Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk X

[BiteThisBurrows]

I do not find Jake terribly physical, not effectively so. He has straight line speed, a wicked wrister and decent hands for tips....that's about all I see.

Exactly. He's a good mid level offensive winger but he does not dominate (like Pasta can), drive the line (like Marchand can), for occupy space (like Hall did). If you want to move him, this is the perfect time to do it.
I still say if you want to make significant moves the three players you can move and manage without are DeBrusk, Ullmark and Gryz. Everyone else is either insignificant or vital.

 

[quietbruinfan]

I think they're getting better with that.

How would you retool or rebuild the Boston Bruins within the next two years?

Off to bed, so please take your time. Interested in your perspective,

I am not sure......I would fire Neely for sure.....Beyond that, draft better. Since they are built correctly, from the goalie out, find a good stocky mean d and centers. If you are strong up the middle, wings sometimes appear and we have Pasta.....to drive whatever line.

 

[WhalerTurnedBruin55]

It is a slim future. ...Sweneely can't draft to save their lives and it has finally come home to roost.

Outside of trading big for Lindholm.

Most of his assets have gone out the door for rentals (or at best not on the roster anymore) or getting rid of his previous mistakes.

I think they're getting better with that.

How would you retool or rebuild the Boston Bruins within the next two years?

Off to bed, so please take your time. Interested in your perspective,

If we are being honest, a two year re-tool is overly optimistic. Impossible, no. But I feel like the last year's regular season was everything going the Bruins way. I'm gonna imagine the following seasons won't be as kind and humbling coming back to earth is realistic. Good team, but dominant, not so sure.

Unless one of our draft picks really breaks out or we score big on the trade or UFA market... we have limited high impact assets and, of those we should probably develop them so we actually have NHL players on ELC's that can actually play.

 

[GordonHowe]

I am not sure......I would fire Neely for sure.....Beyond that, draft better. Since they are built correctly, from the goalie out, find a good stocky mean d and centers. If you are strong up the middle, wings sometimes appear and we have Pasta.....to drive whatever line.

Sounds about right,

 

[PB37]

Exactly. He's a good mid level offensive winger but he does not dominate (like Pasta can), drive the line (like Marchand can), for occupy space (like Hall did). If you want to move him, this is the perfect time to do it.
I still say if you want to make significant moves the three players you can move and manage without are DeBrusk, Ullmark and Gryz. Everyone else is either insignificant or vital.

DeBrusk shared the responsibility of driving the top line with Marchand since he was put on it and eventually was the go-to guy when Marchand started to feel the grind on his surgically repaired hips as the season went on. Everyone has different definitions of what a line driver is but basically what it boils down to is pushing the pace offensively, primarily with your feet and tenacity. When Jake's on his game, those are his two best qualities.

 

[DKH]

I am not sure......I would fire Neely for sure.....Beyond that, draft better. Since they are built correctly, from the goalie out, find a good stocky mean d and centers. If you are strong up the middle, wings sometimes appear and we have Pasta.....to drive whatever line.

You want to fire everyone- that’s your MO

 

[DKH]

Trading debrusk would be a braindead move

Sweens should have a strategy on him now

If DeBrusk wants to stay I’m Donny 6/40 today

Bergeron comes back DeBrusk stays healthy 35 goals hitting FA with his multi dimensional game he’s getting $7.5 M long term

Great kid everyone loves dad around League

Speed, hands, can play with stars players and be on both special teams

Excellent component of a top 4 wing group that has the crown diamond in Pastrnak

Marchand should be in that sphere for another 2 seasons but they need another to add to Pastrnak & DeBrusk

Ideally they got the G, the top 3 D they need a top 6 C (I’m very high on Poitras offense ability, instincts. and attack mode mind set) and a winger who’s high end

Plan - give me Bergy, go get Hanifin, sign DeBrusk- and see where we are Valentines Dsy as a team and organization

Time will tell

Donny - let’s do it!!!!

 

[RHR37]

The B's can not afford to trade Debrusk right now. They have nobody in the pipeline to replace him and they just dealt Hall.

I'm a huge fan on Debrusk but I'm not as confident as everyone else he wants to stay here long term.

Obviously I have no evidence to back that up but if he walks for nothing that's another huge blunder for DS.

 

[CellyHard]

It is crazy that a team that just traded Hall and let Bertuzzi walk would consider trading Debrusk.

Your only top six forwards if Debrusk is traded is a 35 year old Marchand and Pasta. That is it.

You have maybe one prospect in the minor leagues in Lysell with top six potential (as a winger). Maybe Merkulov if he doesn't stick at center. You don't bank on that.

If Bergeron and Krejci retire you would have lost FIVE top six players to your roster....

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

It is crazy that a team that just traded Hall and let Bertuzzi walk would consider trading Debrusk.

Your only top six forwards if Debrusk is traded is a 35 year old Marchand and Pasta. That is it.

You have maybe one prospect in the minor leagues in Lysell with top six potential (as a winger). Maybe Merkulov if he doesn't stick at center. You don't bank on that.

If Bergeron and Krejci retire you would have lost FIVE top six players to your roster....

You can't count Hall and Bertuzzi as top 6 if you're also counting Pasta, Marchand, and Debrusk. That's 5 wingers. Well I guess you can, but doing that and not counting Zacha as a top six player seems a bit specious.

 

[TCB]

Unfortunately Its where the Bruins are at under Sweeney. He went all in moving picks and ended up getting eliminated early the last two years.

He has hurt the bruins with some bad FA signings which has caused him to throw more picks away, for teams to take on those bad contracts There's no doubting his desire to win at no cost but eventually kicking the can down the road every year is going to catch up.

Since he took over as GM 9 drafts ago, the forwards he's drafted have accounted for 159 goals with Jake scoring 119 and Tfred 29 of them and he's failed to address the Center position during this time, with his top two trade acquisitions being Coyle and Zacha up front, this despite trading away futures like candy at the local parade. On top of that he's failed to bring in a top gun forward fA wise.

There is some hope down the road though with Poitras and lysell. Hopefully one of them strikes gold because without a first or second in this years draft and no picks for the first three rounds next year and still no replacements for Bergy and Krecji its going to be tough unless one of those guys or hopefully both becomes legit NHL stars.

I've read where some here think its the core, their the wrong core to build around. I think the core is outstanding and that's what has been keeping the Bruins above water. Its the failure of not being able to add to it offensively, to build around it. And despite that, this core has been remarkable in making the Bruins one of the best teams over the last 8-9 years and having the best regular season ever in the long history of the NHL only a year ago.

 

[Dizzay]

Since Looch is my favorite player, I'm going to read the tea leaves based on comments from an interview and choose to interpret things as I see them, totally unbiased (not) to fit my argument:

1. Indicated he received multi-year offers, specifically from Chicago, where we have seen Foligno, Perry get paid crazy dollars.......in essence, he turned down term and money to come to Boston

2. Remembering Looch as a Bruin, not sure there was a guy on those teams that wanted to win more than him. Why would he come here to play where Coyle/Geekie/JVR are potentially in your top 6?

3. Looch and Krejci were not only linemates, but seem to have remained very tight over the years.

To sum it up:
1. Chose Boston shorter term and and less money
2. Must know there's a plan to be not only competitive but chase Lord Stanley one more time
3. Think he called up Krejci and Bergy before signing here?

Hypothesis: Both Bergy and Krejci are returning and we, my fellow Bruin fans, are going to run it back one more time for one epic season and playoffs with this group of beauties! Happy f***ing Wednesday everyone!

 

[DominicT]

 

[Babajingo]

Since Looch is my favorite player, I'm going to read the tea leaves based on comments from an interview and choose to interpret things as I see them, totally unbiased (not) to fit my argument:

1. Indicated he received multi-year offers, specifically from Chicago, where we have seen Foligno, Perry get paid crazy dollars.......in essence, he turned down term and money to come to Boston

2. Remembering Looch as a Bruin, not sure there was a guy on those teams that wanted to win more than him. Why would he come here to play where Coyle/Geekie/JVR are potentially in your top 6?

3. Looch and Krejci were not only linemates, but seem to have remained very tight over the years.

To sum it up:
1. Chose Boston shorter term and and less money
2. Must know there's a plan to be not only competitive but chase Lord Stanley one more time
3. Think he called up Krejci and Bergy before signing here?

Hypothesis: Both Bergy and Krejci are returning and we, my fellow Bruin fans, are going to run it back one more time for one epic season and playoffs with this group of beauties! Happy f***ing Wednesday everyone!

I think thats a big reason why they brought Lucic back. Hopefully it will convince those guys to come back. the Centennial year doesn't hurt either.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Even with Murray on LTIR they need to trade a $3M+ contract. So Brodie or Nylander. Lol.

Or they could have…not signed Max Domi

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

I've read where some here think its the core, their the wrong core to build around. I think the core is outstanding and that's what has been keeping the Bruins above water. Its the failure of not being able to add to it offensively, to build around it. And despite that, this core has been remarkable in making the Bruins one of the best teams over the last 8-9 years and having the best regular season ever in the long history of the NHL only a year ago.

Bruins were 2nd in the league in scoring last season.

How is that failing to add to the core offensively?

 

[DominicT]

Even with Murray on LTIR they need to trade a $3M+ contract. So Brodie or Nylander. Lol.

Or they could have…not signed Max Domi

Or Muzzin on LTIR and buyout Murray.

Three teams I never worry about figuring out the cap: Tampa, Toronto and Boston. The 3 guys that figure out their cap were 3 instrumental people involved in creating the workings of the cap.

 

[NDiesel]

Any idea when the Bruins players' ask/team ask will be out?

 

[DominicT]

Any idea when the Bruins players' ask/team ask will be out?

usually when all evidence is filed with the arbitrator and that has to be submitted 48 hours before the hearing dates.

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Or Muzzin on LTIR and buyout Murray.

Three teams I never worry about figuring out the cap: Tampa, Toronto and Boston. The 3 guys that figure out their cap were 3 instrumental people involved in creating the workings of the cap.

Maybe I'm missing something.

They're $8.8M over the Cap with Muzzin and Murray counting, and Samsonov at zero.

LTIR Muzzin and Murray, and they're $1.481M under the CAP.

Add $3.6M for Samsonov (middle it) and they're $2.2M over, and they need to trade a $3M+ player to be compliant. If they buyout Murray instead of LTIR him, add $687k to that number.

What am I missing? I'm sure I'm doing something wrong.

 

[mar2kbos]

Bruins were 2nd in the league in scoring last season.

How is that failing to add to the core offensively?

We always see stats like that, so maybe the cavemen that have been beating the tougher drum are right. We have offensive guys but they are hardly tough enough in post season anymore and it’s been that way for awhile. Ironically Lucic was the last guy to score and be a tough guy able to cause net front disruption. He isn’t that guy anymore, all the tough guys on the bottom 6 in the world will not solve the top 6 lack of muscle. Some top 6 are old and body can’t handle it anymore, the younger top 6 guys are just not tough. It’s a bad dynamic right now. It works fine in regular season but not the playoffs. They have had progressively worse playoff performances since 2019.

 

[DominicT]

Maybe I'm missing something.

They're $8.8M over the Cap with Muzzin and Murray counting, and Samsonov at zero.

LTIR Muzzin and Murray, and they're $1.481M under the CAP.

Add $3.6M for Samsonov (middle it) and they're $2.2M over, and they need to trade a $3M+ player to be compliant. If they buyout Murray instead of LTIR him, add $687k to that number.

What am I missing? I'm sure I'm doing something wrong.

Nothing. It was just another alternative for the numbers for you.

But I have no doubt they will do something out of the blue that people like me and you never thought of. Tampa and Toronto always seem to do that.

 

[NDiesel]

usually when all evidence is filed with the arbitrator and that has to be submitted 48 hours before the hearing dates.

Thanks for the info Dom

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

Nothing. It was just another alternative for the numbers for you.

But I have no doubt they will do something out of the blue that people like me and you never thought of. Tampa and Toronto always seem to do that.

Oh I know they’ll find a way. It could be walking away from Samsonov and going with Woll and a vet minimum guy which would be hilarious. Or they dump Nylander, Rielly, or Brodie. Or even trade Marner. But I can’t find a way out of this with anything close to league average goaltending without trading a $3M+ contract, and they only have a handful with almost all having some sort of trade projection, and a capped out league.

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

We always see stats like that, so maybe the cavemen that have been beating the tougher drum are right. We have offensive guys but they are hardly tough enough in post season anymore and it’s been that way for awhile. Ironically Lucic was the last guy to score and be a tough guy able to cause net front disruption. He isn’t that guy anymore, all the tough guys on the bottom 6 in the world will not solve the top 6 lack of muscle. Some top 6 are old and body can’t handle it anymore, the younger top 6 guys are just not tough. It’s a bad dynamic right now. It works fine in regular season but not the playoffs. They have had progressively worse playoff performances since 2019.

And yet the Bruins scored 27 goals in 7 playoff games. Nearly 4 goals a game is pretty damn good.