.

Who makes your list?

Mac and David....Maybe Lindy that's it. I see Swayman as a 1b. I am not that high on him.

 

[GordonHowe]

Mac and David....Maybe Lindy that's it. I see Swayman as a 1b. I am not that high on him.

That's a pretty slim list.

 

[quietbruinfan]

That's a pretty slim list.

It is a slim future. ...Sweneely can't draft to save their lives and it has finally come home to roost.

 

[bruinmann77]

We have slot of work like I said if Jake want to stay great if he tell DS he doesn’t then Don needs to work the phones

 

[GordonHowe]

It is a slim future. ...Sweneely can't draft to save their lives and it has finally come home to roost.

I think they're getting better with that.

How would you retool or rebuild the Boston Bruins within the next two years?

Off to bed, so please take your time. Interested in your perspective,