KevSkillz4
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Leonard is a really skilled player. Moore and him are very very good players to draft around 8-14.
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Leonard is a really skilled player. Moore and him are very very good players to draft around 8-14.
I see your point....to a point. LOL. Why not spread the three over your top 9. Is there a rule that we can't have 3 scoring lines? I know cap comes into play eventually, but having them all under ELC is a good problem to have.
Dach - Suzuki - Caufield
Slaf - PLD - Michkov
Benson - Beck - Anderson
It's that second centre in PLD that I really want.
le_sean
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Dach shouldn’t be on the wing anymore, he’s made that much obvious. Switch him and PLD.
BeliveauFan4ever
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The other day I checked the rosters of recent Cup winners. Players under 6 ft were scarce.
Two forwards - or less - under 6 ft.
It's going to change, because the last few drafts had very few 6+ ft forwards.
le_sean
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Did you gloss over Tampa? Kucherov, Point, Cirelli, Gourde. Plus Stamkos and Palat are exactly at 6’0 (not sure what the big difference between 5’11 and 6’0 would be. A subjective height to choose).
The key is to add talent. Then add size. We have the 32nd ranked PP. That’s not going to change because we add a 6’1 winger like Barlow. It’s going to change by adding talent like Benson.
Playmaker09
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5 of Pittsburgh's top 9 were under 6 ft. Though 4 of those 5 were 5'11.
Only Malkin and Bonino were over 6ft.
Playmaker09
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Yes. Everyone else has their own question marks and will require 1-2 years of development anyway before making the NHL.
So what if Michkov is signed for 3. What are we worried about missing? Their rookie year where they'll likely start on the 3rd/4th line and work their way up like Suzuki did?
TBH him being there for 3 years gives me peace of mind our management won't have the opportunity to f*** things up again.
BeliveauFan4ever
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Cirelli is 6 ft, my friend.
I specifically looked at Boston, St. Louis, Chicago and a more distant look back
at Mario’s Pens.
The key is talent and enough size, bc the puck battles intensify in the playoffs. Bigger players win bigger battles.
SOLR
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I mean.. where are you going with this exactly?
You WOULDNT draft michkov? you wouldnt draft Benson at 5 or 6?
Do you uh ... know how tall Connor Bedard is...?
How long is your ND list basically lol
You can't miss with either of the top 7 players really
BeliveauFan4ever
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Long story made short, If I’m building my forward ranks, I’d be looking to have no more than three players on four lines under six feet.
Three is 25 per cent.
I’d ideally like to have my smaller players built solid and strong on the puck. But more talented players can and do compensate for lack of bulk in their own way.
I don’t have a ND list. I’m all for accruing talent, but that’s one phase of building. The next is determining who are the real Keepers and who aren’t.
SOLR
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Again, it's about "some speed" with "some size" (at equal talent). Not 5'11'' vs 6'11''
I think we'll start seeing small fast teams win, but slow and small will never win.
Caufield and Suzuki are already not speed demons, Slaf is not fast, and Dach is above average, so if I look at our top 6, we need more speed AND size (in that order)
BeliveauFan4ever
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Well, yeah.
Caufield, (Michkov, Benson, dreamin!) Farrell, Hutson.
All could be Habs.
I think if they’re all on a future CH roster you’re looking at my “limit” in under six-footers, and it might well be too many.
So you would not draft Michkov because Farrell may possibly be in the NHL one day ?????
SOLR
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We'll trade a few. The real issue is that someone of them are small and not fast.
Hutson for example is small but he's so mobile who cares.
WeThreeKings
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Farrell is gonna be in the NHL this year.
And it's more just not making the move up for Michkov and happily settling for Reinbacher or Leonard where we pick and addressing a need, plus adding talent.
I think it's a moot point anyway, the Canadiens are one of the teams not drafting russians.
Respectfully, I think you are cherry picking data a little bit by focusing on how many players under 6 feet are on those teams. What is the percentage of players under 6 feet across the entire NHL? How does that compare?
Do the bottom 8 teams have a higher percentage of players under 6 feet than the top 8 teams over the past several years?
I am totally fine drafting smaller players if they are the best players available. There certainly is merit to have a solid mix of sizes, playing styles, etc. But I am not saying no to any of the top players in this draft who happen to be under 6'0 just because we already have Caufield, Hutson, etc.
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Michkov has good speed and is an elite sniper, he also has a strong built frame, doesnt really compare to Benson.who is more of an undersized playmaker.
BeliveauFan4ever
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Serious question or off the rails sarcasm?
Ok, probably the latter.
You draft the best you can, and put the puzzle together from there.
Some pieces will fit your plan, some won’t.
I think you ultimately want a roster that can handle and prevail in four gruelling rounds.
Nowhere do I ever say No to drafting ANY player bc they lack size.
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I would rather have a Heineman on that 3rd line than a Benson, especially comes playoffs time. If you draft Benson, its to have him on your top 6. I just think Benson isnt a good fit for us, if we had no Caufield, I would be more comfortable about that idea.
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
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I do. Benson is no Michkov, I would still prefer someone offering a better package of size/strength, speed and power. Its not that I dislike Benson as a hockey player, I fully understand the love and kid should amount to a very good NHLer
WeThreeKings
Demidov is a HAB
Okay but what about skill? You've got plenty of power and size/strength with PLD and Dach. They could absolutely use a dynamic, smart talent like Benson on their wing.
Benson might be no Michkov, but we aren't selecting Michkov.. he's either selected before we pick or we forego it because of the geopolitical and contract situation there.
If you can't get Bedard, Fantilli, Carlsson, Michkov or Smith.. Benson is the most talented guy left.
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Leonard has some great hands and good shooting skills, needs to work on his skating agility.
Moore's elite skating, high end motor and above average skills level makes him a pretty unique prospect as far as Im concerned, has all the tools to be a zone entries and pucks retrival beast.
In term of pure talent I agree, but I would take the guy with special tools who fits the mold better, even if his talent level is a bit lower.
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