Slaf Roy and Beck have not proven anything yet. You are ready to trade Farrell, Mesar who could be just as good and RHP who is proving him to be a good bottom guy who can play higher in the lineup in case of injury…
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It’s not magic beans to expect a 1st overall pick to be a top 6 F and 2 good prospects to play on a 3rd line….in 2 years.
Not sure what your point is.
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Demidov is a HAB
Possibly, but if you don't have to, you don't have to.
I like the RHD options more next year but if Reinbacher is the pick, I see enough upside there to be happy with it.
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I’ve honestly been pretty impressed with Kovasevic… plays a simple game but he’s been a very solid defensive dman in an Eddy sort of way. He could complement Hutson allowing Lane to freewheel.
But do think we see one of these LDs end up on the right side. I mean there are only 6 spots. Perhaps a guy like Guhle ends up on the right side? He’d be a nice pair for Hutson. Even Xhekaj…
Hutson, Mailloux, Guhle, Xhekaj, Kovasevic, Harris, Barron, Engstrom…
That’s just rookies and prospects. Throw in a guy like Matheson and maybe another vet to mix in and clearly we have more guys than spots already. I do like depth, but just think we already have plenty of it. This is as good a defensive group as we’ve had in years…
Vachon23
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Keith was a top 3 Dmen in the league and Letang was a top 10No way Habs are set on D they still don t have a top cornerstone D. Looking at last ten years SC winners :
COL : Makar (4OA)
TBL : Hedman (2OA)
STL : Pietrangelo (4OA)
WSH : Carlson (27OA)
PIT : Letang (62 OA)
CHI : Keith (54 OA)
LAK : Doughty (2 OA)
The two exceptions are PIT and CHI who had such offensive powerhouse (and great goaltending in the playoffs) they could compensate for having weaker top D but in their cup years, Letang and Keith were always key players.
I don t see MTL having that guy yet. Guhle has potential but he is getting injured a lot
If you want to win, you need a cornerstone Dmen and we don’t have it
Kovacevic is fine but he’s a #6-7, not someone you want with Hutson
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Every roster needs a guy who isn’t going to be paid more than a couple million who can be relied upon to PK, block shots, eat minutes and defend a lead. To me, Kovasevic is proving to be that type. The fact he’s one of only 2 regulars on the roster who are a plus helps show that as well. And that’s as a “defensive draw” guy too.
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Scout's Analysis: Ranking the top 51 prospects for the 2023 NHL Draft
Former scout Jason Bukala updates and expands his rankings for the 2023 NHL Draft, offering up his in-depth analysis on the top 51 prospects.
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Demidov is a HAB
Scout's Analysis: Ranking the top 51 prospects for the 2023 NHL Draft
Former scout Jason Bukala updates and expands his rankings for the 2023 NHL Draft, offering up his in-depth analysis on the top 51 prospects.www.sportsnet.ca
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I’ll be mad if we take Reinbacher with our first pick. We’re f***ing deep in dman pool. I know the « his a RD and we need RD » bs but we need more forwards.
We need forwards. Good elite forwards. This is a heavy forwards draft. Pick the best at your rank. Simple as that.
We need forwards. Good elite forwards. This is a heavy forwards draft. Pick the best at your rank. Simple as that.
Vachon23
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At the same time I do respect his opinion. Bukala is an ex Head Scout in the NHL
Like you said, they are many good forward in the draft so you’re having one with FLA pick.
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McCagg was on podcast yesterday, said he would take Danlil But at 3. Is this the guy Wilde spoke about a month ago, Habs may go off the board for?
I just ran a Tankathon. Got the 2nd with our pick.
In that situation I am taking Michkov with the 2nd pick and if available Reinbacher at 14.
Trading Dvorak + Kidney + Struble for PLD
2026
Dach - Suzuki - Caufield
Slaf - PLD - Michkov
Farrell - Beck - Roy
RHP - Evans - Anderson
Guhle - Hutson
Reinbacher - Mailloux
Harris - Barron
In that situation I am taking Michkov with the 2nd pick and if available Reinbacher at 14.
Trading Dvorak + Kidney + Struble for PLD
2026
Dach - Suzuki - Caufield
Slaf - PLD - Michkov
Farrell - Beck - Roy
RHP - Evans - Anderson
Guhle - Hutson
Reinbacher - Mailloux
Harris - Barron
MarkovsKnee
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There's no way Montreal goes off the board for But. Besides, McCagg also said we're not taking Russians with our #1st pick.
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Scout's Analysis: Ranking the top 51 prospects for the 2023 NHL Draft
Former scout Jason Bukala updates and expands his rankings for the 2023 NHL Draft, offering up his in-depth analysis on the top 51 prospects.
Highest I've seen Perreault. I'm still holding out hope Kiiskinen is still there at our 2nd round pick. It's looking less & less likely though.
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If the Habs aren't taking Michkov based on nationality, they are taking a different (worst) Russian top 10.
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What?Keith is probbaly the best defender of the 2010s ? Letang has been a top 10, if not top 5, defender for like a decade and a half now ?No way Habs are set on D they still don t have a top cornerstone D. Looking at last ten years SC winners :
COL : Makar (4OA)
TBL : Hedman (2OA)
STL : Pietrangelo (4OA)
WSH : Carlson (27OA)
PIT : Letang (62 OA)
CHI : Keith (54 OA)
LAK : Doughty (2 OA)
The two exceptions are PIT and CHI who had such offensive powerhouse (and great goaltending in the playoffs) they could compensate for having weaker top D but in their cup years, Letang and Keith were always key players.
I don t see MTL having that guy yet. Guhle has potential but he is getting injured a lot
I mention they were key players in their cup years. Keith was one of the best Ds I agree but Letang for me was always one step below them.
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Scout's Analysis: Ranking the top 51 prospects for the 2023 NHL Draft
Former scout Jason Bukala updates and expands his rankings for the 2023 NHL Draft, offering up his in-depth analysis on the top 51 prospects.
These player descriptions are all over the place.
He calls Smith a great skater
He calls Cristall a forward that hustles defensively
He calls Barlow dynamic offensively
He says Sale battles in the trenches ?
He says Benson is equal part shooter and passer ?
He says that Reinbacher is more of a passer rather than shooter and that he needs more deceptiveness in his shot to get them on net ??? Like buddy this is bizzarro world.
He says Dvorsky needs attention to detail on his defensive game and that he is an offensive play driver ?
Be wary of lists guys. Most of these f***ers don't even take a second to watch the players Im 100% sure at this point. It's a freaking shame that the scouting community is full of sham when there's so much scouting talent around.
You'll be mad the Habs picked a potential top pair D with size and physicality ? Lol.
The Habs don't need forwards, it's a strength. They need top end forwards and defenders. Reinbacher, Benson, Cristall and Smith are the only shot at being top line forwards/defenders after 4.
Caufield, Suzuki, Dach, RHP are more than good enough to be 2-3-4 forwards on a depth chart, they need to find #1, not another 2-3-4-5 kind of guy, the Habs have Slafkovsky, Farrell, Roy, Mesar, Beck, Kidney, Rohrer, and potentially even Dubois coming in to fill that gap 5-6-7 gap.
The Habs 100% have quantity in forwards, it's an absolute travesty that you can't see that.
Reinbacher 100% won't be there at 14.
With that said, this is an interesting problem. I do love Michkov a lot and I think he would be better than Carlsson and Fantilli, but I think Carlsson and Fantilli create a few strengths in the line-up that are hard to pass.
1. They knock down one of Dubois, Dach and Suzuki to 2C, or even 3C depending on the line up we want to ice.
2. They add much needed size.
3. I think that I'd rather have Caufield in the 1 offensive player spot and Suzuki down on the 2nd line doing more of a Bergeron to Krejci 2011 role with one of the two Cs than I'd rather have Michkov push down Caufield into a Kessel role in an exploitation role and have Suzuki/Dach or Dubois share the load, even if I think all three are around what Krejci/Bergeron were in 2011.
4. I think, especially Fantilli, makes the Habs competitive next year and I feel like there's value in that too. I also think Fantilli makes the Habs good enough to contend for a cup, even if he's not as good as Michkov.
f*** Am I picking Fantili over Michkov if Im the Habs ? Thats what no real elite center since Beliveau does to a MF.
You mentioned they were exception, while Keith was a slam dunk top 3 defender in the league for a 10 years period. What did you mean by that if not that he was lesser than the others ? It's okay to be wrong.
Oh I defininetely was wrong putting Letang and Keith in the same bag, that was bad formulation on my part. No issue admitting when I am wrong
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If they somehow selected But over Michkov, I will stop being a Habs fan.
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Yeah these descriptions are a head-scratcher for sure...
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