Prospect Info: 2023 NHL Draft - Potential Selection Discussion

[Leaf Rocket]

That feels like a lot of them re entering

well, guess who was the GM when they were drafted...

 

[Menzinger]

That feels like a lot of them re entering

Likely. Wonder if Treliving may whisper into Shannys ear about any of them if he's running the draft.

I don't follow the Flames prospect group closely enough to get a good read on if they're worth a redraft with a late pick or not

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Likely. Wonder if Treliving may whisper into Shannys ear about any of them if he's running the draft.

I don't follow the Flames prospect group closely enough to get a good read on if they're worth a redraft with a late pick or not

I can already say Huckins and Whynot certainly are not. Just never developed after their draft years.

Cole Jordan is actually not eligible to be taken in the draft, but you can sign him to an AHL deal if you really wanted him. His skating is supposed to be really good but nothing else is.

Don't know much about Jack Beck, but those numbers are not really all that great.

Typically, if a guy is re-entering the draft, he is probably not worth a draft pick. Maybe worth an ELC/AHL contract next year if they develop well, but not a pick.

 

[Phion Keneuf]

None of them will get re-drafted. Much better players available, who are younger.

 

[TheBigFour]

The more I read about brindley, the more I want the leafs to draft him. I know his size is a factor but everything I read about him seems like he's can still have an impact in the NHL. Strong skating, strong offensive skills along with endless motor in him is intriguing.

also it looks like bob Mckenzie has him around 40's I think so there is chance leafs can drop down, add a pick and still draft him.

 

[hockeywiz542]

 

[Peasy]

The more I read about brindley, the more I want the leafs to draft him. I know his size is a factor but everything I read about him seems like he's can still have an impact in the NHL. Strong skating, strong offensive skills along with endless motor in him is intriguing.

also it looks like bob Mckenzie has him around 40's I think so there is chance leafs can drop down, add a pick and still draft him.

Yeah, he would be a good pick for the leafs. Hes shown he can already play with a high end player in Fantilli. Hes not afraid to go into the dirty areas and consistently does. Definitely doesnt shy away from physicality. Has shown to have solid offensive tools as well. Don't think his size will be an issue for him.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Yeah, he would be a good pick for the leafs. Hes shown he can already play with a high end player in Fantilli. Hes not afraid to go into the dirty areas and consistently does. Definitely doesnt shy away from physicality. Has shown to have solid offensive tools as well. Don't think his size will be an issue for him.

Is he an elite skater?

 

[hockeywiz542]

Is he an elite skater?

Brindley learning to master every phase of game ahead of 2023 NHL Draft

The 2023 NHL Draft is scheduled to be held at Bridgestone Arena in Nashville on June 28-29. Every two weeks, NHL.com will take a closer look at some of the draft-eligible players to watch.

www.nhl.com

Gavin Brindley likes to think of himself as the best chess player on the ice.

"Being able to process plays and make up plays in your head before they're going to happen is the biggest thing for me," said the University of Michigan freshman forward. "The speed and hockey sense required are probably the two biggest areas that are needed to play college hockey."

Brindley (5-foot-8, 165 pounds), a B-rated forward on NHL Central Scouting's preliminary players to watch list presented by BioSteel, has 10 points (one goal, nine assists) in 20 games. The 18-year-old right-handed shot can play wing or center.

He's looking to impress the USA Hockey staff this week during selection camp and earn a spot with the United States at the 2023 IIHF World Junior Championship, to be held in Halifax, Nova Scotia, and Moncton, New Brunswick, from Dec. 26-Jan. 5.

"He's playing 19-20 minutes a night, and the knock that people who don't know Gavin say he's not putting up big numbers," Michigan interim coach Brandon Naurato said. "But he's playing in all situations, on the 3-on-5 or 4-on-5 penalty kill, the power play, 5-on-5. He doesn't have the engine to go as much as we're playing him, to be honest, but the offense can be taught. It's not like any of these kids are defensive juggernauts, so that's why they're on the PK; we want to round out his game.

"If we just cared about Gavin getting points for his draft status, I can manipulate that very easily. But that doesn't help Gavin down the road. This helps Gavin down the road ... way more. He'll get his points."

Brindley appreciates any ice time he gets.

"I'm not the biggest guy, so a big thing is to be the hardest worker all the time," he said. "I just love being on the ice, and to have the opportunity to play PK, power play and be able to make an impact is crucial. I definitely don't take those opportunities for granted."

Brindley had 64 points (23 goals, 41 assists) in 102 games with Tri-City of the United States Hockey League games the past two seasons, and had nine points (two goals, seven assists) in 15 games with USA Hockey National Team Development Program Under-18 team last season.

"I really like how fast he is, he has a lot of pop during the game and is super reliable," Michigan sophomore defenseman Luke Hughes (New Jersey Devils) said. "He finds you when you're open and has a pretty good shot too. But I think his entries in the offensive zone are a key thing, possessing the puck and making good plays."

 

[hockeywiz542]

Gavin Brindley – DobberProspects

Gavin Brindley

Fantasy Summary

Undersized but tenacious forward with fantastic speed and agility. Can make plays under pressure and gets to the dirty areas to pressure opposing defenses. Projects as a middle-six NHL forward.

 

[as Pure as Evil]

If we make the pick my wishlist is
Kasper Halttunen
Daniil But

 

[Fonzieleaf]

Good philosophy, smart hockey man.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Brindley learning to master every phase of game ahead of 2023 NHL Draft

The 2023 NHL Draft is scheduled to be held at Bridgestone Arena in Nashville on June 28-29. Every two weeks, NHL.com will take a closer look at some of the draft-eligible players to watch.

www.nhl.com

Gavin Brindley likes to think of himself as the best chess player on the ice.

"Being able to process plays and make up plays in your head before they're going to happen is the biggest thing for me," said the University of Michigan freshman forward. "The speed and hockey sense required are probably the two biggest areas that are needed to play college hockey."

Brindley (5-foot-8, 165 pounds), a B-rated forward on NHL Central Scouting's preliminary players to watch list presented by BioSteel, has 10 points (one goal, nine assists) in 20 games. The 18-year-old right-handed shot can play wing or center.

He's looking to impress the USA Hockey staff this week during selection camp and earn a spot with the United States at the 2023 IIHF World Junior Championship, to be held in Halifax, Nova Scotia, and Moncton, New Brunswick, from Dec. 26-Jan. 5.

"He's playing 19-20 minutes a night, and the knock that people who don't know Gavin say he's not putting up big numbers," Michigan interim coach Brandon Naurato said. "But he's playing in all situations, on the 3-on-5 or 4-on-5 penalty kill, the power play, 5-on-5. He doesn't have the engine to go as much as we're playing him, to be honest, but the offense can be taught. It's not like any of these kids are defensive juggernauts, so that's why they're on the PK; we want to round out his game.

"If we just cared about Gavin getting points for his draft status, I can manipulate that very easily. But that doesn't help Gavin down the road. This helps Gavin down the road ... way more. He'll get his points."

Brindley appreciates any ice time he gets.

"I'm not the biggest guy, so a big thing is to be the hardest worker all the time," he said. "I just love being on the ice, and to have the opportunity to play PK, power play and be able to make an impact is crucial. I definitely don't take those opportunities for granted."

Brindley had 64 points (23 goals, 41 assists) in 102 games with Tri-City of the United States Hockey League games the past two seasons, and had nine points (two goals, seven assists) in 15 games with USA Hockey National Team Development Program Under-18 team last season.

"I really like how fast he is, he has a lot of pop during the game and is super reliable," Michigan sophomore defenseman Luke Hughes (New Jersey Devils) said. "He finds you when you're open and has a pretty good shot too. But I think his entries in the offensive zone are a key thing, possessing the puck and making good plays."

Oh jeez, 5'8? Yea that's a no go for me.

 

[Coaches Coroner]

I will yet again hope for a 6'2+ defenseman who can skate. I saw Oliver Bonk play this year and while he wasn't exciting, he looked like a big, toolsy guy who could develop into a solid player. Unfortunately, the Rags are drafting ahead of us and they will probably pick him up just like they took Schneider and Miller when we should have.

Bonk isn't very physical. Good example of size not equating to grit/toughness. Good offensive player and puck mover tho...he'd probably get reemed around here for not hitting everything like Chris Pronger.

Citation needed.

My favourite part of prospect discussions is when people make up ceilings and floors for kids. When you're drafting outside of the top5, players are magic beans. You pick the magic beans that you like the most and then hope they sprout. NHL bluelines are full of top pairing guys who were late round picks and developed into steady two way players. I like magic beans that are 6'2 defenders and can play two-way hockey.

...and when they don't pick the magic beans armchair scouts like, or if the beans aren't big enough, this place melts down even if they've never seen the guy play a game lol.

 

[Fonzieleaf]

Gavin Brindley – DobberProspects

Gavin Brindley

Fantasy Summary

Undersized but tenacious forward with fantastic speed and agility. Can make plays under pressure and gets to the dirty areas to pressure opposing defenses. Projects as a middle-six NHL forward.

Gaudreau vibes

 

[ErnieLeafs]

Brindley learning to master every phase of game ahead of 2023 NHL Draft

The 2023 NHL Draft is scheduled to be held at Bridgestone Arena in Nashville on June 28-29. Every two weeks, NHL.com will take a closer look at some of the draft-eligible players to watch.

www.nhl.com

Gavin Brindley likes to think of himself as the best chess player on the ice.

"Being able to process plays and make up plays in your head before they're going to happen is the biggest thing for me," said the University of Michigan freshman forward. "The speed and hockey sense required are probably the two biggest areas that are needed to play college hockey."

Brindley (5-foot-8, 165 pounds), a B-rated forward on NHL Central Scouting's preliminary players to watch list presented by BioSteel, has 10 points (one goal, nine assists) in 20 games. The 18-year-old right-handed shot can play wing or center.

He's looking to impress the USA Hockey staff this week during selection camp and earn a spot with the United States at the 2023 IIHF World Junior Championship, to be held in Halifax, Nova Scotia, and Moncton, New Brunswick, from Dec. 26-Jan. 5.

"He's playing 19-20 minutes a night, and the knock that people who don't know Gavin say he's not putting up big numbers," Michigan interim coach Brandon Naurato said. "But he's playing in all situations, on the 3-on-5 or 4-on-5 penalty kill, the power play, 5-on-5. He doesn't have the engine to go as much as we're playing him, to be honest, but the offense can be taught. It's not like any of these kids are defensive juggernauts, so that's why they're on the PK; we want to round out his game.

"If we just cared about Gavin getting points for his draft status, I can manipulate that very easily. But that doesn't help Gavin down the road. This helps Gavin down the road ... way more. He'll get his points."

Brindley appreciates any ice time he gets.

"I'm not the biggest guy, so a big thing is to be the hardest worker all the time," he said. "I just love being on the ice, and to have the opportunity to play PK, power play and be able to make an impact is crucial. I definitely don't take those opportunities for granted."

Brindley had 64 points (23 goals, 41 assists) in 102 games with Tri-City of the United States Hockey League games the past two seasons, and had nine points (two goals, seven assists) in 15 games with USA Hockey National Team Development Program Under-18 team last season.

"I really like how fast he is, he has a lot of pop during the game and is super reliable," Michigan sophomore defenseman Luke Hughes (New Jersey Devils) said. "He finds you when you're open and has a pretty good shot too. But I think his entries in the offensive zone are a key thing, possessing the puck and making good plays."

A projected “middle six” forward, at 5’8, 165?
Hard pass

 

[SeaOfBlue]

Other than Danielson, who seems to be attractive enough to teams to go higher than that, a good portion of those guys should be available at 28 (and even at a trade down spot if we choose to go that route).

Also a solid set of prospects overall, but some of them I would trade down if they were the best guys left: But, Stramel, Ziemmer, Price, Halttunen, and Bonk. All are fine prospects, but you could trade down ~10 spots before you get to the point where those guys are BPA. Possibly even more for some like But (I am not a big fan of his game).

 

[Stephen]

I feel positive and hopeful going into this draft knowing we sit at 28 and our GM isn't likely to do a trade back and that getting quantity is so much better than quality.

 

[LaPlante94]

I feel positive and hopeful going into this draft knowing we sit at 28 and our GM isn't likely to do a trade back and that getting quantity is so much better than quality.

Tbh in some of the past drafts I feel like maybe that was the case but this draft just seems to have so many good players in the top 60-70 that trying to get 2 picks in that range instead of just 1 at 28 might be better tbh. Hell I'd even consider moving Brodie to get maybe a 2nd or 3rd round pick and maybe a roster player if that's possible and if we feel confident in our d core with McCabe replacing that Brodie role.

 

[Stephen]

Tbh in some of the past drafts I feel like maybe that was the case but this draft just seems to have so many good players in the top 60-70 that trying to get 2 picks in that range instead of just 1 at 28 might be better tbh. Hell I'd even consider moving Brodie to get maybe a 2nd or 3rd round pick and maybe a roster player if that's possible and if we feel confident in our d core with McCabe replacing that Brodie role.

I think there's a time and a place for a trade down, but not to the extent where it's the default mentality as in the Dubas era. If they had managed their "own rentals" a little better over the years they'd have a few more draft picks in the top 60-70 to work with over the years.

 

[LaPlante94]

I think there's a time and a place for a trade down, but not to the extent where it's the default mentality as in the Dubas era. If they had managed their "own rentals" a little better over the years they'd have a few more draft picks in the top 60-70 to work with over the years.

I agree, but when you only have 3 picks in a strong draft I think it's an acceptable time/reason to trade down to get extra picks.

 

[Stephen]

I agree, but when you only have 3 picks in a strong draft I think it's an acceptable time/reason to trade down to get extra picks.

Nah I disagree. I think you grab the most bluechip thing you can get your hands on and if that’s trading up you do it. That’s where the real scouting comes into focus and you move off all that Dubas stuff about odds, percentages and that betting language he loves so much.

 

[WTFMAN99]

Nah I disagree. I think you grab the most bluechip thing you can get your hands on and if that’s trading up you do it. That’s where the real scouting comes into focus and you move off all that Dubas stuff about odds, percentages and that betting language he loves so much.

If someone is there you love and there's a drop off, absolutely.

 

[LaPlante94]

Nah I disagree. I think you grab the most bluechip thing you can get your hands on and if that’s trading up you do it. That’s where the real scouting comes into focus and you move off all that Dubas stuff about odds, percentages and that betting language he loves so much.

Well sure, if the talent in the 20-60 range completely fell off then it makes sense to move up. We have 3 picks and after our 1st pick we don't pick until the 5th round I believe. Nobody is trading with us to move up unless we give picks from next years draft and even then they might not do it. The talent in the 20-60 range this year isn't a huge drop off and I'd rather get 2 guys in that range who could be impact players somehow on our team in the future over 1.

 

[Stephen]

Well sure, if the talent in the 20-60 range completely fell off then it makes sense to move up. We have 3 picks and after our 1st pick we don't pick until the 5th round I believe. Nobody is trading with us to move up unless we give picks from next years draft and even then they might not do it. The talent in the 20-60 range this year isn't a huge drop off and I'd rather get 2 guys in that range who could be impact players somehow on our team in the future over 1.

If I’m a GM, I’m not playing historical percentages on picks and I’m leaning heavy on scouts to find the true gems in each draft. The Dubas era just struck me as playing the odds and that’s not all of it. There’s got to be insight as well.