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TomKosto

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I can't believe how many people don't see this our forwards have been for the past 30 years and remain to this day anemic
Can you name one high end offensive prospect, a bluechip one, with the potential of being a 90pts player?! I can't. We could be lucky and one of our prospect become that kind of player, but a lot of them could bust also. Yes we have the best prospect pool we ever had, but that's because our product on ice sucks... I think it's the kind of draft that you go for the high end offensive potential,. We could always take Reinbacher with the Florida pick. I agree we need more offense than defense.
 
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Roy is a stretch to be a lock for middle 6 imo and I personally dont like drafting based on the idea that maybe we get Dubois I'll believe we get him when he steps on the ice for his first game as a Hab
Fine but why are you a fan of drafting for roster strength? Just look at 2018. They went for Kotnaniemi and a few years later they have Dach and Suzuki along with depth like Beck, Mesar, Evans, ETC.


Know your way more versed in the prospects then I am but what if the scouts just truly believe the 5/6 forwards aren't that special and just prefer the RHD?
I have another theory: the scouts truly believe that tue forwards at 5/6 are special and that Reinbacher is too. At least, thats what I believe.

People should really stop assuming theres any hype generated by Reinbachers position.
I don’t agree.

A guy like Dvorsky, if he pans out, will be much more useful on this team then Reinbacher. I take pretty much all top 10 forwards in front of Reinbacher.

I get the feeling he’s overrated because he’s the best dman in a top heavy forwards draft. He’s good but not top 10 lol.
Its so funny because Reinbacher is the kind of kid you would absolutely love. I bet he can fight, even.

There is no way Dvorsky is a more valuable player than Reinbacher when everything is done. And I love Dvorsky and think theres still 1C potential in there.
 
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Can you name one high end offensive prospect, a bluechip one, with the potential of being a 90pts player?! I can't. We could be lucky and one of our prospect become that kind of player, but a lot of them could bust also. Yes we have the best prospect pool we ever had, but that's because our product on ice sucks... I think it's the kind of draft that you go for the high end offensive potential,. We could always take Reinbacher with the Florida pick. I agree we need more offense than defense.

Whats more valuable, a 90 points forward or a top 15 D in the NHL?

Also it is way more likely that a forward with that potential is there at FLAs than Reinbacher is there, in fact it is almost a certainty. Reinbacher will go top 7.

One of Smith, Benson, Wood, Heidt, Cristall, Dvorsky, Sale will be there at 15-16.

Also Suzuki, Dach, Caufield and -sigh-, yes even Slaf all have similar offensive poyential to the forwards that are gonna be available for the 7th pick. If say Cristall and Sale could have the tools to be more, but I dont expect it from them.
 

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I can't believe how many people don't see this our forwards have been for the past 30 years and remain to this day anemic

We should take the best player available regardless. HuGo have shown they're willing to trade from areas we have some strength to fill holes in other areas (Dach vs. Romanov).

This isn't the Bergevin area where the only time we'd move a young guy was after they hit rock bottom and they'd get waived or traded for a plug like Martinsen.
 

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If we are picking 6th or 7th...we need to come away with at least Smith or Benson.
With our Florida pick...Reinbacher, Cristall, Leonard, Dvorsky, Honzek, Wood or Moore...would be a good thing.
 

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Can you name one high end offensive prospect, a bluechip one, with the potential of being a 90pts player?! I can't. We could be lucky and one of our prospect become that kind of player, but a lot of them could bust also. Yes we have the best prospect pool we ever had, but that's because our product on ice sucks... I think it's the kind of draft that you go for the high end offensive potential,. We could always take Reinbacher with the Florida pick. I agree we need more offense than defense.
Goodluck with that
 
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2 ping pong type of goals where he couldnt do anything, 1 where the player crashed on him and should have been disallowed and 1 breakaway against Bedard who sniped it near the post. Regina totally outplayed Brandon that game, not much Bjarnason could do. Ive been following Brandon lately and that Bjarnason kid has everything, perfect size for modern goaltending, good technically, good athleticims, good gloves work, stands tall in the net, Im no goaltenders expert, but the kid is really good and flashes alot of upside.
I like him, too, but I think his game needs a lot of attention on the finer points and he needs to play a lot of hockey to figure everything out.

I’ve watched a lot of Brandon’s games this year and over time you see guys in the corner firing pucks at him or coming out from behind the net or handling rebounds and it’s like, yeah, you could of played that differently.
 

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If anything, Barney is the one that gets hype for his position and our prospect pool being barren at that position.

Hes a good project but hes not head and shoulders above the group
 

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He’s a 17 years old center playing against men while getting low icetime.

When he’s playing against players of his age, he just flat out dominate.

The same issues I see are present against his same age group, he just has less resistance to use his shot and get inside.

2 ping pong type of goals where he couldnt do anything, 1 where the player crashed on him and should have been disallowed and 1 breakaway against Bedard who sniped it near the post. Regina totally outplayed Brandon that game, not much Bjarnason could do. Ive been following Brandon lately and that Bjarnason kid has everything, perfect size for modern goaltending, good technically, good athleticims, good gloves work, stands tall in the net, Im no goaltenders expert, but the kid is really good and flashes alot of upside.

He has everything needed but with any young goalie, consistency is key.
 

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Whats more valuable, a 90 points forward or a top 15 D in the NHL?

Also it is way more likely that a forward with that potential is there at FLAs than Reinbacher is there, in fact it is almost a certainty. Reinbacher will go top 7.

One of Smith, Benson, Wood, Heidt, Cristall, Dvorsky, Sale will be there at 15-16.

Also Suzuki, Dach, Caufield and -sigh-, yes even Slaf all have similar offensive poyential to the forwards that are gonna be available for the 7th pick. If say Cristall and Sale could have the tools to be more, but I dont expect it from them.
Is Reinbacher that good or we talk a lot about him because he's probably the only defenseman cracking the top15 this year?Honest question. I don't buy the hype that much, would prefer a Benson/Michkov/Smith/ at 5-6.
 

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Is Reinbacher that good or we talk a lot about him because he's probably the only defenseman cracking the top15 this year?Honest question. I don't buy the hype that much, would prefer a Benson/Michkov/Smith/ at 5-6.

I think there's maybe 1 or 2 people who would advocate Reinbacher over any of those 3.
 
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Like I said I'm not againts him at Florida pick, but seems to be a reach at 5-6, and I think we need a topline offensive threat more than a allaround def right now (I would take both if I can, a goalie too :P ).

It's reach at 5-6.. At 7 though he becomes a viable option and may be the right option.
 
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Is Reinbacher that good or we talk a lot about him because he's probably the only defenseman cracking the top15 this year?Honest question. I don't buy the hype that much, would prefer a Benson/Michkov/Smith/ at 5-6.
There is no "hype". He was just a relative unknown while these others have been around for years. You can bury your head in the sand if you want, or scout him.
 

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"Burry your head in the sand", because I don't agree with you, lmfao, okay...
You talk about hype, you talk about the strength of the position in the draft. These do not sound like opinions of a person that has a grasp of the player.

Not one mention of why you think the "hype" is not believable.

No disrespect meant, but why should you even disagree with me if you can't form an opinion on a player?
 

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"Burry your head in the sand", because I don't agree with you, lmfao, okay...
Well you mentioned that you don't buy the hype but had to ask if he's actually any good.

There are a group of us who genuinely believe he's a potential top pair RD. He has all the necessary tools to become one, and it's a pretty big hole in our prospect pool and one we have slim chance of filling if we don't draft it ourselves.

For me it depends who is on the board, but my personal list is
Bedard
Fantilli
Carlsson
Michkov (due to Russian factor)
Benson/Reinbacher
Smith

I have more concern with Smith translating his game to reach his projected ceiling of ~PPG forward than I do with Reinbacher growing into a top pair RD. Benson is a toss-up with Reinbacher for me because I like his all-round game and high offensive upside, main concern for me with him is his size but it's not really even a major concern.
 

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The way I see it is that you want to get the player with the biggest impact. Whatever the position... having said that I am not sold on Benson or Smith having a bigger impact than Reimbacher... but that's just me. Things are going to become more clear when we see some of these guys go head to head at the U18's
 
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I wouldn't use our top picks on a good. They too unpredictable. Sign a Samasnov type as UFA instead. He's already developed and get him now. That pick could turn into another Hutson or Beck. If they want to draft goalie take top European in 5th round. Most good goalie come from there nowadays
 
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TomKosto

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Well you mentioned that you don't buy the hype but had to ask if he's actually any good.

There are a group of us who genuinely believe he's a potential top pair RD. He has all the necessary tools to become one, and it's a pretty big hole in our prospect pool and one we have slim chance of filling if we don't draft it ourselves.

For me it depends who is on the board, but my personal list is
Bedard
Fantilli
Carlsson
Michkov (due to Russian factor)
Benson/Reinbacher
Smith

I have more concern with Smith translating his game to reach his projected ceiling of ~PPG forward than I do with Reinbacher growing into a top pair RD. Benson is a toss-up with Reinbacher for me because I like his all-round game and high offensive upside, main concern for me with him is his size but it's not really even a major concern.
I know he can be good, I'm just asking myself if that's the guy with the most upside or do we draft him because of a need? I think there's guy with more upside (not saying they dont have flaws) than him, and i also think we really need a offensive star more than anything. But thanks for sharing.
 

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If we are picking 6th or 7th...we need to come away with at least Smith or Benson.
With our Florida pick...Reinbacher, Cristall, Leonard, Dvorsky, Honzek, Wood or Moore...would be a good thing.
Sadly i think florida's pick will be used in a package for Dubois which would be a complete waste of assets.
 

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I know he can be good, I'm just asking myself if that's the guy with the most upside or do we draft him because of a need? I think there's guy with more upside (not saying they dont have flaws) than him, and i also think we really need a offensive star more than anything. But thanks for sharing.
I think there is the obvious top 4, and then I have a tier of Benson, Reinbacher, Smith who I think all have similar upside. Just comes down to who you prefer really. I know he has generally been ranked lower than that up to this point but it's likely just a lagging response from scouts since he kind of came out of nowhere at the start of the year. I would probably bet the house on him going top 10.
 
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