2023 Draft Discussion

[Rzombo4 prez]

I just think it’s lofty to expect everyone to go the Seider route.

There have been other guys from pro leagues with good tools that didn’t hit like Seider (Rundblad, Erixon, etc)

I get a little worried he’s going to get overdrafted like Kotkaniemi because he’s the best option there is at his position.

Ultimately I trust our European scouts a lot at this point though, so if they say he is BPA and he’s there for us, go ahead and send it. For me there are probably 10-12 forwards I like better and would pick before him.

I think there is also a lot of "we need right-handed defensemen" going on. I personally don't expect us to draft more than half of the defensemen that we actually ice so I too won't be crushed if we pass on him for offensive help. He could turn out to be a really solid player, but I don't see him on the same level as Seider or Edvinsson.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I think there is also a lot of "we need right-handed defensemen" going on. I personally don't expect us to draft more than half of the defensemen that we actually ice so I too won't be crushed if we pass on him for offensive help. He could turn out to be a really solid player, but I don't see him on the same level as Seider or Edvinsson.

I would draft the RHD position in the 2nd round and beyond.

 

[Reddwit]

I would draft the RHD position in the 2nd round and beyond.

I’m hoping for Brustewicz with one of our 2nds. Feel like he’d be a really steady partner for Ed. Dragicevic is an interesting option there too.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I’m hoping for Brustewicz with one of our 2nds. Feel like he’d be a really steady partner for Ed. Dragicevic is an interesting option there too.

Dravicevic doesn't play defense well enough for me to want Detroit to draft him.

Brustewicz doesn't seem bad, but he's kinda "eh" to me.

 

[Frk It]

I think there is also a lot of "we need right-handed defensemen" going on. I personally don't expect us to draft more than half of the defensemen that we actually ice so I too won't be crushed if we pass on him for offensive help. He could turn out to be a really solid player, but I don't see him on the same level as Seider or Edvinsson.

I wish they would do free agency before the draft like they do in the NFL.

I would draft the RHD position in the 2nd round and beyond.

I like a few of the OHL kids - Akey, Allen, Bonk, Brzustewicz, Mania. Minnetian is interesting from the USDP. McCarthy is intriguing from the USHL.

Wonder if we might look at an overager like Eric Pohlkamp or Sam Court.

Dravicevic doesn't play defense well enough for me to want Detroit to draft him.

Brustewicz doesn't seem bad, but he's kinda "eh" to me.

I like Dragicevic but would understand if our scouts didn’t. I also think he will go in the first round.

Who do you think is going to go in round 2 or 3 that is substantially better than Brzustewicz? I’d say he’s a good option for that range.

 

[Reddwit]

Dravicevic doesn't play defense well enough for me to want Detroit to draft him.

Brustewicz doesn't seem bad, but he's kinda "eh" to me.

Brustewicz seems “meh” cause he doesn’t have any standout skills but he’s steady across the board. Thinks the game at a high level.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Brustewicz seems “meh” cause he doesn’t have any standout skills but he’s steady across the board. Thinks the game at a high level.

Steady across the board in the CHL(league) is a death sentence.

 

[Reddwit]

Steady across the board in the CHL(league) is a death sentence.

Not at all for defenseman.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Not at all for defenseman.

I agree. But I will say, most that fit that profile bust

 

[Frk It]

Curious to hear who all these defenseman are going in round 2-3 that have high end standout skills.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I wish they would do free agency before the draft like they do in the NFL.

I like a few of the OHL kids - Akey, Allen, Bonk, Brzustewicz, Mania. Minnetian is interesting from the USDP. McCarthy is intriguing from the USHL.

Wonder if we might look at an overager like Eric Pohlkamp or Sam Court.

I like Dragicevic but would understand if our scouts didn’t. I also think he will go in the first round.

Who do you think is going to go in round 2 or 3 that is substantially better than Brzustewicz? I’d say he’s a good option for that range.

From a ranking/drafting

Curious to hear who all these defenseman are going in round 2-3 that have high end standout skills.

Not a lot of them. 2-3 picks, go for em.


I don't see a top 4 RHD as a lock in this draft

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I wish they would do free agency before the draft like they do in the NFL.

I like a few of the OHL kids - Akey, Allen, Bonk, Brzustewicz, Mania. Minnetian is interesting from the USDP. McCarthy is intriguing from the USHL.

Wonder if we might look at an overager like Eric Pohlkamp or Sam Court.

I like Dragicevic but would understand if our scouts didn’t. I also think he will go in the first round.

Who do you think is going to go in round 2 or 3 that is substantially better than Brzustewicz? I’d say he’s a good option for that range.

Gibson

 

[lilidk]

Curious to hear who all these defenseman are going in round 2-3 that have high end standout skills.

Just find for me big smart , physical, stay home defenseman

 

[Frk It]

From a ranking/drafting


Not a lot of them. 2-3 picks, go for em.


I don't see a top 4 RHD as a lock in this draft

I kind of get where you are coming from, but I would be fine taking an "all around defenseman" like Brzustewicz or Bonk with one of our 2nd rounders. Especially if we have drafted two forwards with our first rounders. We could use a 2 way or responsible guy on the right side.

I don’t even see a standout skill with Sandin Pelikka, and people talk about him going pretty high. Just not the best defenseman draft we’ve seen. Would still grab a few with the amount of picks we have.

Gibson

Is his stand-out trait his size? Or is there more there?

 

[Holden Caufield]

I really like Brzustewicz. Look forward to seeing more of him in this upcoming series vs London.

I have him solidly ahead of Bonk. But will be interesting to see them against each other in the series.

I think Matt Mania is underrated and would be a good second round pick for us. Will probably start to rise during the draft process.

Willander, Akey and Dvorak are other defenseman that I hope are consider with all the 2nd rounders.

 

[OgeeOgelthorpe]

I think there is also a lot of "we need right-handed defensemen" going on. I personally don't expect us to draft more than half of the defensemen that we actually ice so I too won't be crushed if we pass on him for offensive help. He could turn out to be a really solid player, but I don't see him on the same level as Seider or Edvinsson.

I don't think anyone, even Detroit, saw Seider at Seider's level until his D+2 in Sweden.

At this stage I think what Reinbacher is doing in the NL is having a better season in a men's pro league than Seider and Edvinsson did in their draft years. The NL is pretty strong this year on top of that. And yeah, I do like him a little more this year due to the need for a RD currently, but I was also a big fan of his while we still had Hronek playing well with Maata.

I'm not saying that Reinbacher is better than Seider or will be, but there is definitely high upside with this pick. If Kasper is a Steve Yzerman player created in a lab (as quoted by Max Bultman) then so is Reinbacher. High compete, great skating, team first with a very good IQ. I've seen about 10 or 12 games of his this year and it's criminal how underrated he is by some media outlets.

It would be amazing if Detroit can get a point per game player out of the first, and I wouldn't be upset if whoever we picked became that type of scorer we need next to Larkin, but short of the big 4 in this draft I don't know who else could be that kind of player. Drafting Reinbacher gives Detroit an option to have the potential for 2 1st pair quality defensive pairings if everything goes right.

Edvinsson-Seider
Wallinder-Reinbacher

If all breaks mostly right with these kids that is a formidable D that skates better than just about anyone in the league short of a D pair of 2 Hughes brothers.

 

[WingsToPick4th]

I don't think anyone, even Detroit, saw Seider at Seider's level until his D+2 in Sweden.

At this stage I think what Reinbacher is doing in the NL is having a better season in a men's pro league than Seider and Edvinsson did in their draft years. The NL is pretty strong this year on top of that. And yeah, I do like him a little more this year due to the need for a RD currently, but I was also a big fan of his while we still had Hronek playing well with Maata.

I'm not saying that Reinbacher is better than Seider or will be, but there is definitely high upside with this pick. If Kasper is a Steve Yzerman player created in a lab (as quoted by Max Bultman) then so is Reinbacher. High compete, great skating, team first with a very good IQ. I've seen about 10 or 12 games of his this year and it's criminal how underrated he is by some media outlets.

It would be amazing if Detroit can get a point per game player out of the first, and I wouldn't be upset if whoever we picked became that type of scorer we need next to Larkin, but short of the big 4 in this draft I don't know who else could be that kind of player. Drafting Reinbacher gives Detroit an option to have the potential for 2 1st pair quality defensive pairings if everything goes right.

Edvinsson-Seider
Wallinder-Reinbacher

If all breaks mostly right with these kids that is a formidable D that skates better than just about anyone in the league short of a D pair of 2 Hughes brothers.

as much as I agree with literally everything you've said and would love him with even our highest pick..... I highly doubt a physical RD stud gets past VAN or Arizona. But it could mean a stud forward/C prospect drops to us at 8/9 OA!

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I kind of get where you are coming from, but I would be fine taking an "all around defenseman" like Brzustewicz or Bonk with one of our 2nd rounders. Especially if we have drafted two forwards with our first rounders. We could use a 2 way or responsible guy on the right side.

I don’t even see a standout skill with Sandin Pelikka, and people talk about him going pretty high. Just not the best defenseman draft we’ve seen. Would still grab a few with the amount of picks we have.

Is his stand-out trait his size? Or is there more there?

Oh I would as well. Took Wallinder after Bonk was gone,(mock draft) and Brustewicz, I figured wasn't big enough for an Yzerman defenseman.

I think Gibson could be a top 4 guy. Size, mobility, he's physical, and mostly, plays defense. Good shot that he doesn't use all that well.

Rookie in the OHL, put up decent numbers in lower leagues

 

[Mister Ed]

Just find for me big smart , physical, stay home defenseman

Dmitri Simashev might be your guy.

 

[Mister Ed]

Michael Hrabal is an interesting goalie to watch in the 2nd-3rd rounds. 6'6'' goalie, plays with Omaha in the USHL. Has represented Czechia in the U18 (1.99 GAA and .933 SV%).

 

[lilidk]

Dmitri Simashev might be your guy.

Too bad he's not going to be available in a second round

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Too bad he's not going to be available in a second round

Probably won't be available with the Islander's pick.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

Michael Hrabal is an interesting goalie to watch in the 2nd-3rd rounds. 6'6'' goalie, plays with Omaha in the USHL. Has represented Czechia in the U18 (1.99 GAA and .933 SV%).

I'd be shocked if he's available around the #40 pick.

 

[lilidk]

I like to see we get forward with that pick

Probably won't be available with the Islander's pick.

 

[Voodoo Glow Skulls]

I like to see we get forward with that pick

Agreed.