Boston Bruins 2023 Off-Season CAP, Trade Rumors and Free Agent Talk IX

[Oates2Neely]

Only if dk and bergy are no show and need a stop gap for a year for crumbs. Whats out there ?

A better question is what’s IN here…

 

[JerseyBruin]

Such a good center that his team went out and traded quality assets for a 1C, then gave said center an 8yr extension and moved Barzal to wing. Just because a guy can "line up at center" doesn't mean he's good at it. His career 42.3% in the dot is awful.

Yeah imagine how popular he'd be here with those stats and earning 9M.

 

[JerseyBruin]

I think this is entirely fair and I'm sure a sentiment that is more common that has been stated.

I think we all looked at the level of goaltending that has won the last two Cups and ask whether having two guys who are better than either of them is really the most efficient use of cap space.

But who is to say that a tandem of Swayman and Bussi would even be top half in the league? Was there something in having these two guys that made each other better that you lose going to an unknown Bussi and a guy who has never been relied upon as the #1 in the NHL?

I've been in support of a goaltender trade all off-season. But I haven't been full-throated about it. Like you, I'd be hesitant. And honestly it's a toss up as to which goaltender I'd be most comfortable moving.

On the flipside , are we comfortable with a playoff tandem of Sway and Ullmark, assuming of course they qualify for postseason

 

[Dr Quincy]

We have for LD Grizz, Lindholm, Forb, Zboril, Lohrei. Who are we going to allow to block lohrei's potential spot?

A non-issue for this year. If he's ready next year there is a spot for him.

 

[JOKER 192]

Well ya because depending on arbitration we might need more cap space and it frees up 2024-2025 cap space

I see it like if anything keeps this team respectable next season it's going to come down to goaltending. I want to keep everyone but I sooner let TFred walk or trade a Forbort,Zboril or even Grizz before I let Ullmark go for cap space.

I'm encouraged by what Bussi did in the AHL but I'd like to see another season of that , even a few games the NHL to get at least a small sample size .
I'm forever haunted by the Subban experiment.

Like I said earlier I don't see trading Ullmark and the bringing in a Halak type to save 2M as a smart move.

 

[The don godfather]

A better question is what’s IN here…

Poitras is he ready?

 

[MarchysNoseKnows]

A non-issue for this year. If he's ready next year there is a spot for him.

Pretty good chance he’s ready this year. If not at the start then along the way. He’s there. He and Merkulov are as ready as a prospect can be.

 

[JOKER 192]

Pretty good chance he’s ready this year. If not at the start then along the way. He’s there. He and Merkulov are as ready as a prospect can be.

They may be ready but they both could easily be more ready than that.

 

[The don godfather]

Hope lysell makes the team . It's time.

 

[lopey]

Yeah, 2x4 makes total sense.

But a four year deal at that number? no.

Yup good bridge contract for him.

 

[GordonHowe]

Also from the Globe:

Keep an eye on Winnipeg, where the Jets won’t allow pivot Mark Scheifele to exit next summer as a UFA. They’ll look for an asset package similar to what they recently received from the Kings when unloading Pierre-Luc Dubois ahead of the final year on his deal. The Jets received a trio of forwards they’ll plug right into their roster — Gabe Vilardi, Alex Iafallo, and Rasmus Kupari. Scheifele, with a career scoring average of 0.9 points per game, could slot in with the Bruins at No. 1 or 2 center (right shot) for the next 4-5 years. Assets akin to what the Kings yielded: Jake DeBrusk, Pavel Zacha, and perhaps Fabian Lysell. It would hurt. High-profile deals often contain pain.

Against my better judgement, I perused KPD's column yesterday, including the last bit.

Yes, Kevin. The Bruins will surrender Jake DeBrusk, Pavel Zacha and "perhaps" Fabian Lysell for a 30 year old bad apple who apparently can't play defense.

Please.

Wow - even if there was an " or " between DeBrusk and Zacha I would easily say....

DuPont is a dope.

That's an absolute nonsense ask/potential ask/spitball.

Consider the source.

And your point would be...?

 

[wintersej]

Yeah, 2x4 makes total sense.

But a four year deal at that number? no.

I think at two years it’s under 4. I think folks are going to be surprised at the number Swayman comes in at. It’s going to be lower than what y’all have been saying. Games played is part of the equation in arbitration and the salaries for the guys who play less than 50% of the games is just on a different scale.

 

[Oates2Neely]

Poitras is he ready?

Beecher Merkulov

 

[JRull86]

Against my better judgement, I perused KPD's column yesterday, including the last bit.

Yes, Kevin. The Bruins will surrender Jake DeBrusk, Pavel Zacha and "perhaps" Fabian Lysell for a 30 year old bad apple who apparently can't play defense.

Please.



DuPont is a dope.



Consider the source.

And your point would be...?

I don't know, I'm not good at assigning value to other teams assets.

I do know that the proposed trade is utter dogshit from a Bruins perspective, and if that package was ever offered, Sweeney should be fired into the sun.

 

[Trashpass]

I think at two years it’s under 4. I think folks are going to be surprised at the number Swayman comes in at. It’s going to be lower than what y’all have been saying. Games played is part of the equation in arbitration and the salaries for the guys who play less than 50% of the games is just on a different scale.

I think he comes in at around 3-3.25 on a 2 or 3 year deal.These other comparables that are being used like Oettinger,Demko,Hart etc. These guys were going to be(or already were) the undisputed #1 guys for their teams. Swayman isn't that and shouldn't be expecting to earn as much as them.

 

[Tbaybruin]

Money issues

Must not have loved the player to some extent you would think

 

[wintersej]

I think he comes in at around 3-3.25 on a 2 or 3 year deal.These other comparables that are being used like Oettinger,Demko,Hart etc. These guys were going to be(or already were) the undisputed #1 guys for their teams. Swayman isn't that and shouldn't be expecting to earn as much as them.

I would offer him 1x2.5 and say we are going to give you 51% of the starts.

 

[bruins19]

I see it like if anything keeps this team respectable next season it's going to come down to goaltending. I want to keep everyone but I sooner let TFred walk or trade a Forbort,Zboril or even Grizz before I let Ullmark go for cap space.

I'm encouraged by what Bussi did in the AHL but I'd like to see another season of that , even a few games the NHL to get at least a small sample size .
I'm forever haunted by the Subban experiment.

Like I said earlier I don't see trading Ullmark and the bringing in a Halak type to save 2M as a smart move.

Agree that Subban was a hot mess. Could not stop a beach ball on his limited call-ups. Too bad for him.

 

[Banded Peak]

Hey I'm a Scheifele guy. I've previously mentioned that out of the rumoured available Cs, he's the only one I believed to be dynamic enough to really make an impact on line 1.

But the comparable trade was bogus to the extreme. Doubois being five years younger and one you can get for eight years to be a cornerstone vs Scheifele who would be 39 at the time a comparable deal would expire. Dubois should be the much more coveted asset with the larger return.

Then the writer's suggestion of what would be a comparable deal at even value? No. Iafallo is a middle sizer who has broken 40 points once in his career. He's 29. Vilardi is only 23, but he's the best asset dealt there with 23 goals last season. Kupari is young too, but he has yet to establish himself as a full-time contributing member of an NHL team.

DeBrusk. 26. Three time 25+ goal scorer already. 50 points last season which is a mark none of the LA guys have ever achieved. Zacha who hit 57 last year and played a clear role on a very successful regular season team. Led his team in scoring two seasons ago and is again only 26 and signed to great contract for the next four seasons. And Lysell who you can argue is similar value to a Kupari, but again four years younger with better numbers in his first 50 games in the AHL than Kupari put up.

The Bruins are giving up WAY more in this proposal than the Kings did. And for an asset not as valuable. This isn't a knock on Scheifele - it's a knock on a writer who put together a proposal that sucked despite setting his own parameters and flawed reasoning.

Fair enough, and I'd already stated the original trade proposal was too much in my view. My reply was specifically to a suggestion that a poster wouldn't trade Scheifele for Debrusk straight up, which, in my opinion, is crazy talk.

Trading Zacha for another center defeats the purpose of trading for another center.

I will add about the only thing PLD has on Scheifele is age, Scheifele is a much better player now and may continue to be better for a few years yet. Dubois is probably the most overrated player in the league imo.

 

[bbfan419]

I thought Reinhart was pretty invisible during the Panthers series.

I thought he played pretty well against the B's.

 

[Trashpass]

I would offer him 1x2.5 and say we are going to give you 51% of the starts.

Would be a fair price on a one year deal, if that's the route they go

 

[Dennis Bonvie]

On the flipside , are we comfortable with a playoff tandem of Sway and Ullmark, assuming of course they qualify for postseason

I am.

 

[TCB]

 

[bruins4thecup65]

Any word on Zadina?

 

[PatriceBergeronFan]

Lol wut.

If your concern over Scheifele is attitude, remember Jake Debrusk basically quit on the team cause he didn't like the coach. I mean, it can't be on ice ability because it's really no contest between the two players in that department.

Maybe the trade proposal is a bit rich in quantity, but some of the responses here have been a little silly. Some of you are underrating Scheifele to an extreme.

And some are listening to Felger a bit too much.

Debrusk never quit on the team despite his struggles and a bottom six non-scoring role.

Debrusk should be a Bruin long term.