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This year is the deal to make. If he waits and DB has a shit season, he gets back less. His value hasn’t been this high ever.
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Kegs
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Jdb will have a better season this year than last. Contract year. :p
DominicT
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Hands down, yes. I would trade Coyle for DeBrusk every day of the week.
Do you see Coyle as a 2nd line center? I’m just trying to understand your perspective here.
Oates2Neely
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You replied to my post but seems you didn’t read it. When has Sweeney sold off a top 6 forward at the trade deadline when he’s been in the hunt for a 1-8 playoff seed? The year he refused to move Loui Eriksson at the TDL the team missed the playoffs. Don Sweeney is not built that way. And full disclosure I was in agreement with Sweeney keeping Eriksson for an anticipated playoff run. But I’m not an NHL GM I’m fortunately just a fan
The don godfather
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If a player comes with him like walstrom I'm interested if it's just pageau seeya .
I think he's poking fun at my wording
I probably should have said would you trade Debrusk for Coyle.
Wahlstrom would probably be in Providence if he was in this organization.
Oates2Neely
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Imo the time to discuss is now. There’s absolutely zero excuse for Sweeney not knowing what DeBrusk camp’s expectations are for his next deal. Either Sweeney likes the number, or he doesn’t. If he doesn’t, move him before the season starts. The absolute worst scenario imo is the Bruins are in a race for the wild card come February/ March and decide to keep Jake and not move him, miss the playoffs, and DeBrusk signs with Edmonton/ Calgary on July 1st as a UFA.
If the contract demands are reasonable then by all means sign him long term. He’ll be 27 in October (his prime). 5 years at 6.5m reasonable for both sides?
I agree this team still has a solid core. Centers aside. With any luck Poitras is legit.
WhalerTurnedBruin55
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This is exactly what I've been saying as well.
I broke down Sweeney's roster player trades since he took over. ie. What Players Sweeney had sent out and what players we have to show for it. Excluding the pick/future heavy packages and cap dumps.
Boston Bruins - 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk X
Much more preferable to trade guys in their late 30s and get a return for them than to keep allocating assets to their already expired window. Especially so for a 38 year old defender coming off a season where the team missed the playoffs I don't want to root for a Bruins team trading away...
None of the players moved were playing a role in the top half of the roster either.
Mid-season has very little to show for long term roster players or even picks that turn into roster players.
If Debrusk is not moved by Sept 1st, I really hope he's re-signed. If not, my expectations of what he'd be traded for feel extremely limited.
Letting him walk would continue losing out on any value on players.
DiggityDog
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How do you know they haven’t already had discussions? Nobody outside of Jake, his agent, and the Bruins front office know what’s going on.
It’s extreme to suggest you should move a player on a cost effective deal during an offseason where the trade market has been noticeable less active than in recent years. Especially before training camp. Who are you replacing him with?
I would argue that the best time for them to trade Debrusk, a scenario I doubt as it is, would be leading up to the trade deadline where teams will have more flexibility in the coming offseason.
To me, the priorities right now are dealing with Frederic and Swayman.
Kegs
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I’m hoping poitras is one who slipped in the draft because of the Covid lock down. I haven’t watched him play so I can’t say much.
One prospect I have had limited viewings of is locmelis. I think he is an nhl talent. Can’t wait to see him at camp. He seems to have a super high hockey iq. He looks skinny still tho. He looks like a kid. When he fills out like a man maybe he can be a nice piece.
Per BHN, caveat emptor,
Murphy: Another Salary Cap Dump Coming For Bruins?
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Per The Hockey Writers,
Trade Between Islanders and Bruins Was Never on the Table
Addressing recent trade speculation, Jimmy Murphy clarified that Andrew Fantucchio’s proposal of a trade between the New York Islanders and Boston Bruins that would see Jake DeBrusk come to the Islanders and Jean-Gabriel Pageau go to Boston was simply an idea and not a rumor. Stefan Rosner added that there have been no reports regarding trade talks between the New York Islanders and Boston Bruins involving these two players.Stefan Rosner tweeted: “Saw it from various rumor sites and was DMd about it, which is why I tweeted about it. Spoke to Andrew about his story, which I knew was a creative piece.”
Considering the uncertain futures of Patrice Bergeron and David Krejci, the Bruins may be seeking a center. However, unless the Islanders can acquire a top-tier scorer, it seems unlikely that they would trade Pageau.
Bruins extend ex-Devils defenseman
The former third-round pick logged nine goals and 32 assists for 41 points in the AHL last season.
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Oates2Neely
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I never suggested I knew Sweeney has had or hasn’t had those discussions. I said he has no excuse not to have already had them.
I can cite 2 examples of Sweeney keeping his soon-to-be top 6 UFA at the trade deadline because the team was potentially in playoff position and letting them walk via UFA without anything to show for it (Eriksson, Krug).
Can you cite one example of him moving a top 6 player at the deadline to recoup assets when the team has been in potential playoff position?
It’s not an easy sell to the fanbase. Again as a fan I’d probably keep the player for the spring run myself. However imo a competent GM makes the move.
Id much rather have a 1st round pick in my pocket then have Jake DeBrusk walk for noting on 7/1. And let’s not forget most teams looking to add a Jake DeBrusk at the trade deadline are giving up late 1st round picks. Market is limited at the TDL. Arizona isn’t in the market for a DeBrusk at the TDL. Maybe they are in August.
As bad a GM as Milbury was -- and he was one of the worst, which Mike should remember the next time he opens his mouth -- my understanding is that he told owner Charles Wong that the Isles would regret dealing Z to Ottawa.
Other than that spasm of perspicacity, Milbury's tenure on the island was a disaster.
Why he bolted to BC when Harry apparently anointed him GM designate is beyond me.
If anyone has a clue, please pass the salt.
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I don't know why so many here are hot to trade Jake.
He has become a solid, even dynamic player for the Bruins since, really, Butch finally inserted him on the number one line.
To me, it would be a stupid, lateral at best move. They're not going to get a 1C for DeBrusk.
Linus Ullmark has the highest value, at least right now, and will bring back the greatest return. They can afford to trade Linus because they have Swayman, clearly their goaltender of the future.
Jeremy is good enough at 24 to be a number one goaltender, provided he is teamed with a competent backup to share starts and keep him fresh. The backup could be Bussi or a veteran tender.
Not rocket science. Linus (perhaps plus a prospect or two, no one vital) could fetch a legitimate roster player and/or draft selections. And you're not trading away a very valuable goal scorer who can also drive a line with his North-South power skating directly to the net. DeBrusk can also take the punishment whilst cleaning up the garbage.
At 26, Jake is also entering his prime.
There was a time, not that long ago, when many would have traded DeBrusk for a bag of pucks.
Remember that?
Deal him -- in casual fashion, per some of the posts on this board -- at your peril.
He's having one now. ^
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All options should be on the table for an elite center. Especially if Bergeron doesn't come back.
Bergeron will be back.
If you deal Jake for an elite center, you're dealing other assets as well.
Who does the scoring on this team minus DeBrusk? Others, of course. But how many others can reliably put the puck in the net? How old are they? How talented? What's their ceiling?
You might answer with Lysell, but I don't see it. He's already been concussed, has not played to expectations, and does not possess either the size/heft necessary to deal with NHL opponents. Provided he's not packaged in a deal, we likely won't see him in Boston any time soon.
So, again, who does the scoring? Yes, David. Brad. Possibly Pavel.
Then who?
Trent Frederic?
Geek?
JVR?
The Bruins will get their goals but they can't afford to jettison one of their top scorers. Especially when it's highly doubtful they can find a 1C through that trade.
And don't talk to me about Scheifele.
He's old. He's expensive. And, from what I gather, he's no leader.
Blowfish
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Hope you're right about Bergeron...this issue goes away with Bergeron back in the mix otherwise someone needs to go ... Debrusk is a good asset (plus prospect/draft pick) to find a good replacement center. Much to critical a role for any team.
WhalerTurnedBruin55
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Bergeron is a short term answer to a long term goal.
If we are gonna keep punting it until he's in a walker, sure.
But if a guy literally 8-10 years younger is available, he's the "now" guy and if we can acquire him, it's going to cost to give to get.
That said, I think the expectation of any centerman coming in and being the next Bergeron is gonna set us up for disappointment. He's a HoFer, and Franchise guy. There's literally no one available that fits that, and the guys approaching UFA (outside of the available ones), likely aren't going to make it there.
There's other style of players out there. We see who we can get and adapt.
If the Bruins whole plan is just find a perennial selke winner, and everyone has a reason why we can't move Player X or Player Y.
Bruins have to be able to adapt.
Bergeron, love the guy, but he's a bandaid at this point. A very good one, but long term our options are go for the guys rumored to be available. Wait for another guy to become available, hope UFA works for us, or organically wait until we are in a decent spot to draft someone (who will most likely be different than Bergeron, which is also fine, other styles of players are good too.)
quietbruinfan
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Debrusk is one dimensional and largely a product of Bergeron and Krejci. He is dynamic, yes, at a low level, but That's all that is there. I would not trade him, because no one else up front has his straiagt-line speed or scoring ability, save Pasta, but I understand the case for moving him.
I say that because, per an informed source who posts regularly, Bergeron is apparently "working very hard" at present, which tells me he'll be back. I could be wrong.
I understand how vital 1C -- any C -- is. But I think this season, the Bruins will have to make do with what they have.
Perhaps there will be someone of genuine value at the trade deadline.
More likely, the Bruins can begin their long awaited retool next off season, when they will have the dollars to do so. They can also find out what they have per prospects, including Lysell.
I don't mind it.
Shaun
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a couple of twitter rumors and a dm had him report this? what a joke
MarchysNoseKnows
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You keep saying one dimensional. But he’s not one dimensional. At all. I don’t get it.
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