Prospect Info: 2023 NHL Draft (mod warning 1st post)

[Anaheim4ever]

Yeah i know its early but 2022 draft discussion started pretty quickly too last year.
So far its #1 Bedard and #2 Mitchkov but after that what are players you are interested in for the Ducks ?
I don't see Bedard falling like Wright did at all. Who will be this years Slaf and Cooley ?

Blanket warning to everyone - the season is over, the active tanking is over, and everyone needs to remember how to get along.

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[Masch78]

I think the Ducks deserve the first #1 overall pick in franchise history

 

[LiveLaughDucks]

Clearly, you don't understand the word " if ". Clearly you don't understand changing rules can augment odds. Clearly, you believe everything I wrote is definitive. smh

Clinging to the word ‘if’ here is comical. If that’s the hill you’re gonna plant your flag on then you may as well have said “IF the Ducks win the lottery then there’s a 100% chance they’ll get to pick first overall.”

 

[Anarchynate]

Watching the U18s and man Will Smith is so smooth. Eiserman is on a whole mother level. His shot is better than Mathew’s. I can see him having a similar impact on the PP as Ovechkin

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Clinging to the word ‘if’ here is comical. If that’s the hill you’re gonna plant your flag on then you may as well have said “IF the Ducks win the lottery then there’s a 100% chance they’ll get to pick first overall.”

I don't think you comprehend conditionals nor odds.

If the Ducks win the lottery, then they own the first overall pick. There isn't a query about it being a 100% chance since the condition has been met. Therein lies your red herring.

When I shared my thoughts, I used the conditional "if" informing the reader that nothing is set despite seeing some patterns unfold, some of which can be attributed to newer lottery regulations implemented. It isn't my fault the reader took it upon himself to "ass"ume a conditional means a definitive outcome regardless if the conditional was met.

Thank you for kindly injecting yourself into my burrito to Dr. Fever's taco conversation and taco knighting, but it simply is nachos.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

Anybody that would talk about patterns while discussing odds either doesn't understand math or just likes to hear himself talk. Or maybe both.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Anybody that would talk about patterns while discussing odds either doesn't understand math or just likes to hear himself talk. Or maybe both.

Odds are specific events and those specific events create a likely pattern, which is known as a probability. There's a whole course dedicated to it at most colleges and universities called probability/statistics.

1:1 odds imply a 50% chance of a winning pattern.
1:3 odds imply a 33.3% chance of a winning pattern.
1:4 odds imply a 25% chance of a winning pattern.

Those are most likeliest cases, but it isn't definitive that those outcomes come true. Hence, it's why it's called a probability.

Card counting isn't allowed in casinos. That's where a person(s) amazing with math and memorization finds the patterns in a sample set (what was dealt and what wasn't dealt), putting the odds of winning higher in their favor.

 

[Dr Johnny Fever]

I guess it’s both.

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Depending who drafts Bedard you could put together one of the smallest/softest skill lines ever.

Bedard/Zegras/Terry

Gaudreau/Johnson/Bedard

Bedard/Bordeleau/Eklund

 

[Hamilton Bulldogs]

Depending who drafts Bedard you could put together one of the smallest/softest skill lines ever.

Bedard/Zegras/Terry

Gaudreau/Johnson/Bedard

Bedard/Bordeleau/Eklund

I feel like Bedard and McTavish would be the line you go with, considering their success at the world jrs

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I feel like Bedard and McTavish would be the line you go with, considering their success at the world jrs

Better chemistry for two lines and spreads the offense:

Line 1: xxx - Z - Terry
Line 2: xxx - McTavish - Bedard

 

[LiveLaughDucks]

I don't think you comprehend conditionals nor odds.

If the Ducks win the lottery, then they own the first overall pick. There isn't a query about it being a 100% chance since the condition has been met. Therein lies your red herring.

When I shared my thoughts, I used the conditional "if" informing the reader that nothing is set despite seeing some patterns unfold, some of which can be attributed to newer lottery regulations implemented. It isn't my fault the reader took it upon himself to "ass"ume a conditional means a definitive outcome regardless if the conditional was met.

Thank you for kindly injecting yourself into my burrito to Dr. Fever's taco conversation and taco knighting, but it simply is nachos.

Mental gymnastics. I comprehend odds. Past patterns have zero effect on this years isolated 2023 Draft. Using the word “if” as a magic get out of jail free card doesn’t change that.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

Odds are specific events and those specific events create a likely pattern, which is known as a probability. There's a whole course dedicated to it at most colleges and universities called probability/statistics.

1:1 odds imply a 50% chance of a winning pattern.
1:3 odds imply a 33.3% chance of a winning pattern.
1:4 odds imply a 25% chance of a winning pattern.

Those are most likeliest cases, but it isn't definitive that those outcomes come true. Hence, it's why it's called a probability.

Card counting isn't allowed in casinos. That's where a person(s) amazing with math and memorization finds the patterns in a sample set (what was dealt and what wasn't dealt), putting the odds of winning higher in their favor.

Card counting requires a set sample without replacement, making the cards dependent variables and allowing probability to give a player an edge.

Draft years are independent variables. Putting the new “2 1OA in 5 years max” restriction aside for a moment, winning 10 in a row (.00012% of that happening) wouldn’t make you any more or less likely to win an 11th

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I think the Ducks deserve the first #1 overall pick in franchise history

Id be happy with 1-3 tbh

and i woudnt exactly be mad/disappointed at 4-6.... which weve essentially clinched at this point. So in my book i think it was a good year for us... assuming we dont go wildly off the board with a 5/6 pick.

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

Id be happy with 1-3 tbh

and i woudnt exactly be mad/disappointed at 4-6.... which weve essentially clinched at this point. So in my book i think it was a good year for us... assuming we dont go wildly off the board with a 5/6 pick.

This is the tank thread, don’t be wavering

Anything less than 1OA we burn this place to the ground

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

This is the tank thread, don’t be wavering

Anything less than 1OA we burn this place to the ground

This is the draft thread lol

 

[DuckDuckGetz]

This is the draft thread lol

 

[Beckett]

I'll be dissapointed with anyone other than Bedard, Carlsson, Fantilli, or Smith, in that order.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

I'll be dissapointed with anyone other than Bedard, Carlsson, Fantilli, or Smith, in that order.

Not on the Michkov train?

 

[Beckett]

Not on the Michkov train?

The 3 year KHL contract and uncertainty with Russia makes him too risky to take over them. I'd probably take Michkov 5th. I'm also hoping they can get elite skill with size down the middle with this pick. My views of the guys....

Carlsson has crazy offensive IQ and hands, average skater but great for his frame at his age. He's going to be a 1st line beast IMO. Wish we could see more of his center game but I'm confident he'd be solid in all zones there. Smoother more heady game than Fantilli.

Fantilli impacts the game in every zone with his motor and physical game, kinda reminds me of a bigger kesler, with less of a shot and more dangles. Not a super high IQ player with the puck though. I could see him making more of an impact than Bedard in the NHL next season

Smith's crazy tools, offensive IQ along with good size and confidence makes him a possible franchise centerman. He needs to quicken up his feet a little and play harder in his zone but the potential for a franchise C is there.

 

[MMC]

How would you guys rank Zegras, McTavish, and Smith?

 

[DavidBL]

How would you guys rank Zegras, McTavish, and Smith?

1. McTavish
2. Zegras
3. Smith

 

[Hockey Duckie]

How would you guys rank Zegras, McTavish, and Smith?

In their respective Pre-Draft seasons
- McTavish
- Smith
- Zegras

I've said often that Smith is a less flashy Zegras, but comparing their D+0 season, Smith has a higher upside scoring and scoring goals. Just how much is Smith being undersold when playing in the shadow of the quintessential quartet of Bedard, Carlsson, Fantilli, and Michkov (by alphabetical order, not talent order).

As they are today
- Zegras
- McTavish
- Smith

Z's endurance for the past three seasons in the NHL has been impressive. In his 24-NHL game stint for his D+1 season, Z looked better as the season went, especially when returning as a center. In that same season, Drysdale's effectiveness stopped after four games into the 24-NHL game stint. There is a caveat for that difference, Drysdale was only 18 years old and Z was 19 years old. Drysdale didn't look lost the following season, playing 81 NHL games.

McTavish hit a rookie wall around game 50 as a 19-year old this year, all in the NHL. Zegras' 19-year old season, he played 24 NHL games and 20 AHL games (17 reg, 3 playoffs) for a total of 44 pro games. It's a bit difficult to compare because McTavish had to play all his games at the NHL level.

 

[Rasp]

Pre draft I have them
Smith
Zegras
McTavish

Smith predraft is sitting at 2ppg while Zegras was buried on a stacked team and McTavish was under the radar in Switzerland.

Post draft I would keep it the same but its very close. Smith just on top because he is all potential which is elite 1C territory.

 

[Gliff]

Smith would have competed for 2nd overall in Zegras’ draft year. It’s him ainec.

 

[mighty Stanley Duck]

I'll be dissapointed with anyone other than Bedard, Carlsson, Fantilli, or Smith, in that order.

Well how it looks we will probably pick one of them...
I prefer winger before center, so I agree with your list.