Prospect Info: 2023 NHL Draft (mod warning 1st post)

[Anaheim4ever]

Yeah i know its early but 2022 draft discussion started pretty quickly too last year.
So far its #1 Bedard and #2 Mitchkov but after that what are players you are interested in for the Ducks ?
I don't see Bedard falling like Wright did at all. Who will be this years Slaf and Cooley ?

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[Hockey Duckie]

Russia barred from all hockey worlds in 2023-24

Russia and Belarus teams have been excluded by the International Ice Hockey Federation from all its world championships next season.

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[mighty Stanley Duck]

Sharks current form is connected with Karlssons output, last 8 games 6 pts.
Even he quit which seems odd considering he is so close scoring 100 pts.

 

[Gliff]

Sharks current form is connected with Karlssons output, last 8 games 6 pts.
Even he quit which seems odd considering he is so close scoring 100 pts.

He was playing to get traded. Can’t blame the guy. He has won everything but a cup.

 

[Gliff]

If the Ducks fall to 5 and draft Will Smith I hope they trade up and grab Perreault.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Here's a couple of recent mock drafts from the top mock draft sites, MyNHLdraft and Tankathon.

I would be okay with that result.

 

[TopShelfWaterBottle]

I guess

 

[Kalv]

Just did a sim and Washington got #1 and Canadiens #2

PS
Now did the lotto 10 times and 2 times got #1 and 2 times #2 which is twice our odds. Now if we don't luck out in the top 2 it might be because of me using our luck in these pointless simulations

 

[Masch78]

As long as we pick top 5 we get a hell of a prospect. I'd even put Sale in the mix as well.

 

[Smirnov2Chistov]

I’ll keep my opinions open if someone can persuade me, but I’ll still hold my line of thought:

We need a top-4 pick, anything not of the Bedard, Fantilli, Michkov, or Carlsson tier is disappointing to me. The talent quality seems to drop off dramatically after them

 

[Kalv]

I’ll keep my opinions open if someone can persuade me, but I’ll still hold my line of thought:

We need a top-4 pick, anything not of the Bedard, Fantilli, Michkov, or Carlsson tier is disappointing to me. The talent quality seems to drop off dramatically after them

I have a similar train of thought but I think Smith and Benson are fantastic talents, it's just I'm worried that their lack of size is not enough to move the needle when added to our roster.

I'd still gladly take them and see how things play out tho.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I’ll keep my opinions open if someone can persuade me, but I’ll still hold my line of thought:

We need a top-4 pick, anything not of the Bedard, Fantilli, Michkov, or Carlsson tier is disappointing to me. The talent quality seems to drop off dramatically after them

Assuming we take michkov in top 4…. If we end up 4th and michkov is there and we don’t want to draft him I’d be interested in trading down (6-10 range) for extra assets, I got to imagine a team that wants michkov will pay up, as he is close to bedard level talent.

Obviously I’d rather just take michkov, but I think that depends on management/owners

 

[Gliff]

Assuming we take michkov in top 4…. If we end up 4th and michkov is there and we don’t want to draft him I’d be interested in trading down (6-10 range) for extra assets, I got to imagine a team that wants michkov will pay up, as he is close to bedard level talent.

Obviously I’d rather just take michkov, but I think that depends on management/owners

I wouldn't count on it. Teams dont trade down in the top 5 ever.

 

[darkwingduck]

I'd assume Michkov probably drops a bit to like 8+. Insanely good draft value that would equal the risk he never comes to NA.

 

[Hockey Duckie]

I’ll keep my opinions open if someone can persuade me, but I’ll still hold my line of thought:

We need a top-4 pick, anything not of the Bedard, Fantilli, Michkov, or Carlsson tier is disappointing to me. The talent quality seems to drop off dramatically after them

I could have sworn I've shared the comps before that included Leo Carlsson, Will Smith, and Zach Benson. I"m too lazy to hunt for it and I made an excel so it's easier to find.

Draft	Comp	2022	vs	2023
Season	Draft Year	Drafted	Player	Team	Games	G	A	Pts	PPG		Plus/Minus
D+0	2022	3rd OA	Cooley	USHL	24	13	23	36	1.50		19
				USDP	51	27	48	75	1.47		38
D+0	2023	n/a	Smith	USHL	17	12	26	38	2.24		19
				USDP	49	39	61	100	2.04		57
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D+0	2022	4th OA	Wright	Kingston	63	32	62	94	1.49		23
D+0	2023	n/a	Benson	Winnipeg	60	36	62	98	1.63		68

LW Slaf went 1st overall (OA) because the Habs gambled on his production at the Olympics, where he had 7 goals in seven games. Slaf's Liiga numbers were okay, but not great as he produced 10 points in 31 Liiga games.

D Nemec went 2nd overall.
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Will Smith is being underrated because of the top-4 being an extra tier higher. Put Smith in the 2022 draft and he might be 1st overall.

Benson produced better than Wright in their draft year. He's a waterbug that needs to put on more mass.

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Because we passed up on potential top-6 forwards (Snuggerud and Kulich) for a sure-fire NHL 3C in last year's draft and the fact Tracey & Perreault have struggled this past season, any of the top-6 forwards in this 2023 class will automatically be our best forward prospect as well as could be our best overall prospect. We hit jackpot in the 2019 and 2021 draft with C Zegras and C McTavish as they're both in the NHL with very bright futures. We hit a late jackpot with Terry and his high scoring has been consistent for the past two seasons. Anaheim is adding icing on the ice cream with this potential top-6 pick.

What will determine how fast the Ducks turn the ship around is dependent on our blueline prospects. Thank goodness we have a lot of darts already collected and are waiting to be thrown at the NHL board.

 

[Gliff]

I'd assume Michkov probably drops a bit to like 8+. Insanely good draft value that would equal the risk he never comes to NA.

No chance he makes it that far. I would be shocked if he makes it past 4. No way Chicago or SJ pass on him. I guess there is a chance if Columbus and Anaheim select 3 and 4 since they may have less interest being further along in the rebuild. Even if that happens though, no way he makes it to 8 or further.

I’ll keep my opinions open if someone can persuade me, but I’ll still hold my line of thought:

We need a top-4 pick, anything not of the Bedard, Fantilli, Michkov, or Carlsson tier is disappointing to me. The talent quality seems to drop off dramatically after them

I think there is a strong argument that both Smith and Benson would have gone 1/2 in the past 2 drafts.

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

I wouldn't count on it. Teams dont trade down in the top 5 ever.

Well I wouldn’t say I’m counting on it, but I feel like if you can stay in top 10 and add an asset or 2, might be worth considering

 

[WhatTheDuck]

New ranking from Button

Craig's List: Adam Fantilli, Leo Carlsson jostle for 2nd behind Connor Bedard in NHL Draft ranking | TSN

Regina Pats centre Connor Bedard is the runaway favourite to be selected No. 1 overall in June, but the No. 2 spot is open for discussion according to TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button.

www.tsn.ca

 

[Anaheim4ever]

Assuming we take michkov in top 4…. If we end up 4th and michkov is there and we don’t want to draft him I’d be interested in trading down (6-10 range) for extra assets, I got to imagine a team that wants michkov will pay up, as he is close to bedard level talent.

Obviously I’d rather just take michkov, but I think that depends on management/owners

Capitals would want Michkov badly imo.

 

[tomd]

New ranking from Button

Craig's List: Adam Fantilli, Leo Carlsson jostle for 2nd behind Connor Bedard in NHL Draft ranking | TSN

Regina Pats centre Connor Bedard is the runaway favourite to be selected No. 1 overall in June, but the No. 2 spot is open for discussion according to TSN Director of Scouting Craig Button.

www.tsn.ca

Button loved Sale at the last U-18 and he did look spectacular in that tournament. I wouldn't be surprised if many teams had him ranked as high as 4 or 5. I'd have him equal to Smith at 5 and ahead of Benson.

 

[CrazyDuck4u]

Im liking that Michkov kid..

 

[Hockey Duckie]

Button loved Sale at the last U-18 and he did look spectacular in that tournament. I wouldn't be surprised if many teams had him ranked as high as 4 or 5. I'd have him equal to Smith at 5 and ahead of Benson.

Sale reminds me a lot of Slaf. Both didn't explode in their respective men's league, but it's their international play (playing against is age peers instead of men) is what is garner them a lot of attention. You're banking on their future development as they become men in a few years.

I still like Smith over Sale b/c Smith reminds me of a non-flashy Zegras.

 

[tomd]

Sale reminds me a lot of Slaf. Both didn't explode in their respective men's league, but it's their international play (playing against is age peers instead of men) is what is garner them a lot of attention. You're banking on their future development as they become men in a few years.

I still like Smith over Sale b/c Smith reminds me of a non-flashy Zegras.

Fair enough. I don't think a team can go wrong with either one. Very hard to compare players when one is playing against boys and the other is playing against men. Just as long as PV doesn't draft another obvious 4th liner I'll be happy.

 

[Beckett]

We're gonna end up with Barlow arent we

 

[Zegs2sendhelp]

Fair enough. I don't think a team can go wrong with either one. Very hard to compare players when one is playing against boys and the other is playing against men. Just as long as PV doesn't draft another obvious 4th liner I'll be happy.

Unless we go way off the board with a pick, I imagine we’ll end up getting a top 6 player.

 

[Rasp]

We're gonna end up with Barlow arent we

I dont think Barlow is the right fit for the team. I bet we take Smith and Sale over him.