HF Habs: 2023 NHL Draft part 2

[DramaticGloveSave]

I expect the Coyotes to go D at 6- can get a forward at 12- but not sure it’s a foregone conclusion that Reinbacher is the first D off the board.

 

[Vachon23]

Hahaha, I didn't know that.. but I don't think I was much of a fan of Gauthier's dad either.

Unconscious bias lol

Yes I was pretty sure you didn’t knew that

It was just to easy haha

 

[AHShadow]

I do like the Sam Bennett comparaison

Really hope we don't draft him and draft someone with high-upside instead. We need another Hutson-type pick. Give me Cristall at 31.

 

[26Mats]

For me, I guess it would depend on the pick at 5. If for exemple the pick is Benson, i think the pick at 31 should be a forward with size. Don’t feel like end first is a good place for a RD without reaching.

I’m not part of the size at all cost team but it’s something that needs monitoring, can’t have half your forwards under 5’10.

Now, if Cristal or Heidt, or other I have in my top15-20, are available at 31 they should be the pick. But if no one drops, i’m down for a counter balance to Benson.

I think we can have at most 1 small forward on each of the 3 lines in the top 9. Caufield and RHP are 2. So that leaves room for only 1 more.

So I also don't want to draft a small forward both at 5 and 31, unless there happens to be an exceptional talent at 31.

 

[Vachon23]

If we draft Leonard, I agree that we shouldn’t take Ethan Gauthier at 31

But if we take Will Smith/Zach Benson, I do think we should consider highly Ethan Gauthier

 

[le_sean]

Reinbacher is not a Seider/Heiskanen

His metrics are better, that is undeniable. Whether he reaches their potential remains to be seen. But he’s had a better draft year.

It would be very Montreal to draft the Dman when there are so many good Fs with PPG upside on the board.

We don't deserve to see good homegrown forwards, it should always be a struggle to score. This seems to be the Montreal way.

Pin all the hopes on Pacioretty and then on Caufield... meanwhile other teams have two, three, or even four exciting forwards.

Well if the Habs and the Rangers (the staff we poached) could ever be praised for anything draft-related, it would be in identifying and developing great defencemen. If they feel Reinbacher is worthy, I will trust them on that. They don’t exactly have the best track record with forwards however.

 

[AHShadow]

If we draft Leonard, I agree that we shouldn’t take Ethan Gauthier at 31

But if we take Will Smith/Zach Benson, I do think we should consider highly Ethan Gauthier

Always higher upside to me.

Even if Mesar seems like a miss (for now), I'd rather we go Mesar and Hutson and hit on 1 then try and accumulate 10 Becks on the team. Beck is looking really good, but those are way easier to trade for and cost less.

I'd rather Cristall, Perreault, Perron, Musty, Sawchyn and even Ds like Mania instead of Gauthier.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Always higher upside to me.

Even if Mesar seems like a miss (for now), I'd rather we go Mesar and Hutson and hit on 1 then try and accumulate 10 Becks on the team. Beck is looking really good, but those are way easier to trade for and cost less.

I'd rather Cristall, Perreault, Perron, Musty, Sawchyn and even Ds like Mania instead of Gauthier.

If Perreault fell to 31, I'd jump higher than I did when Caufield fell to 15 and probably finally hit my head on the ceiling

 

[yalbmert25]

Always higher upside to me.

Even if Mesar seems like a miss (for now), I'd rather we go Mesar and Hutson and hit on 1 then try and accumulate 10 Becks on the team. Beck is looking really good, but those are way easier to trade for and cost less.

I'd rather Cristall, Perreault, Perron, Musty, Sawchyn and even Ds like Mania instead of Gauthier.

Mania makes too many mistakes in the D zone and can't run a PP unit. Don't draft that guy until at least the 3rd round. He rushes a lot, has really good hands, and is a good skater. I don't think his game will translate at the next level. Takes too many chances.

Musty's game is inconsistent. He's hot and cold. Some nights it looks like he's got it all figured out and will be a top 3 player in the league, then the next game he's making countless mistakes that costs his team. Skating has been an issue. Doesn't use his size at all! He should be a dominant board player in the O and doesn't use it. I'm convinced he doesn't want to be F1. Late first, you take your shot, and hot the skating and physical play comes around because he would be so friggen good!

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Mania makes too many mistakes in the D zone and can't run a PP unit. Don't draft that guy until at least the 3rd round. He rushes a lot, has really good hands, and is a good skater. I don't think his game will translate at the next level. Takes too many chances.

Musty's game is inconsistent. He's hot and cold. Some nights it looks like he's got it all figured out and will be a top 3 player in the league, then the next game he's making countless mistakes that costs his team. Skating has been an issue. Doesn't use his size at all! He should be a dominant board player in the O and doesn't use it. I'm convinced he doesn't want to be F1. Late first, you take your shot, and hot the skating and physical play comes around because he would be so friggen good!

Agreed on Mania but I think the upside is pretty high with a good development team. Musty you'd really have to do your due diligence with interviewing, some guys just don't want it as much.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I do like the Sam Bennett comparaison

Damn, you don’t hear that too often from a player. I guess we'll see what happens.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Damn, you don’t hear that too often from a player. I guess we'll see what happens.

In my mock I have him going to the Canes, but if he's there he's pretty much exactly what we'd need up front. Our RW depth in the pool is pretty shallow, especially for physical players.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I expect the Coyotes to go D at 6- can get a forward at 12- but not sure it’s a foregone conclusion that Reinbacher is the first D off the board.

I mean they can get a D at 12 too. I don't expect both ASP and Willander to be gone by then. They're probably both there.

Apparently, Blues have said their preference this draft is to take a D, although they're not 100% on it. My guess is they take Reinbacher if he's there.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

I mean they can get a D at 12 too. I don't expect both ASP and Willander to be gone by then. They're probably both there.

Apparently, Blues have said their preference this draft is to take a D, although they're not 100% on it. My guess is they take Reinbacher if he's there.

I've heard the Blues are particularly interested in Honzek. Wouldn't be surprised to see them reach a bit on him at 10, as there should be dmen available to them at 25 and 29.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

In my mock I have him going to the Canes, but if he's there he's pretty much exactly what we'd need up front. Our RW depth in the pool is pretty shallow, especially for physical players.

He does seem like a Canes type of player, but I can see Philadelphia (Briere would know the family), St. Louis (pick twice before Canes), and Colorado having interest as well.

 

[MarkovsKnee]

I've heard the Blues are particularly interested in Honzek. Wouldn't be surprised to see them reach a bit on him at 10, as there should be dmen available to them at 25 and 29.

Yeah, apparently they've interviewed Honzek a lot & like him. Blues have no defensive prospects of note, like nothing. They're much stronger at forward.

I think they would take Reinbacher before Honzek, but DR might not get to them.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Yeah, apparently they've interviewed Honzek a lot & like him. Blues have no defensive prospects of note, like nothing. They're much stronger at forward.

I think they would take Reinbacher before Honzek, but DR might not get to them.

I have Reinbacher going to Philly, but definitely possible he's taken before that. Don't think he lasts all the way to St. Louis, but you never know. Could also see St. Louis targeting Sawchyn with one of their later 1sts, they had success drafting an extremely similar player in Matchbox 20 back in 2017.

 

[ginomini]

Michkov now has the best betting odds for Montreal's pick (Mise-O-Jeu). That's interesting!

Also, if anything Reinbacher's stock is still climbing, not falling! He now has the second best odds for montreal, and hs better odds than Leonard on the 1 vs 1.

These will change after Bobby Mac's ranking on Thursday, but I fully expect Reinbacher to be top 7 on his ranking and most likely 5th of 6th.

 

[SannywithoutCompy]

Any predictions on Bobby Mac's top 10?

I'll say
1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Carlsson
4. Smith
5. Michkov
6. Leonard
7. Reinbacher
8. Benson
9. Dvorsky
10. Moore

 

[Gainesvillain]

Any predictions on Bobby Mac's top 10?

1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Smith
4. Carlsson
5. Michkov
6. Leonard
7. Reinbacher
8. Dvorsky
9. Benson
10. Barlow

 

[DramaticGloveSave]

I mean they can get a D at 12 too. I don't expect both ASP and Willander to be gone by then. They're probably both there.

Apparently, Blues have said their preference this draft is to take a D, although they're not 100% on it. My guess is they take Reinbacher if he's there.

After the big 4 there very well could be a D run of some sorts. Don’t think it’s impossible three go between 6 and 12.

 

[The Gr8 Dane]

Anybody know when bobby macs list drops? Is it exactly one week before the draft? ( tomorrow)

 

[Kennerback]

If we draft Leonard, I agree that we shouldn’t take Ethan Gauthier at 31

But if we take Will Smith/Zach Benson, I do think we should consider highly Ethan Gauthier

I trust the Habs will not draft Leonard. Some team with a substandard scouting team will pick him up.

 

[BergevinBurner]

Anybody know when bobby macs list drops? Is it exactly one week before the draft? ( tomorrow)

On Thursday.

 

[Whitesnake]

I'm more excited by Simashev ceiling than Reinbacher's....But outside of the top 5, I think that Reinbacher's floor is top 5-10 material.