Prospect Info: 2023 NHL Draft - Part 2 (Who Do You Want To Draft At #2)

[Dr Johnny Fever]

You guys have really got me chasing my tail over who we should pick. I was strongly on the Fantilli train, but I’m starting to get weak kneed. Maybe we should just trade down with CBJ and take whoever they don’t? LoL

 

[ohcomeonref]

You guys have really got me chasing my tail over who we should pick. I was strongly on the Fantilli train, but I’m starting to get weak kneed. Maybe we should just trade down with CBJ and take whoever they don’t? LoL

The scout consensus seems to have Fantilli 2nd. I think people are bored and reading too much into things

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

The scout consensus seems to have Fantilli 2nd. I think people are bored and reading too much into things

I do think a legit argument can be made for either guy. But I also agree that when you draft this high you really have to go BPA. Team fit cannot be the priority unless you absolutely see them as a dead heat. I hope like hell BPA dictates our pick.

 

[robbieboy3686]

I do think a legit argument can be made for either guy. But I also agree that when you draft this high you really have to go BPA. Team fit cannot be the priority unless you absolutely see them as a dead heat. I hope like hell BPA dictates our pick.

Even though fantilli also is best team fit as well. But people around here just like to stir shit up

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Im pretty interested in Nadeau... but im kinda hoping he falls into that 59/60 ... or if we end up adding more picks by draft day... maybe potentially find room for him in our list.

I've seen lots of mocks have Nadeau at the bottom of the first. At 59/60 or 65, we should look at his teammate, Aydar Suniev. The reason Suniev chose the BCHL route is so he can preserve the opportunity to go to the NCAA program, where he has intended to go to UMass.

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Suniev reminds me of Pastujov - lots of offensive skills, but lacking in skating. Suniev has been described as a power forward, which does fit in with Verbeek's vision.

 

[Mr Rogers]

Crazy how we still have over a week left lol

 

[Trojans86]

Would be interesting to get both of them and play them together. I love how Gavin skates. Incredibly shifty. Also plays with great intensity. Definitely playoff style.

 

[Anarchynate]

The thing Fantilli brings to the table that I love the most is his north/south skating. He steals a puck he’s at the other teams net in seconds. That’s something other teams need to game plan about. The ducks lack that truly explosive speed.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

The thing Fantilli brings to the table that I love the most is his north/south skating. He steals a puck he’s at the other teams net in seconds. That’s something other teams need to game plan about. The ducks lack that truly explosive speed.

I think that’s why he often gets the Mack comparison….

I like fantilli speed and tenacity…. I just think he’s a good fit stylistically with what we have….. it’s just tough to find that type of player that his potential is

 

[Anaheim4ever]

The thing Fantilli brings to the table that I love the most is his north/south skating. He steals a puck he’s at the other teams net in seconds. That’s something other teams need to game plan about. The ducks lack that truly explosive speed.

I remember in 2011 when the Ducks forced a turnover it would be Selanne and Fowler at the other teams net in a seconds lol they were like video game speed. Selanne has to be the last high end offensive minded forward they had with speed that could do that ?

07 McDonald and Selanne were a speed force too. Every team was focused on keeping McDonald and Selanne off the score sheet in 07 which is why they didn't produce as much as the Getzlaf line. That said they had their moments like McDonalds hat trick vs Minnesota, Selanne OT goal vs Detroit.

 

[Emerald Duck]

I know that this forum is about the Ducks' pick at #2 (I think it will be Fantilli), but personally I think Bedard is going to struggle early on with the Blackhawks. He has a great shot but he's never faced NHL goalies or tried to create space for his shot against NHL dmen either. There's not a lot of talent around him so who is going to feed him the puck when the other team focuses on him ? His coronation as the next generational talent is a little premature.

He probably wishes the Ducks won the lottery

 

[Mr Rogers]

I know that this forum is about the Ducks' pick at #2 (I think it will be Fantilli), but personally I think Bedard is going to struggle early on with the Blackhawks. He has a great shot but he's never faced NHL goalies or tried to create space for his shot against NHL dmen either. There's not a lot of talent around him so who is going to feed him the puck when the other team focuses on him ? His coronation as the next generational talent is a little premature.

He probably wishes the Ducks won the lottery

I'm really curious to see how he does this year and thereafter. as it stands, his skating is not going to let him maneuver into spots to get that shot off especially against competent dmen. like you said I'm also interested to see how NHL goalies fare against his shot, it's one thing to score on 17 and 18 year olds but pro goalies are going to be able to make adjustments a lot quicker and are just generally more skilled.

 

[WhatTheDuck]

 

[Leonardo87]

I know that this forum is about the Ducks' pick at #2 (I think it will be Fantilli), but personally I think Bedard is going to struggle early on with the Blackhawks. He has a great shot but he's never faced NHL goalies or tried to create space for his shot against NHL dmen either. There's not a lot of talent around him so who is going to feed him the puck when the other team focuses on him ? His coronation as the next generational talent is a little premature.

He probably wishes the Ducks won the lottery

Not to cope about losing out on Bedard, but all I want is for Fantilli/Carlsson to be right behind him, and not a gap like say McDavid and Eichel. Although Eichel closing that gap a little with his SC win. Just a little, lol.

 

[Gliff]

I want Lardis so badly. I just dont think he will last to the end of the 2nd and I think there will be other guys who drop unexpectedly from the 1st round that the Ducks will target with their first 2nd.

 

[ScarTroy]

No matter who we pick I’ll be pretty ecstatic about them. They each bring their own unique element that we could use.

If we put Carlsson with another one of our high IQ guys they could make some magic out there. Can you imagine the nutty shit him and Zegras could cook up? Zegras gave Milano one of the best highlight goals ever, and Milano didn’t need to do anything other than have good hand eye coordination.

Fantilli however could open some space for our high IQ guys who can set him up for his deadly shot. I think everyone is over analyzing his IQ anyways, he thinks the game at a high level.

Like most of us I have flip flopped a few times on who I’d like with our pick. Ultimately I think I’ll end up wanting Fantilli. We sorely need a guy who as soon as he hops over the boards, the opponent will be thinking “here we go again.”

 

[nbducksfan19]

I still see it as an absolute toss up between Fantilli and Carlsson.

However, If we do go with Carlsson, I hope we can sign someone like Tyler Bertuzzi who can bring in some of the much needed sandpaper and fight that Fantilli would add. I think that would mitigate some of the "draft Fantilli because he fits our needs better" arguments.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

This is the one draft where you do not trade down to #5. If the Ducks did that it means they don't even get Smith at #4. They'd be stuck with Michkov and have to cross fingers that a war ends + circumstances in Russia stabilize so they allow him to leave. The circumstances with what happened to Michkovs dad makes it even more risky they'd allow him to leave.

Smith is massively underrated but he's got as good as passing/IQ as Carlsson and a elite shot like Fantilli its just that he's only 6'0 & doesn't have Fantilli skating. You miss out on that if they trade down to #5.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

I still see it as an absolute toss up between Fantilli and Carlsson.

However, If we do go with Carlsson, I hope we can sign someone like Tyler Bertuzzi who can bring in some of the much needed sandpaper and fight that Fantilli would add. I think that would mitigate some of the "draft Fantilli because he fits our needs better" arguments.

If they go Carlsson they need to get another 1st and draft a guy with a big shot in the 1st round.
There is still tons of guys with hard shots in that first round like Barlow, Leonard etc.
I'm not sold on Pastujov and Perreault panning out for the Ducks.

A powerplay of Zegras, Carlsson, Terry, McTavish, Fowler the other teams know they will pass it to McTavish to shoot so their PKers know where to block shots.

 

[nbducksfan19]

If they go Carlsson they need to get another 1st and draft a guy with a big shot in the 1st round.
There is still tons of guys with hard shots in that first round like Barlow, Leonard etc.
I'm not sold on Pastujov and Perreault panning out for the Ducks.

A powerplay of Zegras, Carlsson, Terry, McTavish, Fowler the other teams know they will pass it to McTavish to shoot so their PKers know where to block shots.

I agree that another shooter would be good, but I think Terry and Zegras are a threat to shoot. Also, we will be adding great shot in Zellweger from the PPQB spot.

 

[ohcomeonref]

I agree that another shooter would be good, but I think Terry and Zegras are a threat to shoot. Also, we will be adding great shot in Zellweger from the PPQB spot.

I wonder if Ducks brass is projecting or planning for any of our big 3 young D to make the jump this year.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

I agree that another shooter would be good, but I think Terry and Zegras are a threat to shoot. Also, we will be adding great shot in Zellweger from the PPQB spot.

They can score goals for sure, their playmaking is the best on the team.
Imagine if they picked Quinn over Drysdale in 2020, they'd be set with McTavish and Quinn as the shooters while they'd still have Zellweger, Mintyukov, Luneau, Hinds, LaCombe, Warren etc as the future of the blueline.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

They can score goals for sure, their playmaking is the best on the team.
Imagine if they picked Quinn over Drysdale in 2020, they'd be set with McTavish and Quinn as the shooters while they'd still have Zellweger, Mintyukov, Luneau, Hinds, LaCombe, Warren etc as the future of the blueline.

Id take Drsydale over Quinn pretty comfortably still.


Evangelista over Colangelo woulda been nice tho

 

[Trojans86]

I know that this forum is about the Ducks' pick at #2 (I think it will be Fantilli), but personally I think Bedard is going to struggle early on with the Blackhawks. He has a great shot but he's never faced NHL goalies or tried to create space for his shot against NHL dmen either. There's not a lot of talent around him so who is going to feed him the puck when the other team focuses on him ? His coronation as the next generational talent is a little premature.

He probably wishes the Ducks won the lottery

He is amazing in so many ways but I can see him struggling more than people think because of his size and lack of elite speed. Nhl defensemen are a seriously different level and the stuff he tries may not translate as much as everyone thinks. If things work out well for Fantili it would not surprise me at all if he was the better nhler and a much better playoff performer.

 

[91Fedorov]

I wonder if Ducks brass is projecting or planning for any of our big 3 young D to make the jump this year.

On the last episode of Crash the Pond, they had a scout from elite prospects on. He said he thinks Zellweger and Mintyukov are both NHL ready right now.