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Yeah, that's what I meant by "tough go" -- I should have specified it was injuries, to be clear that it wasn't because of his ability or effort.
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Antiillafire
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Eh, I am not so sure. I’m not arguing about Brzustewicz, I think he should be higher. Although this is more a disagreement of the overall listing of the players. Scherzer is not a first round candidate atm. I am saying I think Strbak is a late first rounder as of now. Who knows though, could end up around the same draft spot as Fehervary (no.46). His play against Sweden says it all.
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Then my English bad because of course he played MHL and I meant that what he did last season was historical. But since he did not play in the KHL and dominated, some tried to downgrade what he achieved so far. But never mind, he is a fantastic talent who has the potential to dominate the NHL for many years if everything goes his way.
Ryan Van Horne
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Future is bright with great talent like Michkov, Demidov, Wright and Bedard
Ryan Van Horne
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Da, tovarisch.Future is bright with great talent like Michkov, Demidov, Wright and Bedard
Today i watched Färjestad - Frölunda (1-2) and Djurgården - Linköping (2-5) (LHC academy trophy J18). And many top prospects on the ice (2005). Otto Stenberg not that dominant but absolutely good. He tried The Michigan goal at least three times ... but he scored the GWG. Noah Dower Nilsson ok, but from my point of view he lacks a bit in competing. Johan Pålsson and Dennis Carlsson played well. In Färjestad Gustav Ling was really good, defender Noel Fransén also played a solid game. Victor Westh a bit sloopy. And the goalie Cassåsen looked good. Linköping surprised me and beat Djurgården. What impressed me the most was that Linköping played with five or six born 2006! Romeo Ekfeldt was ok in Linköping, but Djurgården was big disappointment today. Vilmer Alriksson scored a goal but did not se much of Lucas Stockselius for an example. Djurgården beat Färjestad with 10-1 on friday! And Färjestad beat Linköping ... But i did not se the games. Svenskhockey TV did not work ...
Antiillafire
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Benjamin Rautianainen had a very good year finishing #1 in the U16 SM-sarja - 2020-2021 scoring race.
I understand his skating might hold him back a bit, any scouting reports on him?
He was the best FIN forward in the games against Sweden. But not as good as Otto Stenberg was and definitely not in the second game. Otto Stenberg is more complete. Moves more seamless on the ice. On the other hand he was not so impressive when I saw him during the LHC Academy cup ...
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Just one question: on what occasions have you seen William Smith to rank him today ahead of Dalibor Dvorsky ?
For me the podium is 1 Bedard 2 Michkov 3 Dvorsky and what these 3 players showed leaves very little room for others to change this order.
I know many feel that nothing gets done that long before the draft, but from experience I know that the first position is set a long time before an elite player pulls away from the others.
For 2023, there are clearly 3 and in a very specific order.
I am more convinced of the top 3 2023 2 years from the draft than the top 3 2021 2 hours from the draft. If I could bet the order of the 2023 nhl draft, I will do so with confidence.
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So far the only bet we've had, I've won.
3 months later, I can hardly imagine you and KohoPai coming to say that Dvorsky's status as the best forward born in 2005 playing in Sweden is doubtful.
I think you have to go back a long way to see such an advanced player at 16 in Sweden.
He will play in SHL very soon, that's obvious. His career already looks like a No. 1 overall. Even Rasmus Dahlin hadn't impressed so much at 16.
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I'd say it's definitely doubtful. Dvorsky playing in the SHL soon seems quite doubtful too as AIK doesn't have a team in the SHL.
And I've never seen a "big 3" two years in advance actually go top 3.
Dahlin was a MUCH better prospect at 16. Not even close.
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Dirtyf1ghter
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Whoops. I thought AIK had gone up to SHL this year.
It makes his promotion in the senior circuit even more obvious and anyway, he seems to be quick to change teams overnight as he sees fit.
He flew to HG, he literally flies in Swedish junior hockey. I just did some research, it's awesome.
Even the Sedin twins or Sundin weren't so early.
If he maintains his performance and it is not forbidden to think that his aging is favorable to him compared to players older than him, it will be unheard of in the history of Swedish hockey.
Personally, I think Dvorsky is more likely to be 1 or 2 than out of the top 3.
I find it very risky for you to remain in denial.
Dahlin hadn't started pro at 15. He was still playing in U18.
Dahlin hadn't flown during an entire international tournament.
All credit can be given to Dahlin, he's ahead for Dvorsky. Let him play with the Seniors. Let him play the World U18 and World U20.
In September 2016, Dahlin did not have the credit that Dvorsky had in September 2021.
Dvorsky impresses me more than Nemec and yet Nemec impresses me a lot.
I think you still did not understand that there were some killers in the Slovak generation 2004/2005
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I think it’s too bold and puts too much pressure on them to declare them better than players of the past who had been proven. Player development is not linear, and all these guys have lots to improve on and develop in their game. Watching Bedard yesterday I saw several things he can get better at, as the Raiders were really attacking him.
I agree with @VictorLustig in that the top 3 can certainly change, we have seen it in drafts of the past. As for Dvorsky, he is carving his own path as a player, I don’t think he should be compared to the others as it’s something very difficult to track and actually get good analysis from. I will say though that @VictorLustig seems to have an unnecessarily negative view on him while drooling over Swedish prospects.
I agree with @VictorLustig in that the top 3 can certainly change, we have seen it in drafts of the past. As for Dvorsky, he is carving his own path as a player, I don’t think he should be compared to the others as it’s something very difficult to track and actually get good analysis from. I will say though that @VictorLustig seems to have an unnecessarily negative view on him while drooling over Swedish prospects.
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"Negative view on Dvorsky" and "Drooling over Swedish prospects"....
I don't remember even commenting on Dvorskys game. And who are the players I'm drooling over?
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If you don't predict the positions long in advance, it's no longer fun.
I like to define Aron Kiviharju n ° 1 2024 since 2016. I predict Roobroeck as n ° 1 2026 for more than 2 years.
No current fact makes me lie.
I will just say that Bedard and Michkov have been seen as 1 and 2 since 2018. And the only thing that has been able to change that perspective for 3 years is called Dvorsky.
Season after season, the trends are confirmed and reinforced. These 3 players have a very large lead.
In my opinion, the 4th man is to date Adam Fantilli, also detected elite talent for 3 years.
There are never really many surprises at the top of the leaderboard. It has often been noted for several years.
I like to define Aron Kiviharju n ° 1 2024 since 2016. I predict Roobroeck as n ° 1 2026 for more than 2 years.
No current fact makes me lie.
I will just say that Bedard and Michkov have been seen as 1 and 2 since 2018. And the only thing that has been able to change that perspective for 3 years is called Dvorsky.
Season after season, the trends are confirmed and reinforced. These 3 players have a very large lead.
In my opinion, the 4th man is to date Adam Fantilli, also detected elite talent for 3 years.
There are never really many surprises at the top of the leaderboard. It has often been noted for several years.
