Prospect Info: 2023 Draft Thread (Yotes picking #6 & #12)

[Grimes]

My desire to take the risk on Michkov skyrocketed now that Bedard is in the division.

 

[Magonus1703]

Did Craig Morgan mention earlier that Coyotes wouldn't think about drafting Michkov before their second pick? I wonder if that is still the case. Anyway I'm really happy that Ottawa didn't win the lottery. That was my biggest fear going into the lottery.

 

[RedBeard]

Really puts things into perspective when you see the sheer volume of possible quality picks we have and compare it to what BA continues to vocalize to the media about stacking players to build depth. Sure we likely won't use all of our picks upcoming to select players but it is crazy when you actually see just our first and second round picks over a 5-6 year period. 50% hit rate on this return still looks great.

2021 1st 9th - Guenther

2021 2nd 37th - Doan

2021 2nd 43rd - Fedotov

2021 2nd 60th - Moser

2022 1st 3rd - Cooley

2022 1st 11th - Geekie

2022 1st 29th - Lamoureux

2022 2nd 36th - Duda

2022 2nd 43rd - Lutz

2023 1st AZ 6th - Michkov?

2023 1st OTT 12th - Wood?

2023 2nd AZ 38th - Strbak?

2024 1st AZ - Levshunov?

2024 2nd AZ

2024 2nd MTL

2024 2nd WSH

2024 2nd FLA

2025 1st AZ

2025 2nd AZ

2025 2nd TOR

2025 2nd NYR

2025 2nd EDM

2026 1st AZ

2026 2nd AZ

2026 2nd OTT

2026 2nd NYR

 

[Freddy Sjostrom]

6. Reinbacher 12. Gabe Perrault

6. Reinbacher 12. Matthew Wood

 

[Antiillafire]

1.Bedard

2.Fantilli

3.Benson
4.Carlsson
5.Michkov
6.Smith
7.Dvorsky

8.Danielson
9.Reinbacher
10.Barlow
11.Leonard
12.Honzek

13.Yager
14.Moore
15.Wood
16.Ritchie


I want Benson. But I think we’ll pass on him.

I’m hoping for Dvorsky as a more realistic option. I think we could all universally get behind a Dvorsky pick. Feels kinda perfect. A very safe, very pro ready center. Allows us to do really whatever we want with 12th, no matter how crazy.

Honzek is an interesting case, seems like NHL execs and staff are much higher on him than most non affiliated rankings/lists. Pronman mentioned in the Athletic mock draft tonight that several scouts of various teams view him as a candidate more likely to go top 10 then closer to 20. Yzerman and a bunch of other Red Wings brass were at his final 2 playoff games in Vancouver, and Washington’s GM ha gone to see him in person quite a few times. Would be interesting to see what his numbers looked like in the W if you swapped him and Benson.

 

[Antonche]

6. Reinbacher 12. Gabe Perrault

6. Reinbacher 12. Matthew Wood

Variant with Wood is better.

 

[rt]

The “consensus” top 5 is…

1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Smith
4. Carlsson
5. Michkov

Fantilli was no lower than 3rd on any ballot. But all of Smith, Carlsson, and Michkov got at least one 2nd place vote. That’s a full tier.

Could any of those 5 be unseated? I think the most likely off the board pick is Dvorsky to Montreal at 5th. There are rumors from the same sources that knew they didn’t like Wright and would go with Slafkovsky. I could see that. So that would mean Michkov falls to us, right? Well, what if he’s not there at 5th?

Let’s say that Chicago takes Bedard, Anaheim takes Fantilli and then Columbus does a somewhat but not altogether surprising thing and takes Michkov. It’s totally plausible. So then San Jose picks between Carlsson and Smith. They’ve picked a lot of Swedes but Grier is a BU hockey guy, through and through. Smith was the consensus 3rd overall on Bob’s list. Maybe the Sharks take Smith?

Does Montreal still take Dvorsky over Carlsson? Maybe. It could happen.

Leo Carlsson would be a very big get at 6th overall.

 

[rt]

Honzek is an interesting case, seems like NHL execs and staff are much higher on him than most non affiliated rankings/lists. Pronman mentioned in the Athletic mock draft tonight that several scouts of various teams view him as a candidate more likely to go top 10 then closer to 20. Yzerman and a bunch of other Red Wings brass were at his final 2 playoff games in Vancouver, and Washington’s GM ha gone to see him in person quite a few times. Would be interesting to see what his numbers looked like in the W if you swapped him and Benson.

I watched Honzek and Benson both quite a bit in the WHL this season. I like Honzek a lot. He’s nowhere near as talented as Benson. But I do Hinn Honzek is really underrated and I’d be very happy if we picked him 12th.

Give me Dvorsky at 6th, Honzek at 12th and Strbak at 38th and I’m a happy guy. Even if I’m not a Slovak.

6. Reinbacher 12. Gabe Perrault

6. Reinbacher 12. Matthew Wood

Reinbacher just doesn’t excite me. I like him. I like his game. But my favorite thing about him is the way he gaps up. That should not be the case at 6th overall in a very good draft. Haha.

My list currently has him ahead of Leonard but that’s my head talking, not my heart. Leonard is a lot more fun. And I like him a lot more. I’d be much more excited to pick Leonard. Even if we do need a big, mobile, RHD with top upside more than we need a 5’11-6’0 power forward.

 

[Vinny Boombatz]

I don't have a single Dmen in the top 12, too rich in forwards with crazy ability than Reinbacher who doesn't project to be a #1 Dman

 

[Llewzaher]

6. Reinbacher 12. Gabe Perrault

6. Reinbacher 12. Matthew Wood

Interesting , BA said you draft the vest player available , not by need, and you can always make a trade later if needed.

Whether he means it or not is another question , I have heard other GMs say that and then draft based on need.

 

[bwhsocal]

with the 6th take best fit C (or Michkov if available) and then trade #12 and a 3rd this year and 2nd next to trade into #8 w washington (if reinbacker is available), need elite D. use all these 2nd/3rds we have to move up.

 

[Jagged Ice]

Chicago- Bedard
Anaheim- Fantilli
CBJ- Carlsson
SJS- Michkov
Montreal- Dvorsky
Yotes- Smith
7 8 9 10 11
Yotes- Honzek

Michkov should go #3, but I don't think Columbus wants to wait for that KHL contract. Not sure if Montreal does either. Michkov goes to the Sharks or us. If he falls to us they'll hear my scream in Moscow.

 

[Antonche]

Chicago- Bedard
Anaheim- Fantilli
CBJ- Carlsson
SJS- Michkov
Montreal- Dvorski
Yotes- Smith
7 8 9 10 11
Yotes- Honzek

Michkov should go #3, but I don't think Columbus wants to wait for that KHL contract. Not sure if Montreal does either. Michkov goes to the Sharks or us. If he falls to us they'll hear my scream in Moscow.

No chance Smith will available at our pick

 

[rt]

With BA’s comments about the U18s, I wonder if we’re taking Leonard 6th and Stenberg 12th

 

[Jagged Ice]

No chance Smith will available at our pick

Normally I would agree but I've heard several times today on different sites that Montreal really likes Dvorsky. Doesn't mean they're taking him but if they do he has to fall to us.
You think he goes to Montreal or Michkov slips?

With BA’s comments about the U18s, I wonder if we’re taking Leonard 6th and Stenberg 12th

I love Leonard but at #6? I don't know if I like Stenberg at #12 either.

 

[rt]

Normally I would agree but I've heard several times today on different sites that Montreal really likes Dvorski. Doesn't mean theyre taking him but if they do he has to fall to us.
You think he goes to Montreal or Michkov slips?


I love Leonard but at #6? I don't know if I like Stenberg at #12 either.

His comments, when I listened to them again, really strike me as meaning Leonard and Dvorsky.

Leonard’s production this year I think makes him a reasonable candidate for a team at 6th overall.

 

[SlafySZN]

The “consensus” top 5 is…

1. Bedard
2. Fantilli
3. Smith
4. Carlsson
5. Michkov

Fantilli was no lower than 3rd on any ballot. But all of Smith, Carlsson, and Michkov got at least one 2nd place vote. That’s a full tier.

Could any of those 5 be unseated? I think the most likely off the board pick is Dvorsky to Montreal at 5th. There are rumors from the same sources that knew they didn’t like Wright and would go with Slafkovsky. I could see that. So that would mean Michkov falls to us, right? Well, what if he’s not there at 5th?

Let’s say that Chicago takes Bedard, Anaheim takes Fantilli and then Columbus does a somewhat but not altogether surprising thing and takes Michkov. It’s totally plausible. So then San Jose picks between Carlsson and Smith. They’ve picked a lot of Swedes but Grier is a BU hockey guy, through and through. Smith was the consensus 3rd overall on Bob’s list. Maybe the Sharks take Smith?

Does Montreal still take Dvorsky over Carlsson? Maybe. It could happen.

Leo Carlsson would be a very big get at 6th overall.

Don’t see the habs taking Dvorsky. We already have Suzuki and Dach who are mostly better than him and who could do the same work.

What is the source?

Smith available there’s absolutely no way habs take Dvorsky. Habs GM is probably who knows Smith best.

 

[rt]

His comments, when I listened to them again, really strike me as meaning Leonard and Dvorsky.

Leonard’s production this year I think makes him a reasonable candidate for a team at 6th overall.

Leonard’s 51 goals puts him at 10th all-time in single season goal scoring in the history of the NTDP. His 94pts puts him 12th all-time in single season points at the program.

Let’s look at draft years:

Ryan Leonard: 57gp 51g 94pts

(3rd, ‘22) Cooley: 51gp 27g, 75pts
(5th, 22) Gauthier: 54gp, 34g, 65pts
(13th, ‘22) Nazar: 56gp, 28g, 70pts
(14th,22)McGroarty: 54gp, 35g, 69p
(23rd,22)Snuggerud: 59gp, 24g, 63p

 

[rt]

Don’t see the habs taking Dvorsky. We already have Suzuki and Dach who are mostly better than him and who could do the same work.

What is the source?

Smith available there’s absolutely no way habs take Dvorsky. Habs GM is probably who knows Smith best.

Same old coot who did hours of videos on why Wright sucks and Habs will take Slafkovsky. He was on that for weeks and weeks. Same this time around with Smith sucks and they want Dvorsky. Maybe he’s a broken clock. Maybe he’s connected. I don’t know.

 

[rt]

Leonard’s 51 goals puts him at 10th all-time in single season goal scoring in the history of the NTDP. His 94pts puts him 12th all-time in single season points at the program.

Let’s look at draft years:

Ryan Leonard: 57gp 51g 94pts

(3rd, ‘22) Cooley: 51gp 27g, 75pts
(5th, 22) Gauthier: 54gp, 34g, 65pts
(13th, ‘22) Nazar: 56gp, 28g, 70pts
(14th,22)McGroarty: 54gp, 35g, 69p
(23rd,22)Snuggerud: 59gp, 24g, 63p

Also worth noting the McKenzie poll had Dvorsky 6th and Leonard 7th.

I believe these two are BA’s targets.

 

[SlafySZN]

Same old coot who did hours of videos on why Wright sucks and Habs will take Slafkovsky. He was on that for weeks and weeks. Same this time around with Smith sucks and they want Dvorsky. Maybe he’s a broken clock. Maybe he’s connected. I don’t know.

Oh Grant Mccagg? He’s not a reliable source on the habs specifically but he still has contacts in the scouting business, he has friends who gives him their thoughts on players and who the majority of scouts mostly like so he knew scouts weren’t high on Wright anymore.

Also I don’t think i’ve seen him say the habs liked Dvorsky. I just saw him sharing that he himself, likes him a lot, though.

 

[rt]

Oh Grant Mccagg? He’s not a reliable source.

I don’t think i’ve seen him say the habs liked Dvorsky. He himself likes him a lot, though.

He’s extraordinarily irritating. But he was spot on last year. And way ahead of everyone else.

 

[MayDayMayDay]

My desire to take the risk on Michkov skyrocketed now that Bedard is in the division.

Absolutely. If Michkov falls to us at 6, we HAVE to take him.

 

[SlafySZN]

He’s extraordinarily irritating. But he was spot on last year. And way ahead of everyone else.

Yeah, he knew majority of scouts soured on Wright before it really was discussed publicly. Tried to tell people but most didn’t want to listen so he started to go way too hard on the Wright ‘’bashing’’ to prove his point.

For Dvorsky it’s his personal favorite player, he didn’t try to link the habs to him.

 

[rt]

Yeah, he knew majority of scouts soured on Wright before it really was discussed publicly but he doesn’t have any info about the habs, no one did until the end, his gut feeling was right though.

I also don’t like him. I also think there’s a good chance it was a broken clock scenario. But I’m not going to be so dismissive as that, after the guy battled all of Hab fandom online and then got to do a victory lap. I wish it happened to a better guy. But it was this guy who nailed it. And he’s got my attention.